Outlook Express folders do not match .dbx files in Store folder

Certainly does (reduce the size of the inbox dbx file, after compaction --
which is what I mentioned -- when nearly empty).

Same thing seen with other dbx files.

E.g. my outbox may reach 10 MB if I don't compact, even when empty. On
compaction when empty it becomes about 60 kB.

And yes, I know one shouldn't archive messages in folders in constant use.
'Technically' the messages are awaiting filing elsewhere (as txt files) or
are just reminders of action.

I safeguard myself against loss by frequent back-ups.

DAS

To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Moving messages out of a folder does not change the size of the dbx file.
If the folder was that large, you should move the message to new folders.
--
Ron Sommer

"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote in message
...
I have a large folder which is too large for compaction, it seems (my
Inbox), so occasionally I move a large chunk of msgs out into a temporary
folder, compact the remainder and move the other messages back.
Sometimes I also compact the temp folder/s, though I am not sure if that
adds benefit.

I do not delete any folders in the process.

Seems to work, anyway. Inbox always significantly smaller than before.

I mention this because the OP speaks of trying to reduce the size of a
folder. If simple compaction does not work -- which it should, since 50
MB isn't that much -- then the above procedure should.

Unless I have missed something from the OP, regarding trying to reduce
folder size...

DAS
--
To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
Yes, that and the date being 3/08/07.
Doing a compaction will change the dbx file date to the compaction date.
If a compaction is performed and the date is not changed suggests that
the correct store folder is not being viewed.
--
Ron Sommer

"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote in message
...
Doesn't a large folder size for few (and assuming small, without
massive attachments) files suggest that compaction has not been carried
out for a long time?

DAS

To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"daandehn" wrote in message
...
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the
Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in
the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is
not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain
the same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled
Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx
files in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning
OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that no .dbx
file can
be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity and one
Identity
folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4)
when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly
very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent
Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store
folder (cf.
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42
messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the
message to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while
"working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not
attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can
cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email

http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that
have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are
some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to
view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms
folder. It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the
Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the
file it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too
large) but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42
messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I
want to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible
to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.

I knew I should have added a qualifier... see my reply to Ron Sommer
immediately above -- or below, depending on which way your are viewing).

I know I shouldn't but...

DAS

To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"PA Bear [MS-MVP]" wrote in message
...
Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages!

On Jul 22, 9:34 am, "Dori A Schmetterling" wrote:
I have a large folder which is too large for compaction, it seems (my
Inbox), so occasionally I move a large chunk of msgs out into a temporary
folder, compact the remainder and move the other messages back.
snip

There is only one Store folder and compaction has been carried out any time
Outlook asks plus manually as well. File View options have been changed to
view hidden files. All of this information wass furnished previously.

Please read my problem description completely and carefully. Obviously
something is happening (or not happening as the case may be) thaat is not
correct. I just don't know what it is or what to do about it.

Thanks

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you sure you are looking in the correct store for your identity?

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options
Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"daandehn" wrote in message
...
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain the
same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx files
in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning
OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that no .dbx file
can
be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity and one Identity
folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4) when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store folder
(cf.
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the message
to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt
to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to
view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms folder. It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the file
it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too large)
but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I want
to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Only one user account/Identity. Show hidden files and folders is enabled. If
the identity is corrupted, how would I know? What would I do about it? I have
had no problems until I attempted a recent backup of my email.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Assuming you've enabled 'Show Hidden Files and Folders'
(http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial62.html)...

A1 & A2. Then you're looking in another identity's store folder or your
current identity is very badly corrupted.

A3. If you're running WinXP SP3 and the computer's fully patched at Windows
Update, there's no way a store folder containing DBX files dated 03/08/2007
(08 Mar-07 or 03 Aug-07?) belongs to your current identity.

There is only one Identity and one Identity folder.

Ah, but how many (Windows) User Accounts are there?

===========

1. Start | Run | (type or copy/paste) REGEDIT | [OK]

2. Navigate to this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities

How many subkeys are displayed directly underneath the above key? (Write
down the number of subkeys)

3. Now expand each of the subkeys, in turn: In the right-hand pane, what's
the Username for each subkey? (Write down each Username)

4. Close REGEDIT
--
~PA Bear

daandehn wrote:
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain the
same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx files
in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that
no
.dbx file can be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity
and
one Identity folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4) when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store folder
(cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the message
to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt
to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms folder. It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the file
it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too large)
but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I want to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Only "Main Identity" is shown as Username

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Assuming you've enabled 'Show Hidden Files and Folders'
(http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial62.html)...

A1 & A2. Then you're looking in another identity's store folder or your
current identity is very badly corrupted.

A3. If you're running WinXP SP3 and the computer's fully patched at Windows
Update, there's no way a store folder containing DBX files dated 03/08/2007
(08 Mar-07 or 03 Aug-07?) belongs to your current identity.

