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  #11  
Old March 24th, 2009, 08:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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Doug

He specifically says it isn't hidden white space.

Terry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
That is what will happen if the White Space at the top of the document is
hidden. Move the mouse cursor to the top of the page until the shape of
the cursor changes to two vertically opposed arrows and then double click
with the left mouse button.

Alternatively, Click on the Office button and then on Word Options in the
bottom border and then on Display and check the box for "Show whtie space
between pages in Print Layout view"

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I can edit the header. He sent me a screen shot and I can see the
header
in his document. I just searched on a term in the header of his screen
shot
and Word 2007 found the term but it showed up in a split window with the
title" First Page header - Section 1" at the bottom of the window . I
have
gone into the Header & Footer Tools/ Design and deselected Different
First
Page but still nothing.

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

If you have got ShowWhiteSpace enabled and there is still no
Header/Footer,
then the user didn't add one to the document. Are you able to
double-click
in the header and edit in the Header area?

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestion. I have selected each view type and still
cannot
see it. I have also chosen "show white space" to ensure that it
wouldn't
be
hidden because of that.



  #12  
Old March 24th, 2009, 09:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com
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Hi Terry,

Yes, but the header opening in a new pane is exactly what will happen if the
White Space is not displayed and you use EditFind to find a word that
appears in the Header or Footer of a document.

If Jen sends the file to you, I will be interested to hear what you
discover.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Doug

He specifically says it isn't hidden white space.

Terry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
That is what will happen if the White Space at the top of the document is
hidden. Move the mouse cursor to the top of the page until the shape of
the cursor changes to two vertically opposed arrows and then double click
with the left mouse button.

Alternatively, Click on the Office button and then on Word Options in the
bottom border and then on Display and check the box for "Show whtie space
between pages in Print Layout view"

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I can edit the header. He sent me a screen shot and I can see the
header
in his document. I just searched on a term in the header of his screen
shot
and Word 2007 found the term but it showed up in a split window with the
title" First Page header - Section 1" at the bottom of the window . I
have
gone into the Header & Footer Tools/ Design and deselected Different
First
Page but still nothing.

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

If you have got ShowWhiteSpace enabled and there is still no
Header/Footer,
then the user didn't add one to the document. Are you able to
double-click
in the header and edit in the Header area?

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestion. I have selected each view type and still
cannot
see it. I have also chosen "show white space" to ensure that it
wouldn't
be
hidden because of that.





  #13  
Old March 24th, 2009, 09:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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Doug

I agree with your assumptions: it definitely doesn't make logical sense
which is why I'd like to look at it.

Terry

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
Hi Terry,

Yes, but the header opening in a new pane is exactly what will happen if
the White Space is not displayed and you use EditFind to find a word that
appears in the Header or Footer of a document.

If Jen sends the file to you, I will be interested to hear what you
discover.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Doug

He specifically says it isn't hidden white space.

Terry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
That is what will happen if the White Space at the top of the document
is hidden. Move the mouse cursor to the top of the page until the shape
of the cursor changes to two vertically opposed arrows and then double
click with the left mouse button.

Alternatively, Click on the Office button and then on Word Options in
the bottom border and then on Display and check the box for "Show whtie
space between pages in Print Layout view"

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I can edit the header. He sent me a screen shot and I can see the
header
in his document. I just searched on a term in the header of his screen
shot
and Word 2007 found the term but it showed up in a split window with
the
title" First Page header - Section 1" at the bottom of the window . I
have
gone into the Header & Footer Tools/ Design and deselected Different
First
Page but still nothing.

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

If you have got ShowWhiteSpace enabled and there is still no
Header/Footer,
then the user didn't add one to the document. Are you able to
double-click
in the header and edit in the Header area?

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestion. I have selected each view type and still
cannot
see it. I have also chosen "show white space" to ensure that it
wouldn't
be
hidden because of that.





  #14  
Old March 24th, 2009, 01:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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As I have already pointed out, this also happens if the text is in an
*unused* header/footer. For example, suppose you have created a First Page
Header with the given text in it. If you then disable "Different first
page," Find will still find that text, opening it in a separate pane labeled
"First Page Header - Section x." In order to access and delete/change the
text, you must enable "Different first page" temporarily.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
Hi Terry,

Yes, but the header opening in a new pane is exactly what will happen if
the White Space is not displayed and you use EditFind to find a word that
appears in the Header or Footer of a document.

If Jen sends the file to you, I will be interested to hear what you
discover.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Doug

He specifically says it isn't hidden white space.

Terry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
That is what will happen if the White Space at the top of the document
is hidden. Move the mouse cursor to the top of the page until the shape
of the cursor changes to two vertically opposed arrows and then double
click with the left mouse button.

