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Old June 16th, 2004, 03:33 PM
Bill Mitchell
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Default odd page section breaks

I've got a problem trying to get my odd page section breaks to fall into
line.
When I insert the break after the last line of a section Word shows the
first line of the next section as being on an odd page, but when I print a
section I get a blank unnumbered page as page 1 and the text with an odd
page number starts on the second page.
i.e. Sec 28 with odd page section ends on page 237 Sec 29 starts on page
239, when I print Sec 29 the first page out is blank & the second is page
239.

The problem doesn't seem to occur in the areas where the odd page section
break has been inserted into an even numbered page.

--
Bill Mitchell


  #2  
Old June 16th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default odd page section breaks

Make sure you don't have a page break in addition to the section break (even
in the form of a paragraph formatted "Page break before").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
I've got a problem trying to get my odd page section breaks to fall into
line.
When I insert the break after the last line of a section Word shows the
first line of the next section as being on an odd page, but when I print a
section I get a blank unnumbered page as page 1 and the text with an odd
page number starts on the second page.
i.e. Sec 28 with odd page section ends on page 237 Sec 29 starts on page
239, when I print Sec 29 the first page out is blank & the second is page
239.

The problem doesn't seem to occur in the areas where the odd page section
break has been inserted into an even numbered page.

--
Bill Mitchell



  #3  
Old June 16th, 2004, 04:30 PM
Bill Mitchell
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Default odd page section breaks

Hi Suzanne,
I just checked that. All of the sections begin with a certain style and they
each end with a certain style. I checked both and cleared out everything
having to do with pages, but I still have the same problem.
The only thing I didn't mention is that I have a TC filed inserted at the
very beginning of each section.
It looks like Word is making the hidden "even" page the first page of the
new section rather than the last page of the old section.

Bill

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Make sure you don't have a page break in addition to the section break

(even
in the form of a paragraph formatted "Page break before").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup

so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
I've got a problem trying to get my odd page section breaks to fall into
line.
When I insert the break after the last line of a section Word shows the
first line of the next section as being on an odd page, but when I print

a
section I get a blank unnumbered page as page 1 and the text with an odd
page number starts on the second page.
i.e. Sec 28 with odd page section ends on page 237 Sec 29 starts on page
239, when I print Sec 29 the first page out is blank & the second is

page
239.

The problem doesn't seem to occur in the areas where the odd page

section
break has been inserted into an even numbered page.

--
Bill Mitchell





  #4  
Old June 17th, 2004, 12:04 AM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default odd page section breaks

I have seen this phenomenon before, in a case where a user was trying to
restart numbering in a section and the first page kept being page 2 because
Word was counting the blank even page as the first page of the section. I
suspect this may be a known bug, but I don't find anything about it in the
KB (there are articles about improper duplexing when the actual page
numbering doesn't agree with the assigned numbers (that is, if you've
started with page 2, but Word knows the first page is 1 and therefore
considers it an odd page).

What may help, if you haven't already done it, is to enable both "Mirror
margins" and "Different odd and even" headers and footers. This will confirm
to Word that you are duplexing and may alleviate the situation, though I
don't guarantee anything.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne,
I just checked that. All of the sections begin with a certain style and

they
each end with a certain style. I checked both and cleared out everything
having to do with pages, but I still have the same problem.
The only thing I didn't mention is that I have a TC filed inserted at the
very beginning of each section.
It looks like Word is making the hidden "even" page the first page of the
new section rather than the last page of the old section.

Bill

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Make sure you don't have a page break in addition to the section break

(even
in the form of a paragraph formatted "Page break before").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
I've got a problem trying to get my odd page section breaks to fall

into
line.
When I insert the break after the last line of a section Word shows

the
first line of the next section as being on an odd page, but when I

print
a
section I get a blank unnumbered page as page 1 and the text with an

odd
page number starts on the second page.
i.e. Sec 28 with odd page section ends on page 237 Sec 29 starts on

page
239, when I print Sec 29 the first page out is blank & the second is

page
239.

The problem doesn't seem to occur in the areas where the odd page

section
break has been inserted into an even numbered page.

--
Bill Mitchell






  #5  
Old June 17th, 2004, 09:02 AM
Stefan Blom
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Default odd page section breaks

Apparently, if you don't specify "Mirror margins" or "Different odd
and even" (or both) Word uses the *page number* to determine whether
it needs to insert a filler page or not.

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" skrev i meddelandet
...
I have seen this phenomenon before, in a case where a user was

trying to
restart numbering in a section and the first page kept being page 2

because
Word was counting the blank even page as the first page of the

section. I
suspect this may be a known bug, but I don't find anything about it

in the
KB (there are articles about improper duplexing when the actual page
numbering doesn't agree with the assigned numbers (that is, if

you've
started with page 2, but Word knows the first page is 1 and

therefore
considers it an odd page).

