multi part emails

"saggman54" wrote in message
...
forwarded as plain text format... antivirus is uninstalled (no antivirus)
parts are received as 500KB but when I open each part they are listed as
373KB


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
What looks like is happening is that only the first message is getting
processed. Due to encoding overhead, the 501 KB message would have
about 373 KB of the attachment.

Something may be screwing up the message headers.

Are you sending in HTML or Plain Text format? If HTML, try plain text.
That simplifies the MIME structure.

Is your anti-virus set to scan e-mail or are you running any anti-spam?
Either of those can screw up the MIME headers. They would be more
likely to do so with an HTML message rather than plain text.

With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply tells the
program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the messages
and may still cause send/receive failures. What you may need to do is
uninstall the anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom
install option and unselect the e-mail scanning component for
installation.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
Just did another one... 2 parts 501KB and 220KB.... when combined =
373KB
?????


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
POP3 server, right now break apart size is set to 499KB although I
have had
it set to 999kb and work some of my earlier incoming mail may have
been
automatically recombine... (so fast I didn't see it) but emails I send
to
myself have always had to be combined and decoded manually (highlight
all
parts, right click, combine and decode) the example email came back 5
x
501KB plus 247KB or 2.752MB


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
What kind of server are these coming into? If a POP3 server, OE would
normally automatically do the combine and decode if they download in
the
correct order. For an IMAP or HTTP, I'm not sure, but the manual
combine and decode may be necessary.

If you don't already have it, add the SIZE column to your Sent Items
and
Inbox.

How big does OE say that the Sent message is? for a 2.05 MB file
attachment, the message should be around 2.85 MB due to encoding
overhead.

How big are each of the 6 incoming parts? The first 5 should be about
the break apart size that you specified in Tools, Accounts, Mail,
Properties, Advanced. The 6th should be somewhat less. If you are
getting 6 parts, I'm guessing that's set around 500 KB.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
when I send it now it breaks into six part (this particular example)
but
when the six parts arrive and I highlight them and right click them I
don't get the "combine and decode" command in the drop down menu.
instead I
have to use "message" and the drop down menu from that "combine and
decode"
(all parts are in the correct order) and I get Att00044.dat (378KB)
instead
of filename.mpeg (2.05MB)
thanks in advance

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
What exactly happens when you combine the messages? Do you get any
error message? Or is it just the attachment that's a problem?

What you need to do is look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3) of the
combined message and compare to the version in the Sent Items folder.
They should be identical with the exception of some additional header
lines in the combined message that are the result of the mail servers
and any anti-virus or anti-spam that the message has passed through.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
messages aren't hanging anymore... I can send and receive all parts
,
but
when I combine them the file doesn't work

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Did you try deleting the Outbox folder as described in step 3?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
well below any size limits , can combine multipart messages from
newsgroups.. I uninstalled my antivirus but cannot recombine all
the
parts
when I send them to myself??


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
A few things may be going on:

1) Your ISP may have message size limits. Check with them.

2) If you have your anti-virus scanning outgoing or incoming mail
or
are
running anti-spam software, either of those can cause problems.
The
outgoing scanning could cause the send to hang. And any of them
could
muck up the message so that the combine and decode won't work.

With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply
tells
the
program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the
messages
and may still cause send/receive failures. What you may need to do
is
uninstall the anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom
install option and unselect the e-mail scanning component for
installation.

3) This could be a corrupted Outbox folder in Outlook Express:
- Close Outlook Express.
- OE5+: Locate the file outbox.dbx in the mail directory and delete
it.
You can use Start, Find (or Search), Files or Folders, outbox.dbx
to
find it. On Win2000 you need enable the display of Hidden or
System
files in the folder options and XP you need to use the advanced
options
to find Hidden or System files. (You can also determine the
location
by
looking in OE at Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder.)
- Open Outlook Express again. It will create a new empty Outbox.
This could be the cause of the send hanging, but would not cause
problems with the combine and decode assuming that you got all the
parts
in the Inbox.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
cannot send multi part emails (large files) I have tried changing
the
size of the parts (form 499KB to over 1MEG)
for example if will break the email into 11 parts and then proceed
to
send 10 parts over and over.... till I delete it out of the outbox
.
right now if I send it to myself (a 4 part in this example) the
parts
do
not show up in the right order and they cannot be recombined, even
when
placed in the correct order
any help will be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance saggman54

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Take a look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3) for each message and look at
the header. The header runs from the top of the message until the first
blank line.

