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  #1  
Old February 27th, 2010, 06:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
kjw
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Posts: 10
Default Red x

I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found anything
that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one person has the red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures from others
works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he also sends it to several
other people I know and they say theirs has the picutres and NOT the red x. I
have checked my firewall, virus, etc. settings and can not find the problem.
It's strange to me that all email works except the ones from him and that
others gets the same email from him that is sent at the same time and theirs
has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting on my end, then why are the
others working? Plus, if it's something he's doing, why does everyone else
get it with the picture and not the red x? Can anyone explain this? This is
weird. Thanks.
  #2  
Old February 27th, 2010, 07:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Posts: 2,690
Default Red x

Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber and/or
are the other recipients AOL subscribers?

If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and you can
see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the problem is NOT on
your end.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Kjw wrote:
I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found anything
that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one person has the
red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures from
others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he also sends it to
several other people I know and they say theirs has the picutres and NOT
the red x. I have checked my firewall, virus, etc. settings and can not
find the problem. It's strange to me that all email works except the ones
from him and that others gets the same email from him that is sent at the
same time and theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting on
my
end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's doing,
why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the red x? Can
anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.


  #3  
Old February 27th, 2010, 09:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
kjw
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Posts: 10
Default Red x

Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing and can
receive from others with it showing. But, this is the strange part, he is
sending these messages all as a group. He and others including myself all use
the same internet service. The others get these same emails with the graphics
showing. If it was on my end, I wouldn't be receiving from myself and others
with the graphics showing, would I. Plus, if it was on his end, the others
that he sent it to at the same time as myself wouldn't be getting them with
the graphics showing, would they? This is weird. Can anyone explain this?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber and/or
are the other recipients AOL subscribers?

If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and you can
see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the problem is NOT on
your end.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Kjw wrote:
I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found anything
that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one person has the
red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures from
others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he also sends it to
several other people I know and they say theirs has the picutres and NOT
the red x. I have checked my firewall, virus, etc. settings and can not
find the problem. It's strange to me that all email works except the ones
from him and that others gets the same email from him that is sent at the
same time and theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting on
my
end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's doing,
why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the red x? Can
anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.


.

  #4  
Old February 28th, 2010, 01:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Twayne[_3_]
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Posts: 135
Default Red x

In ,
Kjw typed:
Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing and
can receive from others with it showing. But, this is the strange
part, he is sending these messages all as a group. He and others
including myself all use the same internet service. The others get
these same emails with the graphics showing. If it was on my end, I
wouldn't be receiving from myself and others with the graphics
showing, would I. Plus, if it was on his end, the others that he sent
it to at the same time as myself wouldn't be getting them with the
graphics showing, would they? This is weird. Can anyone explain this?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber
and/or are the other recipients AOL subscribers?

If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and
you can see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the
problem is NOT on your end.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Kjw wrote:
I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found
anything that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one
person has the red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures
from others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he also
sends it to several other people I know and they say theirs has the
picutres and NOT the red x. I have checked my firewall, virus, etc.
settings and can not find the problem. It's strange to me that all
email works except the ones from him and that others gets the same
email from him that is sent at the same time and theirs has the
picture. It seems like if it's a setting on my
end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's
doing, why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the
red x? Can anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.


.


Assuming he sends all the mails in one go and not separate sessions, then if
some recipien ts see the images OK and some do not, it is NOT anything at
his end. It's highly likely to be a setting on your own computer's client
or in your account settings at your ISP.