Alternatively, Click on the Office button and then on Word Options in
the bottom border and then on Display and check the box for "Show whtie
space between pages in Print Layout view"

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I can edit the header. He sent me a screen shot and I can see the
header
in his document. I just searched on a term in the header of his screen
shot
and Word 2007 found the term but it showed up in a split window with
the
title" First Page header - Section 1" at the bottom of the window . I
have
gone into the Header & Footer Tools/ Design and deselected Different
First
Page but still nothing.

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

If you have got ShowWhiteSpace enabled and there is still no
Header/Footer,
then the user didn't add one to the document. Are you able to
double-click
in the header and edit in the Header area?

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestion. I have selected each view type and still
cannot
see it. I have also chosen "show white space" to ensure that it
wouldn't
be
hidden because of that.






  #15  
Old March 24th, 2009, 03:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Jen
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Just did some more digging. Turns out the header was in a table. When he
converts table to text I am able to see the header with no issues. So, it
appears to be a problem with not recognizing a table in the header. Is that a
known issue?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

As I have already pointed out, this also happens if the text is in an
*unused* header/footer. For example, suppose you have created a First Page
Header with the given text in it. If you then disable "Different first
page," Find will still find that text, opening it in a separate pane labeled
"First Page Header - Section x." In order to access and delete/change the
text, you must enable "Different first page" temporarily.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
Hi Terry,

Yes, but the header opening in a new pane is exactly what will happen if
the White Space is not displayed and you use EditFind to find a word that
appears in the Header or Footer of a document.

If Jen sends the file to you, I will be interested to hear what you
discover.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Doug

He specifically says it isn't hidden white space.

Terry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
That is what will happen if the White Space at the top of the document
is hidden. Move the mouse cursor to the top of the page until the shape
of the cursor changes to two vertically opposed arrows and then double
click with the left mouse button.

Alternatively, Click on the Office button and then on Word Options in
the bottom border and then on Display and check the box for "Show whtie
space between pages in Print Layout view"

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I can edit the header. He sent me a screen shot and I can see the
header
in his document. I just searched on a term in the header of his screen
shot
and Word 2007 found the term but it showed up in a split window with
the
title" First Page header - Section 1" at the bottom of the window . I
have
gone into the Header & Footer Tools/ Design and deselected Different
First
Page but still nothing.

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

If you have got ShowWhiteSpace enabled and there is still no
Header/Footer,
then the user didn't add one to the document. Are you able to
double-click
in the header and edit in the Header area?

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestion. I have selected each view type and still
cannot
see it. I have also chosen "show white space" to ensure that it
wouldn't
be
hidden because of that.







  #16  
Old March 24th, 2009, 04:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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No. It is quite a normal practise to use a table to layout a Header -
especially if it contains a graphic. The most likely scenario is that the
table is floating that is off the page when you open it on your PC. Without
examining it, it is difficult to state exactly why but one possible reason
is that you have a different printer driver.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Just did some more digging. Turns out the header was in a table. When he
converts table to text I am able to see the header with no issues. So, it
appears to be a problem with not recognizing a table in the header. Is
that a
known issue?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

As I have already pointed out, this also happens if the text is in an
*unused* header/footer. For example, suppose you have created a First
Page
Header with the given text in it. If you then disable "Different first
page," Find will still find that text, opening it in a separate pane
labeled
"First Page Header - Section x." In order to access and delete/change the
text, you must enable "Different first page" temporarily.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"
wrote in message ...
Hi Terry,

Yes, but the header opening in a new pane is exactly what will happen
if
the White Space is not displayed and you use EditFind to find a word
that
appears in the Header or Footer of a document.

If Jen sends the file to you, I will be interested to hear what you
discover.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Doug

He specifically says it isn't hidden white space.

Terry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP on news.microsoft.com"

wrote in message ...
That is what will happen if the White Space at the top of the
document
is hidden. Move the mouse cursor to the top of the page until the
shape
of the cursor changes to two vertically opposed arrows and then
double
click with the left mouse button.

Alternatively, Click on the Office button and then on Word Options in
the bottom border and then on Display and check the box for "Show
whtie
space between pages in Print Layout view"

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Yes, I can edit the header. He sent me a screen shot and I can see
the
header
in his document. I just searched on a term in the header of his
screen
shot
and Word 2007 found the term but it showed up in a split window with
the
title" First Page header - Section 1" at the bottom of the window .
I
have
gone into the Header & Footer Tools/ Design and deselected Different
First
Page but still nothing.

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

If you have got ShowWhiteSpace enabled and there is still no
Header/Footer,
then the user didn't add one to the document. Are you able to
double-click
in the header and edit in the Header area?

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"Jen" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestion. I have selected each view type and
still
cannot
see it. I have also chosen "show white space" to ensure that it
wouldn't
be
hidden because of that.







 




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