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  #11  
Old August 13th, 2009, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
Arvin Meyer [MVP][_2_]
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Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...

To get you started, try these:

http://www.accessmvp.com/Strive4Peace/Index.htm

Both in written form and in video. Crystal's teaching is aces in my book.
--
Arvin Meyer, MCP, MVP
http://www.datastrat.com
http://www.mvps.org/access
http://www.accessmvp.com


"gowiththeflow" wrote in message
...
Thankyou, Klatuu

if you have any recommended tutorials, i would be happy to use them..

best regards
martin

"Klatuu" wrote:

Avoid Steve. He is a well know Troll. First, soliciting work is against
the
rules of this forum. He has been violating this for years. Second, those
who
have seen his work are not impressed. Were he any good, he would not
have to
be begging for pennies here.

--
Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP


"gowiththeflow" wrote:

Hello $$Steve$$

i am volunteering to be a non-profit's webmaster. turbomachinery aero
design is my specialty.
i am looking to learn how to do this myself, if you can help with
advise
then i am thankful.

i didn't think this was an enterprise forum?

martin

"Steve" wrote:

Hello,

If you want help putting this app together, I can help you. I provide
help
with Access applications for a nominal fee. If you would like my
help,
contact me.

Steve




"gowiththeflow" wrote in
message
...
i am successfully reading a text file into an access table.
it is from a website info request form with fields that are
simple....name,
address and so on.
the data base is to be used to assign an individual to answer the
question
and track responses and automatically email the response after
approval.
but the first step is to try is to create a form where the dbmaster
separates name into personal name and family name, additionally
parses
address into street, city/town, state and zip.
so far no luck.
i have also tried to establish relationships between the inforeq
table and
an intermediate table, but the data base dose not load my 6
entries.

i am at less than 0 and going backwards....ps i amd enough of an
excel
geek
to write my own subprograms and functions in vb....but its time for
me to
use
access





  #12  
Old August 13th, 2009, 11:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
John W. Vinson
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Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:54:02 -0700, gowiththeflow
wrote:

Thankyou, Klatuu

if you have any recommended tutorials, i would be happy to use them..


Here's a bunch of resources including tutorials:

Jeff Conrad's resources page:
http://www.accessmvp.com/JConrad/acc...resources.html

The Access Web resources page:
http://www.mvps.org/access/resources/index.html

Roger Carlson's tutorials, samples and tips:
http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/

A free tutorial written by Crystal:
http://allenbrowne.com/casu-22.html

A video how-to series by Crystal:
http://www.YouTube.com/user/LearnAccessByCrystal

MVP Allen Browne's tutorials:
http://allenbrowne.com/links.html#Tutorials

I'll respond to your original post as well.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]
  #13  
Old August 13th, 2009, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
John W. Vinson
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Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...zip

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:21:02 -0700, gowiththeflow
wrote:

i am successfully reading a text file into an access table.
it is from a website info request form with fields that are simple....name,
address and so on.


What's the actual structure of the imported table - fieldnames, description of
content, datatype? Do any of the tables have Primary Keys or relationships?

the data base is to be used to assign an individual to answer the question
and track responses and automatically email the response after approval.
but the first step is to try is to create a form where the dbmaster
separates name into personal name and family name, additionally parses
address into street, city/town, state and zip.
so far no luck.


Automatic parsing of names and addresses can be a huge pain in the neck since
they're so inconsistant: "Cher", "J. R. R. Tolkien", "Ralph von Wau Wau",
"Mary Lou Retton" are all perfectly good full names but they all parse
differently into personal and family names. Addresses are somewhat worse. This
usually requires a USB (Using Someone's Brain) interface.

i have also tried to establish relationships between the inforeq table and
an intermediate table, but the data base dose not load my 6 entries.


Establishing relationships will PREVENT adding invalid data but it certainly
won't cause anything to be loaded... what are the structures of these tables
and how are they related? How are you loading them? What are you expecting to
happen when you do?

i am at less than 0 and going backwards....ps i amd enough of an excel geek
to write my own subprograms and functions in vb....but its time for me to use
access


We're here to help (except for a small minority who are here to solicit paid
work). It works best if you post specific questions with enough detail that
the responder doesn't need a long back and forth extracting them.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]
  #14  
Old August 13th, 2009, 11:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
John Spencer
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Posts: 2,364
Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...zip

It would be simpler if you could modify the source data so the
information was properly divided in the first place.