The end of header in each message should be similar to the following:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: message/partial;
total=3;
id="01C82C70.9C8636E0@COMP2";
number=1
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198

The value of the ID will be different than mine, but the same in all your
parts for the same split message.

The total will be the total number of parts. And the number will vary in
each part from 1 up to the total number of parts.

Do you messages have that or something else?


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
forwarded as plain text format... antivirus is uninstalled (no antivirus)
parts are received as 500KB but when I open each part they are listed as
373KB


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
What looks like is happening is that only the first message is getting
processed. Due to encoding overhead, the 501 KB message would have
about 373 KB of the attachment.

Something may be screwing up the message headers.

Are you sending in HTML or Plain Text format? If HTML, try plain text.
That simplifies the MIME structure.

Is your anti-virus set to scan e-mail or are you running any anti-spam?
Either of those can screw up the MIME headers. They would be more
likely to do so with an HTML message rather than plain text.

With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply tells the
program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the messages
and may still cause send/receive failures. What you may need to do is
uninstall the anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom
install option and unselect the e-mail scanning component for
installation.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
Just did another one... 2 parts 501KB and 220KB.... when combined =
373KB
?????


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
POP3 server, right now break apart size is set to 499KB although I
have had
it set to 999kb and work some of my earlier incoming mail may have
been
automatically recombine... (so fast I didn't see it) but emails I send
to
myself have always had to be combined and decoded manually (highlight
all
parts, right click, combine and decode) the example email came back 5
x
501KB plus 247KB or 2.752MB


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
What kind of server are these coming into? If a POP3 server, OE would
normally automatically do the combine and decode if they download in
the
correct order. For an IMAP or HTTP, I'm not sure, but the manual
combine and decode may be necessary.

If you don't already have it, add the SIZE column to your Sent Items
and
Inbox.

How big does OE say that the Sent message is? for a 2.05 MB file
attachment, the message should be around 2.85 MB due to encoding
overhead.

How big are each of the 6 incoming parts? The first 5 should be about
the break apart size that you specified in Tools, Accounts, Mail,
Properties, Advanced. The 6th should be somewhat less. If you are
getting 6 parts, I'm guessing that's set around 500 KB.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
when I send it now it breaks into six part (this particular example)
but
when the six parts arrive and I highlight them and right click them I
don't get the "combine and decode" command in the drop down menu.
instead I
have to use "message" and the drop down menu from that "combine and
decode"
(all parts are in the correct order) and I get Att00044.dat (378KB)
instead
of filename.mpeg (2.05MB)
thanks in advance

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
What exactly happens when you combine the messages? Do you get any
error message? Or is it just the attachment that's a problem?

What you need to do is look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3) of the
combined message and compare to the version in the Sent Items folder.
They should be identical with the exception of some additional header
lines in the combined message that are the result of the mail servers
and any anti-virus or anti-spam that the message has passed through.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
messages aren't hanging anymore... I can send and receive all parts
,
but
when I combine them the file doesn't work

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Did you try deleting the Outbox folder as described in step 3?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
well below any size limits , can combine multipart messages from
newsgroups.. I uninstalled my antivirus but cannot recombine all
the
parts
when I send them to myself??


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
A few things may be going on:

1) Your ISP may have message size limits. Check with them.

2) If you have your anti-virus scanning outgoing or incoming mail
or
are
running anti-spam software, either of those can cause problems.
The
outgoing scanning could cause the send to hang. And any of them
could
muck up the message so that the combine and decode won't work.

With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply
tells
the
program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the
messages
and may still cause send/receive failures. What you may need to do
is
uninstall the anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom
install option and unselect the e-mail scanning component for
installation.

3) This could be a corrupted Outbox folder in Outlook Express:
- Close Outlook Express.
- OE5+: Locate the file outbox.dbx in the mail directory and delete
it.
You can use Start, Find (or Search), Files or Folders, outbox.dbx
to
find it. On Win2000 you need enable the display of Hidden or
System
files in the folder options and XP you need to use the advanced
options
to find Hidden or System files. (You can also determine the
location
by
looking in OE at Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder.)
- Open Outlook Express again. It will create a new empty Outbox.
This could be the cause of the send hanging, but would not cause
problems with the combine and decode assuming that you got all the
parts
in the Inbox.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
cannot send multi part emails (large files) I have tried changing
the
size of the parts (form 499KB to over 1MEG)
for example if will break the email into 11 parts and then proceed
to
send 10 parts over and over.... till I delete it out of the outbox
.
right now if I send it to myself (a 4 part in this example) the
parts
do
not show up in the right order and they cannot be recombined, even
when
placed in the correct order
any help will be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance saggman54

"Dc Kiteto" wrote in message
...
no i didnt get tha message, sent and received



"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
What exactly happens when you combine the messages? Do you get any error
message? Or is it just the attachment that's a problem?