There is only one Identity and one Identity folder.

Ah, but how many (Windows) User Accounts are there?

===========

1. Start | Run | (type or copy/paste) REGEDIT | [OK]

2. Navigate to this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities

How many subkeys are displayed directly underneath the above key? (Write
down the number of subkeys)

3. Now expand each of the subkeys, in turn: In the right-hand pane, what's
the Username for each subkey? (Write down each Username)

4. Close REGEDIT
--
~PA Bear

daandehn wrote:
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain the
same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx files
in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that
no
.dbx file can be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity
and
one Identity folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4) when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store folder
(cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the message
to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt
to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms folder. It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the file
it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too large)
but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I want to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.

problem is...compaction has been carried out regularly including yesterday

"Ron Sommer" wrote:

Yes, that and the date being 3/08/07.
Doing a compaction will change the dbx file date to the compaction date.
If a compaction is performed and the date is not changed suggests that the
correct store folder is not being viewed.
--
Ron Sommer

"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote in message
...
Doesn't a large folder size for few (and assuming small, without massive
attachments) files suggest that compaction has not been carried out for a
long time?

DAS

To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"daandehn" wrote in message
...
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is
not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain the
same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx files
in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning
OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that no .dbx file
can
be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity and one
Identity
folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4) when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store folder
(cf.
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the message
to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not
attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that
have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are
some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to
view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms folder.
It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the
Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the
file it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too large)
but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I want
to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Your current Identity is very badly damaged, primarily due to your lousy
"housekeeping" in the past. Try one or more of your mail accounts in a new
Named Identity...

File | Identities | Add new identity

NB: Do NOT name the new identity 'Main Identity' or include the work
'main' in the name!

Assuming all is well, (1) compact all folders in the old identity, (2)
import messages from the old identity's store into the new one, and then (3)
delete the old identity (File | Identities | Manage Identities).

To avoid such corruption in futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

daandehn wrote:
Only "Main Identity" is shown as Username
paste
Only one user account/Identity. Show hidden files and folders is enabled.
If
the identity is corrupted, how would I know? What would I do about it? I
have had no problems until I attempted a recent backup of my email.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Assuming you've enabled 'Show Hidden Files and Folders'
(http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial62.html)...

A1 & A2. Then you're looking in another identity's store folder or your
current identity is very badly corrupted.

A3. If you're running WinXP SP3 and the computer's fully patched at
Windows
Update, there's no way a store folder containing DBX files dated
03/08/2007
(08 Mar-07 or 03 Aug-07?) belongs to your current identity.

There is only one Identity and one Identity folder.

Ah, but how many (Windows) User Accounts are there?

===========

1. Start | Run | (type or copy/paste) REGEDIT | [OK]

2. Navigate to this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities

How many subkeys are displayed directly underneath the above key? (Write
down the number of subkeys)

3. Now expand each of the subkeys, in turn: In the right-hand pane,
what's
the Username for each subkey? (Write down each Username)

4. Close REGEDIT
--
~PA Bear

daandehn wrote:
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is
not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain the
same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled
Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx
files
in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that
no
.dbx file can be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity
and
one Identity folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4)
when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store folder
(cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the message
to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not
attempt
to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that
have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are
some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to
view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms folder.
It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the
Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the
file
it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too large)
but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I want
to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.

I did read your problem description completely. You may be able to retrieve
messages with this tool.

DBXpress:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

You may need to run it in the Extract From Disk Mode if its normal recovery
mode fails to find the lost messages.

As others have said, poor housekeeping of a not so reliable e-mail client is
the cause. Among the things others have suggested, make sure you backup OE
daily if you value its contents.

This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
written in red. That is referring to a different program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"daandehn" wrote in message
...
There is only one Store folder and compaction has been carried out any
time
Outlook asks plus manually as well. File View options have been changed to
view hidden files. All of this information wass furnished previously.

Please read my problem description completely and carefully. Obviously
something is happening (or not happening as the case may be) thaat is not
correct. I just don't know what it is or what to do about it.

Thanks

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Are you sure you are looking in the correct store for your identity?

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in
Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must
enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder
Options
Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"daandehn" wrote in message
...
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in
the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is
not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain the
same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled
Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx
files
in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning
OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that no .dbx
file
can
be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity and one
Identity
folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4)
when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store
folder
(cf.
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42
messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the
message
to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not
attempt
to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that
have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are
some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to
view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms folder.
It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the
Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the
file
it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too
large)
but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42
messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I
want
to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible
to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.

When I do this, the only files imported are PRIOR to the 03/08/2007 date.
Where is OE storing my current messages, which I can access and process as
always?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Your current Identity is very badly damaged, primarily due to your lousy
"housekeeping" in the past. Try one or more of your mail accounts in a new
Named Identity...

