Missing "From" entries in Newsgroup messages

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Syke wrote:
snip
Thanks for that, but I find this puzzling. I use Windows
Automatic Update and this is a copy of what I find when I check
my system on the Windows Update Site.


Windows XP Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express
for Windows XP (KB929123) 04 September 2008 Automatic Updates
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP with Windows Media
Format Runtime 9 (KB941569) 04 September 2008 Automatic Updates
Windows XP Security Update for Outlook Express for Windows
XP (KB951066) 04 September 2008 Automatic Updates
Windows Defender Definition Update for Windows Defender -
KB915597 (Definition 1.41.1074.0) 04 September 2008 Automatic
Updates Windows Windows Update Agent 7.2.6001.784 04
September 2008 Automatic Updates

What Bruce said (and congrats for enabling Automatic Updates).

You credit me with more guile than I could possibly be capable of!
I've had
Automatic Updates enabled since April 2007!!

Then something's been screwy for a quite some time. KB923123 was
released 12 June-*07* and KB941569 was released 11 Dec-*07*, yet
it's just been installed. Furthermore, KB951066 is also installed
(according to your headers): It was released on 12 Aug-08 and does
not appear in your list.

How is Automatic Updates configured now (e.g., Automatic; Download
but Notify; Notify Only)? Did you recently change this setting? See
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
--
~PA Bear

It's set to Notify Only. The only clue I can offer is that the system was
new in about April 2006, and had to be re-formatted and a clean install done
about a year ago. In an attempt to solve the original Font problem, I did a
System Restore (back to 31 August) but because that didn't help, I undid the
Restore. I'm certainly no expert, but I do regular Diskcheck,
De-fragmenting, Reg Pro Supreme and CCleaner about once a week, along with
weekly Virus checks (Steganos) and Spyware checks, (Spyware Doctor, Windows
Defender, Spybot and Advanced Windows Care, (Overkill, I know, but I'm a bit
nervous about infections!!) I'm a subscriber to Windows Secrets, and Langa
List before that, and don't download Windows Updates till they give them the
All Clear.

Sorry for the length of this,

Regards

Pat Macguire

Syke wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Syke wrote:
snip
Thanks for that, but I find this puzzling. I use Windows
Automatic Update and this is a copy of what I find when I check
my system on the Windows Update Site.


Windows XP Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express
for Windows XP (KB929123) 04 September 2008 Automatic Updates
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP with Windows Media
Format Runtime 9 (KB941569) 04 September 2008 Automatic Updates
Windows XP Security Update for Outlook Express for Windows
XP (KB951066) 04 September 2008 Automatic Updates
Windows Defender Definition Update for Windows Defender -
KB915597 (Definition 1.41.1074.0) 04 September 2008 Automatic
Updates Windows Windows Update Agent 7.2.6001.784 04
September 2008 Automatic Updates

What Bruce said (and congrats for enabling Automatic Updates).

You credit me with more guile than I could possibly be capable of!
I've had
Automatic Updates enabled since April 2007!!

Then something's been screwy for a quite some time. KB923123 was
released 12 June-*07* and KB941569 was released 11 Dec-*07*, yet
it's just been installed. Furthermore, KB951066 is also installed
(according to your headers): It was released on 12 Aug-08 and does
not appear in your list.

How is Automatic Updates configured now (e.g., Automatic; Download
but Notify; Notify Only)? Did you recently change this setting? See
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

It's set to Notify Only. The only clue I can offer is that the system was
new in about April 2006, and had to be re-formatted and a clean install
done
about a year ago. In an attempt to solve the original Font problem, I did
a
System Restore (back to 31 August) but because that didn't help, I undid
the
Restore. I'm certainly no expert, but I do regular Diskcheck,
De-fragmenting, Reg Pro Supreme and CCleaner about once a week, along with
weekly Virus checks (Steganos) and Spyware checks, (Spyware Doctor,
Windows
Defender, Spybot and Advanced Windows Care, (Overkill, I know, but I'm a
bit
nervous about infections!!) I'm a subscriber to Windows Secrets, and Langa
List before that, and don't download Windows Updates till they give them
the
All Clear.

...The only clue I can offer is that the system was
new in about April 2006, and had to be re-formatted and a clean install
done
about a year ago.

Then I suspect no updates whatsoever installed after the clean install until
Windows Update Agent 7.2.6001.784 was installed on 04 September (which
occurred automatically and independent of your AU settings; cf.
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...s-update.aspx).

Had you been aware of that updates weren't being installed, Resolution
Method 1 and/or Method 2 in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 would
have addressed the issue.

I encourage you to:

1. Check in at Windows Update now and install any remaining critical
security updates offered;

2. If you have MS Office installed and Microsoft Update is NOT your default
update source, either check-in at Office Update or change your default from
Windows Update to Microsoft Update (which will offer you updates for Office
and many Windows Live applications);

3. Be prepared for a new round of updates to be offered on 09 Sept-08 (cf.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms08-sep.mspx) and on
every successive Patch Tuesday in the future; and

4. Reconsider your policy of installing critical security updates only after
Windows Secrets mail list says it's OK to do so:

• The updates are rigorously tested prior to release and 99% of users
will not encounter any issues after installing them

• 99.999% of security updates are fully uninstallable;

• Your machine(s) remains vulnerable to wide-spread security exploits
(especially after the updates have been released) if the machine is in an
unpatched state; and

• MS offers no-charge support for every security update released.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Syke wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Syke wrote:
snip
Thanks for that, but I find this puzzling. I use Windows
Automatic Update and this is a copy of what I find when I
check my system on the Windows Update Site.