What you need to do is look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3) of the
combined message and compare to the version in the Sent Items folder.
They should be identical with the exception of some additional header
lines in the combined message that are the result of the mail servers and
any anti-virus or anti-spam that the message has passed through.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
messages aren't hanging anymore... I can send and receive all parts ,
but
when I combine them the file doesn't work

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Did you try deleting the Outbox folder as described in step 3?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
well below any size limits , can combine multipart messages from
newsgroups.. I uninstalled my antivirus but cannot recombine all the
parts
when I send them to myself??


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
A few things may be going on:

1) Your ISP may have message size limits. Check with them.

2) If you have your anti-virus scanning outgoing or incoming mail or
are
running anti-spam software, either of those can cause problems. The
outgoing scanning could cause the send to hang. And any of them could
muck up the message so that the combine and decode won't work.

With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply tells
the
program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the messages
and may still cause send/receive failures. What you may need to do is
uninstall the anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom
install option and unselect the e-mail scanning component for
installation.

3) This could be a corrupted Outbox folder in Outlook Express:
- Close Outlook Express.
- OE5+: Locate the file outbox.dbx in the mail directory and delete
it.
You can use Start, Find (or Search), Files or Folders, outbox.dbx to
find it. On Win2000 you need enable the display of Hidden or System
files in the folder options and XP you need to use the advanced
options
to find Hidden or System files. (You can also determine the location
by
looking in OE at Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder.)
- Open Outlook Express again. It will create a new empty Outbox.
This could be the cause of the send hanging, but would not cause
problems with the combine and decode assuming that you got all the
parts
in the Inbox.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
cannot send multi part emails (large files) I have tried changing the
size of the parts (form 499KB to over 1MEG)
for example if will break the email into 11 parts and then proceed to
send 10 parts over and over.... till I delete it out of the outbox .
right now if I send it to myself (a 4 part in this example) the parts
do
not show up in the right order and they cannot be recombined, even
when
placed in the correct order
any help will be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance saggman54

"$B@P0f!!9(97(B" wrote in message
...

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
What exactly happens when you combine the messages? Do you get any error
message? Or is it just the attachment that's a problem?

What you need to do is look at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3) of the
combined message and compare to the version in the Sent Items folder.
They should be identical with the exception of some additional header
lines in the combined message that are the result of the mail servers and
any anti-virus or anti-spam that the message has passed through.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
messages aren't hanging anymore... I can send and receive all parts ,
but
when I combine them the file doesn't work

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
Did you try deleting the Outbox folder as described in step 3?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
well below any size limits , can combine multipart messages from
newsgroups.. I uninstalled my antivirus but cannot recombine all the
parts
when I send them to myself??


"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
A few things may be going on:

1) Your ISP may have message size limits. Check with them.

2) If you have your anti-virus scanning outgoing or incoming mail or
are
running anti-spam software, either of those can cause problems. The
outgoing scanning could cause the send to hang. And any of them could
muck up the message so that the combine and decode won't work.

With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply tells
the
program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the messages
and may still cause send/receive failures. What you may need to do is
uninstall the anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom
install option and unselect the e-mail scanning component for
installation.

3) This could be a corrupted Outbox folder in Outlook Express:
- Close Outlook Express.
- OE5+: Locate the file outbox.dbx in the mail directory and delete
it.
You can use Start, Find (or Search), Files or Folders, outbox.dbx to
find it. On Win2000 you need enable the display of Hidden or System
files in the folder options and XP you need to use the advanced
options
to find Hidden or System files. (You can also determine the location
by
looking in OE at Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder.)
- Open Outlook Express again. It will create a new empty Outbox.
This could be the cause of the send hanging, but would not cause
problems with the combine and decode assuming that you got all the
parts
in the Inbox.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"saggman54" wrote in message
...
cannot send multi part emails (large files) I have tried changing the
size of the parts (form 499KB to over 1MEG)
for example if will break the email into 11 parts and then proceed to
send 10 parts over and over.... till I delete it out of the outbox .
right now if I send it to myself (a 4 part in this example) the parts
do
not show up in the right order and they cannot be recombined, even
when
placed in the correct order
any help will be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance saggman54