File | Identities | Add new identity

NB: Do NOT name the new identity 'Main Identity' or include the work
'main' in the name!

Assuming all is well, (1) compact all folders in the old identity, (2)
import messages from the old identity's store into the new one, and then (3)
delete the old identity (File | Identities | Manage Identities).

To avoid such corruption in futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

daandehn wrote:
Only "Main Identity" is shown as Username
paste
Only one user account/Identity. Show hidden files and folders is enabled.
If
the identity is corrupted, how would I know? What would I do about it? I
have had no problems until I attempted a recent backup of my email.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Assuming you've enabled 'Show Hidden Files and Folders'
(http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tuto...torial62.html)...

A1 & A2. Then you're looking in another identity's store folder or your
current identity is very badly corrupted.

A3. If you're running WinXP SP3 and the computer's fully patched at
Windows
Update, there's no way a store folder containing DBX files dated
03/08/2007
(08 Mar-07 or 03 Aug-07?) belongs to your current identity.

There is only one Identity and one Identity folder.

Ah, but how many (Windows) User Accounts are there?

===========

1. Start | Run | (type or copy/paste) REGEDIT | [OK]

2. Navigate to this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities

How many subkeys are displayed directly underneath the above key? (Write
down the number of subkeys)

3. Now expand each of the subkeys, in turn: In the right-hand pane,
what's
the Username for each subkey? (Write down each Username)

4. Close REGEDIT
--
~PA Bear

daandehn wrote:
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is
not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain the
same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled
Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx
files
in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that
no
.dbx file can be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity
and
one Identity folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4)
when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store folder
(cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the message
to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not
attempt
to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that
have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are
some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to
view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms folder.
It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the
Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the
file
it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too large)
but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42 messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I want
to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.

You need to create a new Identity.
Import your messages into the new Identity.
--
Ron Sommer

"daandehn" wrote in message
news
problem is...compaction has been carried out regularly including yesterday

"Ron Sommer" wrote:

Yes, that and the date being 3/08/07.
Doing a compaction will change the dbx file date to the compaction date.
If a compaction is performed and the date is not changed suggests that
the
correct store folder is not being viewed.
--
Ron Sommer

"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote in message
...
Doesn't a large folder size for few (and assuming small, without
massive
attachments) files suggest that compaction has not been carried out for
a
long time?

DAS

To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"daandehn" wrote in message
...
Let me try to simplify by only discussing one problem at a time:

1. There are folders in OE with no corresponding .dbx file in the
Store
folder. If I do a search, the results show the missing .dbx to be in
the
Store folder, but if I open the store folder in Windows Explorer it is
not
displayed.

2. There are .dbx files without corresponding folders in OE. These are
folders that have been deleted in OE, but the .dbx file remains in the
Store
folder.

3. Interestingly, all of the .dbx files in the Store folder contain
the
same
date 03/08/2007 which is, I believe, the last time I reinstalled
Windows.

How and why is this happening? What can be done to realign the .dbx
files
in
the Store folder with the folders appearing in OE? OE seems to be
functioning
OK and the emails are showing up in OE despite the fact that no .dbx
file
can
be viewed in Windows Explorer. There is only one Identity and one
Identity
folder.

Windows XP SP3 with latest updates

Thank You

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Win2K SP4)
when
posting to this newsgroup.

Following some instructions [from] here...

What instructions, where?

...Sent Itms folder...showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly
very
small).
...Following some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file,
deleted the
Sent Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent
Items.

WRONG! See below.

Now there is no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer

Was OE closed when you started messing around in your message store
folder?
Are you certain that you're looking in the correct message store
folder
(cf.
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain)?

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42
messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

See below.

General OE Caveats:

- Do NOT use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages! Move the
message
to
local folders you've created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while
"working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not
attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic
Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can
cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional
protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email

http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


daandehn wrote:
When I view the .dbx files in the Store folder there are some that
have
been
previously deleted, but still showing. More improtantly, there are
some
that
are current that have no .dbx file showing. I have my system set to
view
hidden files. Why would some be hidden?

For example I was trying to reduce the size of the Sent Itms
folder.
It
origianlly showed at 53MB for only 543 files (mostly very small).
Following
some instructions fro here I moved all to a Temp file, deleted the
Sent
Items.dbx file and then moved all back from Temp to Sent Items. Now
there
is
no Sent Items.dbx showing in Windows Explorer. If I search for the
file it
shows as in the Store folder with a size of 31MB (still way too
large)
but
I
cannot view it in Windoes Explorer.

I also have a size problem with Inbox.dbx. There are only 42
messages
showing yet the size is 62MB.

How to get this all straightened out. What shows in OE is what I
want
to
see, but the .dbx files really are a mismatch making it impossible
to
backup.

Thanks in advance for your help.