What may help, if you haven't already done it, is to enable both

"Mirror
margins" and "Different odd and even" headers and footers. This will

confirm
to Word that you are duplexing and may alleviate the situation,

though I
don't guarantee anything.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne,
I just checked that. All of the sections begin with a certain

style and
they
each end with a certain style. I checked both and cleared out

everything
having to do with pages, but I still have the same problem.
The only thing I didn't mention is that I have a TC filed inserted

at the
very beginning of each section.
It looks like Word is making the hidden "even" page the first page

of the
new section rather than the last page of the old section.

Bill

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Make sure you don't have a page break in addition to the section

break
(even
in the form of a paragraph formatted "Page break before").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
I've got a problem trying to get my odd page section breaks to

fall
into
line.
When I insert the break after the last line of a section Word

shows
the
first line of the next section as being on an odd page, but

when I
print
a
section I get a blank unnumbered page as page 1 and the text

with an
odd
page number starts on the second page.
i.e. Sec 28 with odd page section ends on page 237 Sec 29

starts on
page
239, when I print Sec 29 the first page out is blank & the

second is
page
239.

The problem doesn't seem to occur in the areas where the odd

page
section
break has been inserted into an even numbered page.

--
Bill Mitchell









  #6  
Old June 17th, 2004, 02:15 PM
Bill Mitchell
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Default odd page section breaks

Thanks Suzanne,
I've already done all of that. I suppose I'll just have to insert a page
break when the section ends on an odd page and make sure my sections end on
an even page

Bill

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I have seen this phenomenon before, in a case where a user was trying to
restart numbering in a section and the first page kept being page 2

because
Word was counting the blank even page as the first page of the section. I
suspect this may be a known bug, but I don't find anything about it in the
KB (there are articles about improper duplexing when the actual page
numbering doesn't agree with the assigned numbers (that is, if you've
started with page 2, but Word knows the first page is 1 and therefore
considers it an odd page).

What may help, if you haven't already done it, is to enable both "Mirror
margins" and "Different odd and even" headers and footers. This will

confirm
to Word that you are duplexing and may alleviate the situation, though I
don't guarantee anything.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup

so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne,
I just checked that. All of the sections begin with a certain style and

they
each end with a certain style. I checked both and cleared out everything
having to do with pages, but I still have the same problem.
The only thing I didn't mention is that I have a TC filed inserted at

the
very beginning of each section.
It looks like Word is making the hidden "even" page the first page of

the
new section rather than the last page of the old section.

Bill

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Make sure you don't have a page break in addition to the section break

(even
in the form of a paragraph formatted "Page break before").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
I've got a problem trying to get my odd page section breaks to fall

into
line.
When I insert the break after the last line of a section Word shows

the
first line of the next section as being on an odd page, but when I

print
a
section I get a blank unnumbered page as page 1 and the text with an

odd
page number starts on the second page.
i.e. Sec 28 with odd page section ends on page 237 Sec 29 starts on

page
239, when I print Sec 29 the first page out is blank & the second is

page
239.

The problem doesn't seem to occur in the areas where the odd page

section
break has been inserted into an even numbered page.

--
Bill Mitchell








  #7  
Old June 17th, 2004, 02:20 PM
Bill Mitchell
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Default odd page section breaks

Hi Stefan,
I've had mirror & different checked off since I began the manual. I've reset
the mirror margins, but I don't want to reset the odd & even unless I
absolutely have to.

Bill

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Apparently, if you don't specify "Mirror margins" or "Different odd
and even" (or both) Word uses the *page number* to determine whether
it needs to insert a filler page or not.

--
Stefan Blom


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" skrev i meddelandet
...
I have seen this phenomenon before, in a case where a user was

trying to
restart numbering in a section and the first page kept being page 2

because
Word was counting the blank even page as the first page of the

section. I
suspect this may be a known bug, but I don't find anything about it

in the
KB (there are articles about improper duplexing when the actual page
numbering doesn't agree with the assigned numbers (that is, if

you've
started with page 2, but Word knows the first page is 1 and

therefore
considers it an odd page).

What may help, if you haven't already done it, is to enable both

"Mirror
margins" and "Different odd and even" headers and footers. This will

confirm
to Word that you are duplexing and may alleviate the situation,

though I
don't guarantee anything.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Hi Suzanne,
I just checked that. All of the sections begin with a certain

style and
they
each end with a certain style. I checked both and cleared out

everything
having to do with pages, but I still have the same problem.
The only thing I didn't mention is that I have a TC filed inserted

at the
very beginning of each section.
It looks like Word is making the hidden "even" page the first page

of the
new section rather than the last page of the old section.

Bill

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Make sure you don't have a page break in addition to the section

break
(even
in the form of a paragraph formatted "Page break before").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Bill Mitchell" wrote in message
...
I've got a problem trying to get my odd page section breaks to

fall
into
line.
When I insert the break after the last line of a section Word

shows
the
first line of the next section as being on an odd page, but

when I
print
a
section I get a blank unnumbered page as page 1 and the text

with an
odd
page number starts on the second page.
i.e. Sec 28 with odd page section ends on page 237 Sec 29

starts on
page
239, when I print Sec 29 the first page out is blank & the

second is
page
239.

The problem doesn't seem to occur in the areas where the odd

page
section
break has been inserted into an even numbered page.

--
Bill Mitchell











 




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