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Old August 2nd, 2009, 11:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
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Default Outlook not correctly importing .vcs file

Outlook's support of "floating time" format in vcalendar files (.vcs) is not
working.

Outlook always interprets the DTSTART and DTEND fields of the .vcs as UTC,
whether or not the DATE-TIME string is terminated with the "Z".

According to RCF 2445, the "Z" indicates UTC, and the absence of the "Z"
indicates local ("floating") time.

Example:
DTSTART:20090822T080000
should be imported as "8:00 am" local; instead, it's being imported as 01:00
am local (PDT) time.
Compare to
DTSTART:20090822T080000Z (this is 01:00 am PDT)
and
DTSTART:20090822T150000Z (this is equivalent to 08:00 am PDT)

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Old April 13th, 2010, 07:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
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Old April 13th, 2010, 11:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
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By the way it works OK Outlook 2000.

Sometime after then Microsoft must have had an office party!


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Old April 13th, 2010, 07:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
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"webgurupc" webgurupc.49chdp@invalid wrote in message
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BUMP
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Someone must have an idea of what? You posted this as a new message. No one
knows what you mean.
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Old April 16th, 2010, 03:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
webgurupc
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this is where i posted...

http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?p=139364


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Old April 16th, 2010, 03:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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Default Outlook not correctly importing .vcs file

Most of us read this group in a newsreader and we only see the last 3 months
of posts. For this reason, that forum is configured to always quote the post
you are replying to - so replies to older messages are included for those of
us who read the forum with an NNTP client.


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"webgurupc" webgurupc.49iiib@invalid wrote in message
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this is where i posted...

http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?p=139364


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Old April 16th, 2010, 03:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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Default Outlook not correctly importing .vcs file

Outlook has never supported 'floating' appointments - they are always pinned
to a specific UTC time and if you change the time zone, the appointment time
changes. Even all day appointments change to 24 hrs over 2 days (ie, 11 pm -
11 pm or 1 am - 1 am) when the time zone is changed.

Outlook 2010 now supports all day even that stick to the date but timed
appointments will move with the time zone changes (you can select a time
zone for appointments so you don't have to think about the correct time in
that zone while in a different zone)


Outlook's support of "floating time" format in vcalendar files (.vcs) is not
working.

Outlook always interprets the DTSTART and DTEND fields of the .vcs as UTC,
whether or not the DATE-TIME string is terminated with the "Z".

According to RCF 2445, the "Z" indicates UTC, and the absence of the "Z"
indicates local ("floating") time.

Example:
DTSTART:20090822T080000
should be imported as "8:00 am" local; instead, it's being imported as 01:00
am local (PDT) time.
Compare to
DTSTART:20090822T080000Z (this is 01:00 am PDT)
and
DTSTART:20090822T150000Z (this is equivalent to 08:00 am PDT)


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"webgurupc" webgurupc.49cqmo@invalid wrote in message
news:webgurupc.49cqmo@invalid...

By the way it works OK Outlook 2000.

Sometime after then Microsoft must have had an office party!


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Old April 17th, 2010, 01:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
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'Diane Poremsky [MVP Wrote:
;140230']Outlook has never supported 'floating' appointments - they are
always pinned
to a specific UTC time


Many Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately it is not correct.

I run outlook 2002. The VCS file below works as a floating time, as
their is no "Z" after the DSTART & DEND fields. This appt comes up on my
computer as 9am to 11am, no mater what timezone I set OUTLOOK to.

Code:
--------------------
BEGIN: VCALENDAR
PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 9.0 MIMEDIR//EN
VERSION:1.0
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART:20100504T090000
DTEND:20100504T11000
UID: Cars.PoolBooking.
SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Meeting
PRIORITY:3
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR:

--------------------



This Appointment is linked to UTC as there is a "Z" after the DSTART &
DEND fields.

Code:
--------------------
BEGIN: VCALENDAR
PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 9.0 MIMEDIR//EN
VERSION:1.0
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART:20100504T090000Z
DTEND:20100504T11000Z
UID: Cars.PoolBooking.
SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:meeting
PRIORITY:3
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR:

--------------------


So I think my office party theory stills stands, but I am very happy
to be corrected.


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Old April 17th, 2010, 02:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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Default Outlook not correctly importing .vcs file

When its first opened, it will be on 9 -11, but when you change the
computer's time zone, it will stay on 9-11 in the time zone you used when
you added it to the calendar. It will not float to 9 -11 in every time
zone - but it will be added to 9 -11 if you reopen it from the hard drive.
(http://slipstick.me/jing/time.png) That is not how Outlook works. It
works as expected in Outlook 2010 and 2003 - those are the only 2 versions I
have accessible at the moment. You said it works like this in 2000 also but
not 2002?

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"webgurupc" webgurupc.49je7p@invalid wrote in message
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'Diane Poremsky [MVP Wrote:
;140230']Outlook has never supported 'floating' appointments - they are
always pinned
to a specific UTC time


Many Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately it is not correct.

I run outlook 2002. The VCS file below works as a floating time, as
their is no "Z" after the DSTART & DEND fields. This appt comes up on my
computer as 9am to 11am, no mater what timezone I set OUTLOOK to.

Code:
--------------------
BEGIN: VCALENDAR
PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 9.0 MIMEDIR//EN
VERSION:1.0
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART:20100504T090000
DTEND:20100504T11000
UID: Cars.PoolBooking.
SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Meeting
PRIORITY:3
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR:

--------------------



This Appointment is linked to UTC as there is a "Z" after the DSTART &
DEND fields.

Code:
--------------------
BEGIN: VCALENDAR
PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 9.0 MIMEDIR//EN
VERSION:1.0
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTART:20100504T090000Z
DTEND:20100504T11000Z
UID: Cars.PoolBooking.
SUMMARY;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:meeting
PRIORITY:3
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR:

--------------------


So I think my office party theory stills stands, but I am very happy
to be corrected.


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  #10  
Old April 18th, 2010, 12:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
webgurupc
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Default Outlook not correctly importing .vcs file


So many thanks for your reply. This thread is really getting interesting
now.

I have read & reread your reply and am hoping I have made sense of it.
Please forgive me if I interperated your reply incorrectly.

When its first opened, it will be on 9 -11, but when you change the
computer's time zone, it will stay on 9-11 in the time zone you used
when
you added it to the calendar. It will not float to 9 -11 in every time
zone - but it will be added to 9 -11 if you reopen it from the hard
drive.


Correct - this is what is happening in Outlook 2002 & 2000

Once the apointment is made in outlook it will move as per timezone -
but this part doesn't interest me. Just the part that one cannot add a
NEW appointment with a floating timezone (without the "z" ) to outlook
as one used to be able to do.

It works as expected in Outlook 2010 and 2003


I don't understand your "as expected"? Do you mean it floats without
the Z?

Here it works correctly. (real sorry about the video quality -
somewhere between me and utube it went fuzzy)
object width="425" height="344"param name="movie"
value="http://www.youtube.com/v/goCu5cOj0lw&hl=en&fs=1"/paramparam
name="allowFullScreen" value="true"/paramparam
name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"/paramembed
src="http://www.youtube.com/v/goCu5cOj0lw&hl=en&fs=1"
type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always"
allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"/embed/object


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