Too many variables/possibilities and too little detail to target a response
accurately, but ...
-- Is your ISP scraping and deleting the attachments? Usually that's a
selection around the AV protection area of the ISP's settings, on his
server.
-- Are you the only one in your group that uses your particular ISP? ISPs
can have differeing settings and defaults so if ISP X works OK, that doesn't
really say ISP Y will work OK.
-- Have you set your client Options to not accept attachments that could be
dangerous? If so, turn it off.
-- The fact that others see them isn't helpful unless you also know that all
the others are using the SAME mail client and version of their mail client
as you are using, have all selected the same virus and spam an d attatchmen
t settings the ISP may offer and all are identical.
-- Have you, just for grins, tried installing Thunderbird or any other mail
client to see if it sees the images OK? If another client does see them,
then it's going to be some setting on your end. Actually that's what I
suspect it's going to end up being anyway. Try comparing you computer
account and ISP settings with someone and look for differences, and/ore try
installing a different mail client. The browser counterpart of Thunderbird
is FireFox - an excellent browser with only a couple very annoying
"features" but they're harmless.

HTH,

Twayne




--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

  #5  
Old February 28th, 2010, 01:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Posts: 2,690
Default Red x

Is your anti-virus application configured to scan incoming and outgoing
mail?


Kjw wrote:
Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing and can
receive from others with it showing. But, this is the strange part, he is
sending these messages all as a group. He and others including myself all
use the same internet service. The others get these same emails with the
graphics showing. If it was on my end, I wouldn't be receiving from myself
and others with the graphics showing, would I. Plus, if it was on his end,
the others that he sent it to at the same time as myself wouldn't be
getting them with the graphics showing, would they? This is weird. Can
anyone explain this?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber and/or
are the other recipients AOL subscribers?

If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and you
can
see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the problem is NOT
on
your end.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Kjw wrote:
I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found
anything
that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one person has the
red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures from
others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he also sends it
to
several other people I know and they say theirs has the picutres and NOT
the red x. I have checked my firewall, virus, etc. settings and can not
find the problem. It's strange to me that all email works except the
ones
from him and that others gets the same email from him that is sent at
the
same time and theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting on
my
end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's
doing,
why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the red x? Can
anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.


.


  #6  
Old February 28th, 2010, 04:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
kjw
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Posts: 10
Default Red x

Yes, he sends his emails in one go but the people I have asked are using the
same internet service I am and he does also. Their email is fine with no red
x. BUT, all other email from others I get has the pictures even from the same
internet service that we use. If it was something on my end wouldn't it be
doing it with all of my email and not just the ones from him? I have tried
Thunderbird and it is doing the same thing. No pictures. No, I don't have
Outlook Express set to not accept attachments that could be dangerous? That
has been turned off and still is. It's just strange to me that I get embedded
pictures just fine from everyone except him and that others get it just fine
from him even though we all use the same internet service.

"Twayne" wrote:

In ,
Kjw typed:
Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing and
can receive from others with it showing. But, this is the strange
part, he is sending these messages all as a group. He and others
including myself all use the same internet service. The others get
these same emails with the graphics showing. If it was on my end, I
wouldn't be receiving from myself and others with the graphics
showing, would I. Plus, if it was on his end, the others that he sent
it to at the same time as myself wouldn't be getting them with the
graphics showing, would they? This is weird. Can anyone explain this?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber
and/or are the other recipients AOL subscribers?

If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and
you can see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the
problem is NOT on your end.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Kjw wrote:
I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found
anything that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one
person has the red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures
from others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he also
sends it to several other people I know and they say theirs has the
picutres and NOT the red x. I have checked my firewall, virus, etc.
settings and can not find the problem. It's strange to me that all
email works except the ones from him and that others gets the same
email from him that is sent at the same time and theirs has the
picture. It seems like if it's a setting on my
end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's
doing, why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the
red x? Can anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.

.


Assuming he sends all the mails in one go and not separate sessions, then if
some recipien ts see the images OK and some do not, it is NOT anything at
his end. It's highly likely to be a setting on your own computer's client
or in your account settings at your ISP.

