Outlook Express starts by itself

You should determine if this is system-wide:

1. Create a new User (same as yours as far as permission rights), Test User
2. Login (to create account)
3. Logout
4. Login (to use normal)

See if Outlook Express starts automatically. If it doesn't, then you
definitely have something started for only your user, which narrows the
analysis field down quite a bit. You can then lock down your user by:

1. Disable items in C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup folder using msconfig (and not just what you think
should be). Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

1. Disable items in (HKCU)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run to
Run-Archive. Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

If problem disappears, then the offending item is in the Run group.

---- OR ----

If Outlook Express still starts, then you also know that the change is for
everyone, and that means you can turn off certain per-user settings, reboot
again and see if the new user still has the problem. If it does, then that
means that the problem is for the system, not on a per-user basis.

This narrows it down to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
and the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
folder.

There are also other areas, that MSCONFIG, does not show that are used to
start the system. You should download the freeware program AUTORUNS from
www.sysinternals.com to check EVERYTHING that is started when you start the
system.

Remember, to delete the Test User account when finished. This is a easy way
to determine if a problem is system-wide or just for a new user. Also,
whether or not the Default User account has been modified to create this
action when a new user is created.


"accordeoniste" wrote in message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred me to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that they have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any warning, whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and that was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list and see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE, but at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection is made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made. The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's the
auto-dialing that triggers OE, not IE itself.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I recently purchased a used notebook computer with Windows XP
installed. Soon
after I started using it, I noticed that Outlook Express starts
automatically
when MS Internet Explorer is running. I haven't seen it happen
when
I
run
other applications.

I don't want OE to start by itself, but I don't know how to
configure
it so
that it doesn't. I've carefully examined all the settings in
both
OE
and
MSIE, but couldn't find any that would explain this behavior.
Can
anyone help
me out with this?

I finally found the culprit. Originally I renamed the Main Identity in OE to
my wife's name. It's spelled the same way as her user name when starting OE.
Since then, OE started by itself, and unexpectedly. But when I changed the
identity name to something else, i.e. mywife'sname@computer name, OE no
longer started by itself. I can't explain why OE started spontaneously. But
I'm relieved that it's no longer doing it.

Thanks, Lawrence, for suggesting that I create a new user account. After I
did that, and discovered that the new user didn't have the problem, I
concluded that it had something to do with the OE settings themselves.

"Lawrence J. Gardner" wrote:

You should determine if this is system-wide:

1. Create a new User (same as yours as far as permission rights), Test User
2. Login (to create account)
3. Logout
4. Login (to use normal)

See if Outlook Express starts automatically. If it doesn't, then you
definitely have something started for only your user, which narrows the
analysis field down quite a bit. You can then lock down your user by:

1. Disable items in C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup folder using msconfig (and not just what you think
should be). Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

1. Disable items in (HKCU)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run to
Run-Archive. Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

If problem disappears, then the offending item is in the Run group.

---- OR ----

If Outlook Express still starts, then you also know that the change is for
everyone, and that means you can turn off certain per-user settings, reboot
again and see if the new user still has the problem. If it does, then that
means that the problem is for the system, not on a per-user basis.

This narrows it down to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
and the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
folder.

There are also other areas, that MSCONFIG, does not show that are used to
start the system. You should download the freeware program AUTORUNS from
www.sysinternals.com to check EVERYTHING that is started when you start the
system.

Remember, to delete the Test User account when finished. This is a easy way
to determine if a problem is system-wide or just for a new user. Also,
whether or not the Default User account has been modified to create this
action when a new user is created.


"accordeoniste" wrote in message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred me to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that they have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any warning, whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and that was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list and see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE, but at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection is made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made. The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's the
auto-dialing that triggers OE, not IE itself.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I recently purchased a used notebook computer with Windows XP
installed. Soon
after I started using it, I noticed that Outlook Express starts
automatically
when MS Internet Explorer is running. I haven't seen it happen
when
I
run
other applications.

I don't want OE to start by itself, but I don't know how to
configure
it so
that it doesn't. I've carefully examined all the settings in
both
OE
and
MSIE, but couldn't find any that would explain this behavior.
Can
anyone help
me out with this?

I'm glad you fixed it. But I'm at a loss as to why the identity name
would make any difference.

About all I can imagine is that something is still trying to start OE,
but failing because of the identity name.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...