Parsing the data into its components is bound to introduce errors. Since
you say you have a one name field you could be getting
First Middle Last and Suffix
Last Suffix comma first middle
First Last
Last comma First
(or other permutations of the name)

William Van Morrison - First Name=William; Middle name =Van or nothing;
Last Name =Morrison or Van Morrison

Addresses are almost as bad. If you are lucky there are separator
characters (commas, dashes, or semi-colons between the parts)

123 South Hampton Circle NE, San Francisco, CA 21259-4437


'================================================= ===
John Spencer
Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2009
The Hilltop Institute
University of Maryland Baltimore County
'================================================= ===


gowiththeflow wrote:
i am successfully reading a text file into an access table.
it is from a website info request form with fields that are simple....name,
address and so on.
the data base is to be used to assign an individual to answer the question
and track responses and automatically email the response after approval.
but the first step is to try is to create a form where the dbmaster
separates name into personal name and family name, additionally parses
address into street, city/town, state and zip.
so far no luck.
i have also tried to establish relationships between the inforeq table and
an intermediate table, but the data base dose not load my 6 entries.

i am at less than 0 and going backwards....ps i amd enough of an excel geek
to write my own subprograms and functions in vb....but its time for me to use
access

  #15  
Old August 14th, 2009, 09:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
Keith Wilby
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Posts: 812
Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...

"gowiththeflow" wrote in message
...
Hello $$Steve$$


$teve, LOL. Read this before you consider hiring $limey $teve:

http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

  #16  
Old August 14th, 2009, 12:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
BruceM[_4_]
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Posts: 558
Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...

Steve is the only one who regualrly trolls for work here. He has been
reprimanded again and again, but seems unable to understand that this is a
free forum. Aside from that, there is reason to suspect the quality and
depth of his knowledge and understanding where Access is concerned..

"gowiththeflow" wrote in message
...
Hello $$Steve$$

i am volunteering to be a non-profit's webmaster. turbomachinery aero
design is my specialty.
i am looking to learn how to do this myself, if you can help with advise
then i am thankful.

i didn't think this was an enterprise forum?

martin

"Steve" wrote:

Hello,

If you want help putting this app together, I can help you. I provide
help
with Access applications for a nominal fee. If you would like my help,
contact me.

Steve




"gowiththeflow" wrote in
message
...
i am successfully reading a text file into an access table.
it is from a website info request form with fields that are
simple....name,
address and so on.
the data base is to be used to assign an individual to answer the
question
and track responses and automatically email the response after
approval.
but the first step is to try is to create a form where the dbmaster
separates name into personal name and family name, additionally parses
address into street, city/town, state and zip.
so far no luck.
i have also tried to establish relationships between the inforeq table
and
an intermediate table, but the data base dose not load my 6 entries.

i am at less than 0 and going backwards....ps i amd enough of an excel
geek
to write my own subprograms and functions in vb....but its time for me
to
use
access






  #17  
Old August 14th, 2009, 12:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
BruceM[_4_]
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Posts: 558
Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...

Then why not suggest a way to parse a name field as requested, as a
demonstration of your claimed abilities? The OP is not going to hire you,
even if in the end a consultant is needed.

"Steve" wrote in message
m...
If you don't get the help you need and you are still in panic, I will be
here. My fee will be very reasonable to help you.

Steve


"gowiththeflow" wrote in message
...
Hello $$Steve$$

i am volunteering to be a non-profit's webmaster. turbomachinery aero
design is my specialty.
i am looking to learn how to do this myself, if you can help with advise
then i am thankful.

i didn't think this was an enterprise forum?

martin

"Steve" wrote:

Hello,

If you want help putting this app together, I can help you. I provide
help
with Access applications for a nominal fee. If you would like my help,
contact me.

Steve




"gowiththeflow" wrote in
message
...
i am successfully reading a text file into an access table.
it is from a website info request form with fields that are
simple....name,
address and so on.
the data base is to be used to assign an individual to answer the
question
and track responses and automatically email the response after
approval.
but the first step is to try is to create a form where the dbmaster
separates name into personal name and family name, additionally parses
address into street, city/town, state and zip.
so far no luck.
i have also tried to establish relationships between the inforeq table
and
an intermediate table, but the data base dose not load my 6 entries.

i am at less than 0 and going backwards....ps i amd enough of an excel
geek
to write my own subprograms and functions in vb....but its time for me
to
use
access







  #18  
Old August 14th, 2009, 07:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
Martin K...ski near Boston
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Posts: 4
Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...

The info request file, generated by a php script is a .txt file formated in
csv. it looks like this
category,name,address,telephone,email,datime,comme nts
only category is forced through a default value
name, email and comment are required to successfully submit...test performed
in php script
all feilds are limited to 35 characters except for comments which is limited
to 1k
the gmt date/time format is my own yyyymmddhhmmss format and thus sortable
in a pinch. in rare circumstances it could have duplicate values when
submissions occur within 1 second.
due to the variability in names and address and due to the low level of
traffic that this website sees,

the inforeq file reads nicely and access adds a nice primary key index
(autonumber) as the first field. the date/time must be read as a double.

i am now using the "calls template" as my starting point.
i have deleted the forms, tables and queries related to calls

i have set up a 1to1 relationship between the inforeq table id and the cases
id
i am able to update the cases table through selection of the "+" sign to the
left of the row....yes i know this is a bad thing to do....but my form/query
work is unsuccessful

further, i cant get my category and comments feilds to cross pollinate
correctly through use of relationships.....it forces a lookup on me

i personally want to parse the name and address in a form.
i have generated numerous forms and am not successful in getting it to load
the main table

so, i am sorry this is a mess, i would be grateful if you could help me go
in the right direction

thx
marty
ps...i am now near DC
"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:21:02 -0700, gowiththeflow
wrote:

i am successfully reading a text file into an access table.
it is from a website info request form with fields that are simple....name,
address and so on.