Too many variables/possibilities and too little detail to target a response
accurately, but ...
-- Is your ISP scraping and deleting the attachments? Usually that's a
selection around the AV protection area of the ISP's settings, on his
server.
-- Are you the only one in your group that uses your particular ISP? ISPs
can have differeing settings and defaults so if ISP X works OK, that doesn't
really say ISP Y will work OK.
-- Have you set your client Options to not accept attachments that could be
dangerous? If so, turn it off.
-- The fact that others see them isn't helpful unless you also know that all
the others are using the SAME mail client and version of their mail client
as you are using, have all selected the same virus and spam an d attatchmen
t settings the ISP may offer and all are identical.
-- Have you, just for grins, tried installing Thunderbird or any other mail
client to see if it sees the images OK? If another client does see them,
then it's going to be some setting on your end. Actually that's what I
suspect it's going to end up being anyway. Try comparing you computer
account and ISP settings with someone and look for differences, and/ore try
installing a different mail client. The browser counterpart of Thunderbird
is FireFox - an excellent browser with only a couple very annoying
"features" but they're harmless.

HTH,

Twayne




--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

.

  #7  
Old February 28th, 2010, 04:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
kjw
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Posts: 10
Default Red x


Yes, my virus applications are configured to scan my email coming and going.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Is your anti-virus application configured to scan incoming and outgoing
mail?


Kjw wrote:
Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing and can
receive from others with it showing. But, this is the strange part, he is
sending these messages all as a group. He and others including myself all
use the same internet service. The others get these same emails with the
graphics showing. If it was on my end, I wouldn't be receiving from myself
and others with the graphics showing, would I. Plus, if it was on his end,
the others that he sent it to at the same time as myself wouldn't be
getting them with the graphics showing, would they? This is weird. Can
anyone explain this?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber and/or
are the other recipients AOL subscribers?

If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and you
can
see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the problem is NOT
on
your end.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Kjw wrote:
I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found
anything
that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one person has the
red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures from
others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he also sends it
to
several other people I know and they say theirs has the picutres and NOT
the red x. I have checked my firewall, virus, etc. settings and can not
find the problem. It's strange to me that all email works except the
ones
from him and that others gets the same email from him that is sent at
the
same time and theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting on
my
end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's
doing,
why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the red x? Can
anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.

.


.

  #8  
Old February 28th, 2010, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Twayne[_3_]
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Posts: 135
Default Red x

In ,
Kjw typed:
Yes, he sends his emails in one go but the people I have asked are
using the same internet service I am and he does also. Their email is
fine with no red x. BUT, all other email from others I get has the
pictures even from the same internet service that we use. If it was
something on my end wouldn't it be doing it with all of my email and
not just the ones from him? I have tried Thunderbird and it is doing
the same thing. No pictures. No, I don't have Outlook Express set to
not accept attachments that could be dangerous? That has been turned
off and still is. It's just strange to me that I get embedded
pictures just fine from everyone except him and that others get it
just fine from him even though we all use the same internet service.


Hmm, beats me! All I can think of is to go thru OE's Tools; Option and
Control Panel's Internet Options, looking in each tab for anything that
might cause it. Did you try CTRL-ALT-H, just for grins? Probably not the
fix, but ... can't hurt.
I'd ask your ISP about it too; they might have something turned on that
you're not aware of.
Beyond that, all that's left is file corruption or malware, AFAIK right
now.

Hope you'll let us know when you get it solved?

HTH,

Twayne





"Twayne" wrote:

In ,
Kjw typed:
Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing
and can receive from others with it showing. But, this is the
strange part, he is sending these messages all as a group. He and
others including myself all use the same internet service. The
others get these same emails with the graphics showing. If it was
on my end, I wouldn't be receiving from myself and others with the
graphics showing, would I. Plus, if it was on his end, the others
that he sent it to at the same time as myself wouldn't be getting
them with the graphics showing, would they? This is weird. Can
anyone explain this?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber
and/or are the other recipients AOL subscribers?

If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and
you can see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the
problem is NOT on your end.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Kjw wrote:
I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found
anything that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one
person has the red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures
from others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he
also sends it to several other people I know and they say theirs
has the picutres and NOT the red x. I have checked my firewall,
virus, etc. settings and can not find the problem. It's strange
to me that all email works except the ones from him and that
others gets the same email from him that is sent at the same time
and theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting on my
end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's
doing, why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the
red x? Can anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.