I finally found the culprit. Originally I renamed the Main Identity in
OE to
my wife's name. It's spelled the same way as her user name when
starting OE.
Since then, OE started by itself, and unexpectedly. But when I changed
the
identity name to something else, i.e. mywife'sname@computer name, OE
no
longer started by itself. I can't explain why OE started
spontaneously. But
I'm relieved that it's no longer doing it.

Thanks, Lawrence, for suggesting that I create a new user account.
After I
did that, and discovered that the new user didn't have the problem, I
concluded that it had something to do with the OE settings themselves.

"Lawrence J. Gardner" wrote:

You should determine if this is system-wide:

1. Create a new User (same as yours as far as permission rights),
Test User
2. Login (to create account)
3. Logout
4. Login (to use normal)

See if Outlook Express starts automatically. If it doesn't, then you
definitely have something started for only your user, which narrows
the
analysis field down quite a bit. You can then lock down your user
by:

1. Disable items in C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup folder using msconfig (and not just what you
think
should be). Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

1. Disable items in (HKCU)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run to
Run-Archive. Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

If problem disappears, then the offending item is in the Run group.

---- OR ----

If Outlook Express still starts, then you also know that the change
is for
everyone, and that means you can turn off certain per-user settings,
reboot
again and see if the new user still has the problem. If it does,
then that
means that the problem is for the system, not on a per-user basis.

This narrows it down to
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
and the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
folder.

There are also other areas, that MSCONFIG, does not show that are
used to
start the system. You should download the freeware program AUTORUNS
from
www.sysinternals.com to check EVERYTHING that is started when you
start the
system.

Remember, to delete the Test User account when finished. This is a
easy way
to determine if a problem is system-wide or just for a new user.
Also,
whether or not the Default User account has been modified to create
this
action when a new user is created.


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to
the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred me
to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider
them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that
they have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet
Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any warning,
whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my
desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and that
was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've
logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list and
see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be
finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the
startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it
should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging
into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time
if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to
start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE, but
at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing
else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled
task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or
task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure
keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote
in
message
...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection is
made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to
Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection
manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar
program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook
Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that
will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made. The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then
automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's the
auto-dialing that triggers OE, not IE itself.

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste"
wrote in
message
...
I recently purchased a used notebook computer with Windows
XP
installed. Soon
after I started using it, I noticed that Outlook Express
starts
automatically
when MS Internet Explorer is running. I haven't seen it
happen
when
I
run
other applications.

I don't want OE to start by itself, but I don't know how
to
configure
it so
that it doesn't. I've carefully examined all the settings
in
both
OE
and
MSIE, but couldn't find any that would explain this
behavior.
Can
anyone help
me out with this?

Then the prior identity name only allowed the other program to get as far as
starting OE at the login screen. It's still a mystery to me what the identity
name has to do with it. But I'm not the one who programmed OE, and I've
disabled many startup programs troubleshooting this, so I don't know what
caused OE to do this.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm glad you fixed it. But I'm at a loss as to why the identity name
would make any difference.

About all I can imagine is that something is still trying to start OE,
but failing because of the identity name.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...

I finally found the culprit. Originally I renamed the Main Identity in
OE to
my wife's name. It's spelled the same way as her user name when
starting OE.
Since then, OE started by itself, and unexpectedly. But when I changed
the
identity name to something else, i.e. mywife'sname@computer name, OE
no
longer started by itself. I can't explain why OE started
spontaneously. But
I'm relieved that it's no longer doing it.

Thanks, Lawrence, for suggesting that I create a new user account.
After I
did that, and discovered that the new user didn't have the problem, I
concluded that it had something to do with the OE settings themselves.

"Lawrence J. Gardner" wrote:

You should determine if this is system-wide:

1. Create a new User (same as yours as far as permission rights),
Test User
2. Login (to create account)
3. Logout
4. Login (to use normal)

See if Outlook Express starts automatically. If it doesn't, then you
definitely have something started for only your user, which narrows
the
analysis field down quite a bit. You can then lock down your user
by:

1. Disable items in C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup folder using msconfig (and not just what you
think
should be). Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

1. Disable items in (HKCU)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run to
Run-Archive. Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

If problem disappears, then the offending item is in the Run group.

---- OR ----

If Outlook Express still starts, then you also know that the change
is for
everyone, and that means you can turn off certain per-user settings,
reboot
again and see if the new user still has the problem. If it does,
then that
means that the problem is for the system, not on a per-user basis.

This narrows it down to
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
and the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
folder.

There are also other areas, that MSCONFIG, does not show that are
used to
start the system. You should download the freeware program AUTORUNS
from
www.sysinternals.com to check EVERYTHING that is started when you
start the
system.