What's the actual structure of the imported table - fieldnames, description of
content, datatype? Do any of the tables have Primary Keys or relationships?

the data base is to be used to assign an individual to answer the question
and track responses and automatically email the response after approval.
but the first step is to try is to create a form where the dbmaster
separates name into personal name and family name, additionally parses
address into street, city/town, state and zip.
so far no luck.


Automatic parsing of names and addresses can be a huge pain in the neck since
they're so inconsistant: "Cher", "J. R. R. Tolkien", "Ralph von Wau Wau",
"Mary Lou Retton" are all perfectly good full names but they all parse
differently into personal and family names. Addresses are somewhat worse. This
usually requires a USB (Using Someone's Brain) interface.

i have also tried to establish relationships between the inforeq table and
an intermediate table, but the data base dose not load my 6 entries.


Establishing relationships will PREVENT adding invalid data but it certainly
won't cause anything to be loaded... what are the structures of these tables
and how are they related? How are you loading them? What are you expecting to
happen when you do?

i am at less than 0 and going backwards....ps i amd enough of an excel geek
to write my own subprograms and functions in vb....but its time for me to use
access


We're here to help (except for a small minority who are here to solicit paid
work). It works best if you post specific questions with enough detail that
the responder doesn't need a long back and forth extracting them.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]

  #19  
Old August 14th, 2009, 08:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
Martin K...ski near Boston
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Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...

thx, i took a look.....i am way less knowledgable then those tutorial assume

best regards
marty

"Douglas J. Steele" wrote:

One of the best places to get links to good tutorials, books, etc. is Jeff
Conrad's http://www.accessmvp.com/JConrad/acc...resources.html

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no private e-mails, please)


"gowiththeflow" wrote in message
...
i am successfully reading a text file into an access table.
it is from a website info request form with fields that are
simple....name,
address and so on.
the data base is to be used to assign an individual to answer the question
and track responses and automatically email the response after approval.
but the first step is to try is to create a form where the dbmaster
separates name into personal name and family name, additionally parses
address into street, city/town, state and zip.
so far no luck.
i have also tried to establish relationships between the inforeq table and
an intermediate table, but the data base dose not load my 6 entries.

i am at less than 0 and going backwards....ps i amd enough of an excel
geek
to write my own subprograms and functions in vb....but its time for me to
use
access




  #20  
Old August 14th, 2009, 08:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted
Martin K...ski near Boston
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Posts: 4
Default help, i am in panic.....7 days of tutorials and experiments...

many of the websites users are between 60 and 90 years of age.
so i think it is important to keep it simple and less intimidating.
i have even found my turing test (captcha) has caused a big problem simple
because these people are confussed by its neccesity...

getting seniors to be comfortable on a pc is difficult.

as i indicated elswhere, there is currently low traffic using this specific
page, so i dont mind doing the parsing my self before it passes to the board
of directors president.

thx
marty

"John Spencer" wrote:

It would be simpler if you could modify the source data so the
information was properly divided in the first place.

Parsing the data into its components is bound to introduce errors. Since
you say you have a one name field you could be getting
First Middle Last and Suffix
Last Suffix comma first middle
First Last
Last comma First
(or other permutations of the name)

William Van Morrison - First Name=William; Middle name =Van or nothing;
Last Name =Morrison or Van Morrison

Addresses are almost as bad. If you are lucky there are separator
characters (commas, dashes, or semi-colons between the parts)

123 South Hampton Circle NE, San Francisco, CA 21259-4437


'================================================= ===
John Spencer
Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2009
The Hilltop Institute
University of Maryland Baltimore County
'================================================= ===


gowiththeflow wrote:
i am successfully reading a text file into an access table.
it is from a website info request form with fields that are simple....name,
address and so on.
the data base is to be used to assign an individual to answer the question
and track responses and automatically email the response after approval.
but the first step is to try is to create a form where the dbmaster
separates name into personal name and family name, additionally parses
address into street, city/town, state and zip.
so far no luck.
i have also tried to establish relationships between the inforeq table and
an intermediate table, but the data base dose not load my 6 entries.

i am at less than 0 and going backwards....ps i amd enough of an excel geek
to write my own subprograms and functions in vb....but its time for me to use
access


 




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