Windows XP Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express
for Windows XP (KB929123) 04 September 2008 Automatic Updates
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP with Windows
Media Format Runtime 9 (KB941569) 04 September 2008
Automatic Updates Windows XP Security Update for Outlook
Express for Windows
XP (KB951066) 04 September 2008 Automatic Updates
Windows Defender Definition Update for Windows Defender -
KB915597 (Definition 1.41.1074.0) 04 September 2008 Automatic
Updates Windows Windows Update Agent 7.2.6001.784 04
September 2008 Automatic Updates

What Bruce said (and congrats for enabling Automatic Updates).

You credit me with more guile than I could possibly be capable
of! I've had
Automatic Updates enabled since April 2007!!

Then something's been screwy for a quite some time. KB923123 was
released 12 June-*07* and KB941569 was released 11 Dec-*07*, yet
it's just been installed. Furthermore, KB951066 is also installed
(according to your headers): It was released on 12 Aug-08 and does
not appear in your list.

How is Automatic Updates configured now (e.g., Automatic; Download
but Notify; Notify Only)? Did you recently change this setting?
See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

It's set to Notify Only. The only clue I can offer is that the
system was new in about April 2006, and had to be re-formatted and
a clean install done
about a year ago. In an attempt to solve the original Font
problem, I did a
System Restore (back to 31 August) but because that didn't help, I
undid the
Restore. I'm certainly no expert, but I do regular Diskcheck,
De-fragmenting, Reg Pro Supreme and CCleaner about once a week,
along with weekly Virus checks (Steganos) and Spyware checks,
(Spyware Doctor, Windows
Defender, Spybot and Advanced Windows Care, (Overkill, I know, but
I'm a bit
nervous about infections!!) I'm a subscriber to Windows Secrets,
and Langa List before that, and don't download Windows Updates till
they give them the
All Clear.

...The only clue I can offer is that the system was
new in about April 2006, and had to be re-formatted and a clean
install done
about a year ago.

Then I suspect no updates whatsoever installed after the clean
install until Windows Update Agent 7.2.6001.784 was installed on 04
September (which occurred automatically and independent of your AU
settings; cf.
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...s-update.aspx).

Had you been aware of that updates weren't being installed,
Resolution Method 1 and/or Method 2 in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 would have addressed the
issue.

I encourage you to:

1. Check in at Windows Update now and install any remaining critical
security updates offered;

2. If you have MS Office installed and Microsoft Update is NOT your
default update source, either check-in at Office Update or change
your default from Windows Update to Microsoft Update (which will
offer you updates for Office and many Windows Live applications);

3. Be prepared for a new round of updates to be offered on 09
Sept-08 (cf.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms08-sep.mspx)
and on every successive Patch Tuesday in the future; and

4. Reconsider your policy of installing critical security updates
only after Windows Secrets mail list says it's OK to do so:

. The updates are rigorously tested prior to release and 99% of
users will not encounter any issues after installing them

. 99.999% of security updates are fully uninstallable;

. Your machine(s) remains vulnerable to wide-spread security
exploits (especially after the updates have been released) if the
machine is in an unpatched state; and

. MS offers no-charge support for every security update released.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Again, thanks for taking the time. I will follow your advice!!

Regards

Pat Macguire

Syke wrote:
snip
It's set to Notify Only. The only clue I can offer is that the
system was new in about April 2006, and had to be re-formatted and
a clean install done
about a year ago. In an attempt to solve the original Font
problem, I did a
System Restore (back to 31 August) but because that didn't help, I
undid the
Restore. I'm certainly no expert, but I do regular Diskcheck,
De-fragmenting, Reg Pro Supreme and CCleaner about once a week,
along with weekly Virus checks (Steganos) and Spyware checks,
(Spyware Doctor, Windows
Defender, Spybot and Advanced Windows Care, (Overkill, I know, but
I'm a bit
nervous about infections!!) I'm a subscriber to Windows Secrets,
and Langa List before that, and don't download Windows Updates till
they give them the
All Clear.

...The only clue I can offer is that the system was
new in about April 2006, and had to be re-formatted and a clean
install done
about a year ago.

Then I suspect no updates whatsoever installed after the clean
install until Windows Update Agent 7.2.6001.784 was installed on 04
September (which occurred automatically and independent of your AU
settings; cf.
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...s-update.aspx).

Had you been aware of that updates weren't being installed,
Resolution Method 1 and/or Method 2 in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 would have addressed the
issue.

I encourage you to:

1. Check in at Windows Update now and install any remaining critical
security updates offered;

2. If you have MS Office installed and Microsoft Update is NOT your
default update source, either check-in at Office Update or change
your default from Windows Update to Microsoft Update (which will
offer you updates for Office and many Windows Live applications);

3. Be prepared for a new round of updates to be offered on 09
Sept-08 (cf.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../ms08-sep.mspx)
and on every successive Patch Tuesday in the future; and

4. Reconsider your policy of installing critical security updates
only after Windows Secrets mail list says it's OK to do so:

. The updates are rigorously tested prior to release and 99% of
users will not encounter any issues after installing them

. 99.999% of security updates are fully uninstallable;

. Your machine(s) remains vulnerable to wide-spread security
exploits (especially after the updates have been released) if the
machine is in an unpatched state; and

. MS offers no-charge support for every security update released.

Again, thanks for taking the time. I will follow your advice!!

YW.