Remember, to delete the Test User account when finished. This is a
easy way
to determine if a problem is system-wide or just for a new user.
Also,
whether or not the Default User account has been modified to create
this
action when a new user is created.


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to
the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred me
to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider
them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that
they have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet
Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any warning,
whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my
desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and that
was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've
logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list and
see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be
finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the
startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it
should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging
into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time
if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to
start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE, but
at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing
else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled
task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or
task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure
keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote
in
message
...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection is
made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to
Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection
manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar
program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook
Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that
will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made. The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then
automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's the
auto-dialing that triggers OE, not IE itself.

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste"
wrote in
message
...
I recently purchased a used notebook computer with Windows
XP
installed. Soon
after I started using it, I noticed that Outlook Express
starts
automatically
when MS Internet Explorer is running. I haven't seen it
happen
when
I
run
other applications.

I don't want OE to start by itself, but I don't know how
to
configure
it so
that it doesn't. I've carefully examined all the settings
in
both
OE
and
MSIE, but couldn't find any that would explain this
behavior.
Can
anyone help
me out with this?

Might be something bundled with your ISP software.

steve

"accordeoniste" wrote in message
...
Then the prior identity name only allowed the other program to get as far
as
starting OE at the login screen. It's still a mystery to me what the
identity
name has to do with it. But I'm not the one who programmed OE, and I've
disabled many startup programs troubleshooting this, so I don't know what
caused OE to do this.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm glad you fixed it. But I'm at a loss as to why the identity name
would make any difference.

About all I can imagine is that something is still trying to start OE,
but failing because of the identity name.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...

I finally found the culprit. Originally I renamed the Main Identity in
OE to
my wife's name. It's spelled the same way as her user name when
starting OE.
Since then, OE started by itself, and unexpectedly. But when I changed
the
identity name to something else, i.e. mywife'sname@computer name, OE
no
longer started by itself. I can't explain why OE started
spontaneously. But
I'm relieved that it's no longer doing it.

Thanks, Lawrence, for suggesting that I create a new user account.
After I
did that, and discovered that the new user didn't have the problem, I
concluded that it had something to do with the OE settings themselves.

"Lawrence J. Gardner" wrote:

You should determine if this is system-wide:

1. Create a new User (same as yours as far as permission rights),
Test User
2. Login (to create account)
3. Logout
4. Login (to use normal)

See if Outlook Express starts automatically. If it doesn't, then you
definitely have something started for only your user, which narrows
the
analysis field down quite a bit. You can then lock down your user
by:

1. Disable items in C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup folder using msconfig (and not just what you
think
should be). Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

1. Disable items in (HKCU)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run to
Run-Archive. Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

If problem disappears, then the offending item is in the Run group.

---- OR ----

If Outlook Express still starts, then you also know that the change
is for
everyone, and that means you can turn off certain per-user settings,
reboot
again and see if the new user still has the problem. If it does,
then that
means that the problem is for the system, not on a per-user basis.

This narrows it down to
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
and the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
folder.

There are also other areas, that MSCONFIG, does not show that are
used to
start the system. You should download the freeware program AUTORUNS
from
www.sysinternals.com to check EVERYTHING that is started when you
start the
system.

Remember, to delete the Test User account when finished. This is a
easy way
to determine if a problem is system-wide or just for a new user.
Also,
whether or not the Default User account has been modified to create
this
action when a new user is created.


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to
the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred me
to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider
them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that
they have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet
Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any warning,
whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my
desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and that
was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've
logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list and
see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be
finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the
startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it
should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging
into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time
if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to
start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE, but
at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing
else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled
task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or
task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure
keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote
in
message
...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection is
made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to
Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection
manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar
program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook
Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that
will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made. The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then
automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's the
auto-dialing that triggers OE, not IE itself.

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste"
wrote in
message
...
I recently purchased a used notebook computer with Windows
XP
installed. Soon
after I started using it, I noticed that Outlook Express
starts
automatically
when MS Internet Explorer is running. I haven't seen it
happen
when
I
run
other applications.

I don't want OE to start by itself, but I don't know how
to
configure
it so
that it doesn't. I've carefully examined all the settings
in
both
OE
and
MSIE, but couldn't find any that would explain this
behavior.
Can
anyone help
me out with this?

I don't have any ISP software.