.


Assuming he sends all the mails in one go and not separate sessions,
then if some recipien ts see the images OK and some do not, it is
NOT anything at his end. It's highly likely to be a setting on your
own computer's client or in your account settings at your ISP.

Too many variables/possibilities and too little detail to target a
response accurately, but ...
-- Is your ISP scraping and deleting the attachments? Usually that's
a selection around the AV protection area of the ISP's settings, on
his server.
-- Are you the only one in your group that uses your particular
ISP? ISPs can have differeing settings and defaults so if ISP X
works OK, that doesn't really say ISP Y will work OK.
-- Have you set your client Options to not accept attachments that
could be dangerous? If so, turn it off.
-- The fact that others see them isn't helpful unless you also know
that all the others are using the SAME mail client and version of
their mail client as you are using, have all selected the same virus
and spam an d attatchmen t settings the ISP may offer and all are
identical. -- Have you, just for grins, tried installing Thunderbird
or any other mail client to see if it sees the images OK? If another
client does see them, then it's going to be some setting on your
end. Actually that's what I suspect it's going to end up being
anyway. Try comparing you computer account and ISP settings with
someone and look for differences, and/ore try installing a different
mail client. The browser counterpart of Thunderbird is FireFox - an
excellent browser with only a couple very annoying "features" but
they're harmless.

HTH,

Twayne




--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

.




--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

  #9  
Old February 28th, 2010, 05:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,690
Default Red x

Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
additional protection, it may be causing the problem, and even Symantec says
it's not necessary:

QP
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
/QP
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...02111812533106

• Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

--
~PA Bear

Kjw wrote:
Yes, my virus applications are configured to scan my email coming and
going.

Is your anti-virus application configured to scan incoming and outgoing
mail?

Kjw wrote:
Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing and
can
receive from others with it showing. But, this is the strange part, he
is
sending these messages all as a group. He and others including myself
all
use the same internet service. The others get these same emails with the
graphics showing. If it was on my end, I wouldn't be receiving from
myself
and others with the graphics showing, would I. Plus, if it was on his
end,
the others that he sent it to at the same time as myself wouldn't be
getting them with the graphics showing, would they? This is weird. Can
anyone explain this?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber
and/or
are the other recipients AOL subscribers?

If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and you
can
see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the problem is
NOT
on
your end.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Kjw wrote:
I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found
anything
that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one person has
the
red
x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures from
others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he also sends
it
to
several other people I know and they say theirs has the picutres and
NOT
the red x. I have checked my firewall, virus, etc. settings and can
not
find the problem. It's strange to me that all email works except the
ones
from him and that others gets the same email from him that is sent at
the
same time and theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting
on
my
end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's
doing,
why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the red x? Can
anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.

.


.


  #10  
Old February 28th, 2010, 06:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
DMK
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Posts: 1
Default Red x

=?Utf-8?B?S2p3?= wrote in
:

I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found
anything that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one
person has the red x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I
get with pictures from others works fine. Before you tell me it's on
his end, he also sends it to several other people I know and they say
theirs has the picutres and NOT the red x. I have checked my
firewall, virus, etc. settings and can not find the problem. It's
strange to me that all email works except the ones from him and that
others gets the same email from him that is sent at the same time and
theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting on my end,
then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's doing,
why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the red x? Can
anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.



By any chance is he on a Macintosh computer? Some older systems do not
append a file suffix ".jpg" so A Windows system has no way of defining
what it is unless there is personal intervention in correcting the
filename.

If on a Mac his system may also be encoding the file differently before
attaching for purposes of sending via e-mail.

If you are seeing the red 'x' that may also mean your security settings
are too high and OE is preventing them from displaying. Now I see you
said you checked those but try checking again.

OE is dependant on IE so your security settings for IE would be where to
look.

Also while you may see a red x in the display pane, are the images
actually attached there and can you save them to disk to view that way?

 




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