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Might be something bundled with your ISP software.

steve

"accordeoniste" wrote in message
...
Then the prior identity name only allowed the other program to get as far
as
starting OE at the login screen. It's still a mystery to me what the
identity
name has to do with it. But I'm not the one who programmed OE, and I've
disabled many startup programs troubleshooting this, so I don't know what
caused OE to do this.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm glad you fixed it. But I'm at a loss as to why the identity name
would make any difference.

About all I can imagine is that something is still trying to start OE,
but failing because of the identity name.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...

I finally found the culprit. Originally I renamed the Main Identity in
OE to
my wife's name. It's spelled the same way as her user name when
starting OE.
Since then, OE started by itself, and unexpectedly. But when I changed
the
identity name to something else, i.e. mywife'sname@computer name, OE
no
longer started by itself. I can't explain why OE started
spontaneously. But
I'm relieved that it's no longer doing it.

Thanks, Lawrence, for suggesting that I create a new user account.
After I
did that, and discovered that the new user didn't have the problem, I
concluded that it had something to do with the OE settings themselves.

"Lawrence J. Gardner" wrote:

You should determine if this is system-wide:

1. Create a new User (same as yours as far as permission rights),
Test User
2. Login (to create account)
3. Logout
4. Login (to use normal)

See if Outlook Express starts automatically. If it doesn't, then you
definitely have something started for only your user, which narrows
the
analysis field down quite a bit. You can then lock down your user
by:

1. Disable items in C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup folder using msconfig (and not just what you
think
should be). Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

1. Disable items in (HKCU)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run to
Run-Archive. Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

If problem disappears, then the offending item is in the Run group.

---- OR ----

If Outlook Express still starts, then you also know that the change
is for
everyone, and that means you can turn off certain per-user settings,
reboot
again and see if the new user still has the problem. If it does,
then that
means that the problem is for the system, not on a per-user basis.

This narrows it down to
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
and the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
folder.

There are also other areas, that MSCONFIG, does not show that are
used to
start the system. You should download the freeware program AUTORUNS
from
www.sysinternals.com to check EVERYTHING that is started when you
start the
system.

Remember, to delete the Test User account when finished. This is a
easy way
to determine if a problem is system-wide or just for a new user.
Also,
whether or not the Default User account has been modified to create
this
action when a new user is created.


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to
the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred me
to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider
them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that
they have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet
Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any warning,
whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my
desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and that
was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've
logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list and
see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be
finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the
startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it
should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging
into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time
if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to
start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE, but
at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing
else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled
task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or
task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure
keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote
in
message
...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection is
made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to
Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection
manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar
program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook
Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that
will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made. The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then
automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's the
auto-dialing that triggers OE, not IE itself.

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste"
wrote in
message
...
I recently purchased a used notebook computer with Windows
XP
installed. Soon
after I started using it, I noticed that Outlook Express
starts
automatically
when MS Internet Explorer is running. I haven't seen it
happen
when
I
run
other applications.

I don't want OE to start by itself, but I don't know how
to
configure
it so
that it doesn't. I've carefully examined all the settings
in
both

A wild thought on this. Why not try renaming msimn.exe (the OE executable)
to something like XXXmsimn.exe and see what chokes on the next boot? Of
course you might want to make a back up before doing that.


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
It has to be some other program doing this, as OE will not spontaneously
start on its own.

steve

"accordeoniste" wrote in message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred me to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that they
have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any warning,
whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and that was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list and see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE, but at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection is made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made. The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's the
auto-dialing that triggers OE, not IE itself.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...
I recently purchased a used notebook computer with Windows XP
installed. Soon
after I started using it, I noticed that Outlook Express starts
automatically
when MS Internet Explorer is running. I haven't seen it happen
when
I
run
other applications.

I don't want OE to start by itself, but I don't know how to
configure
it so
that it doesn't. I've carefully examined all the settings in
both
OE
and
MSIE, but couldn't find any that would explain this behavior.
Can
anyone help
me out with this?

Well, OE is not doing it by itself. It doesn't have that capability.

steve

"accordeoniste" wrote in message
...
I don't have any ISP software.

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Might be something bundled with your ISP software.

steve

"accordeoniste" wrote in
message
...
Then the prior identity name only allowed the other program to get as
far
as
starting OE at the login screen. It's still a mystery to me what the
identity
name has to do with it. But I'm not the one who programmed OE, and I've
disabled many startup programs troubleshooting this, so I don't know
what
caused OE to do this.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm glad you fixed it. But I'm at a loss as to why the identity name
would make any difference.

About all I can imagine is that something is still trying to start OE,
but failing because of the identity name.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...

I finally found the culprit. Originally I renamed the Main Identity
in
OE to
my wife's name. It's spelled the same way as her user name when
starting OE.
Since then, OE started by itself, and unexpectedly. But when I
changed
the
identity name to something else, i.e. mywife'sname@computer name, OE
no
longer started by itself. I can't explain why OE started
spontaneously. But
I'm relieved that it's no longer doing it.

Thanks, Lawrence, for suggesting that I create a new user account.
After I
did that, and discovered that the new user didn't have the problem,
I
concluded that it had something to do with the OE settings
themselves.

"Lawrence J. Gardner" wrote:

You should determine if this is system-wide:

1. Create a new User (same as yours as far as permission rights),
Test User
2. Login (to create account)
3. Logout
4. Login (to use normal)

See if Outlook Express starts automatically. If it doesn't, then
you
definitely have something started for only your user, which narrows
the
analysis field down quite a bit. You can then lock down your user
by:

1. Disable items in C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup folder using msconfig (and not just what you
think
should be). Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

1. Disable items in (HKCU)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run to
Run-Archive. Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

If problem disappears, then the offending item is in the Run group.

---- OR ----

If Outlook Express still starts, then you also know that the change
is for
everyone, and that means you can turn off certain per-user
settings,
reboot
again and see if the new user still has the problem. If it does,
then that
means that the problem is for the system, not on a per-user basis.

This narrows it down to
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
and the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
folder.

There are also other areas, that MSCONFIG, does not show that are
used to
start the system. You should download the freeware program
AUTORUNS
from
www.sysinternals.com to check EVERYTHING that is started when you
start the
system.

Remember, to delete the Test User account when finished. This is a
easy way
to determine if a problem is system-wide or just for a new user.
Also,
whether or not the Default User account has been modified to create
this
action when a new user is created.


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to
the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred
me
to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider
them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that
they have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet
Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any
warning,
whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my
desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and
that
was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've
logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list
and
see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be
finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the
startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it
should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote
in
message
...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging
into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time
if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE
when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to
start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE,
but
at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing
else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled
task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or
task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure
keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste"
wrote
in
message
...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection
is
made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to
Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection
manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar
program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook
Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that
will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made.
The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from
that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then
automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's
the
auto-dialing that triggers OE, not IE itself.

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste"
wrote in
message
...
I recently purchased a used notebook computer with
Windows
XP
installed. Soon
after I started using it, I noticed that Outlook Express
starts
automatically
when MS Internet Explorer is running. I haven't seen it
happen
when
I
run
other applications.

I don't want OE to start by itself, but I don't know how
to
configure
it so
that it doesn't. I've carefully examined all the
settings
in
both

Ok, your point is well taken, Steve. But we still haven't answered the
question of why this happened. So unless someone has a good explanation of
what is causing OE to do this, I think we should consider the matter closed.

Someday, hopefully, a Microsoft programmer will come forward with the
explanation, for the benefit of all OE users.

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Well, OE is not doing it by itself. It doesn't have that capability.

steve

"accordeoniste" wrote in message
...
I don't have any ISP software.

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Might be something bundled with your ISP software.

steve

"accordeoniste" wrote in
message
...
Then the prior identity name only allowed the other program to get as
far
as
starting OE at the login screen. It's still a mystery to me what the
identity
name has to do with it. But I'm not the one who programmed OE, and I've
disabled many startup programs troubleshooting this, so I don't know
what
caused OE to do this.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm glad you fixed it. But I'm at a loss as to why the identity name
would make any difference.

About all I can imagine is that something is still trying to start OE,
but failing because of the identity name.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message ...

I finally found the culprit. Originally I renamed the Main Identity
in
OE to
my wife's name. It's spelled the same way as her user name when
starting OE.
Since then, OE started by itself, and unexpectedly. But when I
changed
the
identity name to something else, i.e. mywife'sname@computer name, OE
no
longer started by itself. I can't explain why OE started
spontaneously. But
I'm relieved that it's no longer doing it.

Thanks, Lawrence, for suggesting that I create a new user account.
After I
did that, and discovered that the new user didn't have the problem,
I
concluded that it had something to do with the OE settings
themselves.

"Lawrence J. Gardner" wrote:

You should determine if this is system-wide:

1. Create a new User (same as yours as far as permission rights),
Test User
2. Login (to create account)
3. Logout
4. Login (to use normal)

See if Outlook Express starts automatically. If it doesn't, then
you
definitely have something started for only your user, which narrows
the
analysis field down quite a bit. You can then lock down your user
by:

1. Disable items in C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup folder using msconfig (and not just what you
think
should be). Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

1. Disable items in (HKCU)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run to
Run-Archive. Do them one at a time.
2. Reboot

Keep doing this until all items have been disabled and/or problem
disappears.

If problem disappears, then the offending item is in the Run group.

---- OR ----

If Outlook Express still starts, then you also know that the change
is for
everyone, and that means you can turn off certain per-user
settings,
reboot
again and see if the new user still has the problem. If it does,
then that
means that the problem is for the system, not on a per-user basis.

This narrows it down to
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
and the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
folder.

There are also other areas, that MSCONFIG, does not show that are
used to
start the system. You should download the freeware program
AUTORUNS
from
www.sysinternals.com to check EVERYTHING that is started when you
start the
system.

Remember, to delete the Test User account when finished. This is a
easy way
to determine if a problem is system-wide or just for a new user.
Also,
whether or not the Default User account has been modified to create
this
action when a new user is created.


"accordeoniste" wrote in
message
...
I've disabled many of the startup items in msconfig, according to
the
information provided on the sysinfo.org website you've referred
me
to.
Those
I didn't disable were left running because either: 1) I consider
them
important for proper system function or 2) it didn't appear that
they have
anything to do with the spontaneous OE startup.

In addition, I disabled e-mail checking in Norton Internet
Security.

The result's the same. Outlook Express starts without any
warning,
whether
or not another program is running.

Interestingly, I've seen this same phenomenon happen with my
desktop
running
Win '98. On that system however, it's only happened twice, and
that
was
awhile ago. On the notebook, it's been happening every time I've
logged
in.

Is there anything else I might try to resolve this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

We've covered the obvious places where OE might be starting.

You may want to start going through the MSCONFIG Startup list
and
see
what's starting there. Some may be unnecessary. You may be
finding
something there that could potentially be starting OE.

Use Start, Run, MSCONFIG to run the utility. Then look at the
startup
tab.

Here's a site where you can check what you find to see if it
should be
there
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste" wrote
in
message
...
I've recently seen OE start on its own shortly after logging
into
Windows,
and before starting IE. It's been starting at some random time
if I
don't
start it by clicking on the OE program icon.

None of the scheduled tasks in the Control Panel include OE.

I found no hot key in OE properties configured to start OE
when
pressed. Nor
could I find a keyboard utility that would configure a key to
start
it. I'm
sure that most of the time at least, OE started without any
intervention from
me, either by my pressing a key or by clicking a mouse button.



"Michael Santovec" wrote:

So if I understand you, OE doesn't start when you start IE,
but
at
some
random time later.

If you just turn the PC on, logon into Windows and do nothing
else,
don't start any programs, will OE still start on its own?

A few things to look for:

In Control Panel, Scheduled Tasks, are there any scheduled
task?

Right click the shorts cuts that start OE on the desk top or
task
bar.
Check the properties. Is there a hot key set up for OE?

Also the PC may have some keyboard utility that can configure
keys to
start OE or other programs.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"accordeoniste"
wrote
in
message
...
Outlook Express doesn't start when an Internet Connection
is
made.
I
have a
cable modem connection which is active after I log in to
Windows.
OE
has been
starting sometime after Internet Explorer starts, always
unexpectedly.

I looked in the "Add / Remove Programs" list for connection
manager
software, and couldn't find any. There's a Yahoo Toolbar
program
that's
inactive. Could that have something to do with this?


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

Is it when you make an Internet connection that Outlook
Express
(OE)
starts?

Some PCs have Connection Manager software installed that
will
start
selected programs when an Internet Connection is made.
The
previous
owner may have installed this (or it may have come from
that
owner's
ISP).

If you just start Internet Explorer (IE) and it then
automatically
dials
the ISP, it could be the IE is set to auto-dial and it's

"accordeoniste" wrote in message
...
Ok, your point is well taken, Steve. But we still haven't answered the
question of why this happened. So unless someone has a good explanation of
what is causing OE to do this, I think we should consider the matter
closed.

Someday, hopefully, a Microsoft programmer will come forward with the
explanation, for the benefit of all OE users.


But he did answer. OE is not doing this. Some other program on your
machine is doing this. Without physically having the machine in front of us
we can't help you.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
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