Visio driving me crazy

I'm trying to generate a Use Case diagram, that's easy. But I cannot figure
out how to make a Use Case Description.

I've found out that there at property tags that can be created and a
documentation property tag that is already there, but what I cannot fathom is
how these can be useful if one cannot print them out with the diagram. Am I
missing something, or is this a limitation to the SW?

I'm using Visio 2003.

Thanks,


Adrian

Maybe there could be some VBA solution to generate this information?

Adrian

"Adrian" wrote:

I'm trying to generate a Use Case diagram, that's easy. But I cannot figure
out how to make a Use Case Description.

I've found out that there at property tags that can be created and a
documentation property tag that is already there, but what I cannot fathom is
how these can be useful if one cannot print them out with the diagram. Am I
missing something, or is this a limitation to the SW?

I'm using Visio 2003.

Thanks,


Adrian

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:56:01 -0800, Adrian
wrote:

I'm trying to generate a Use Case diagram, that's easy. But I cannot figure
out how to make a Use Case Description.

Join the gang.
Which is why I created
http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/
A UML solution for Visio that doesn't tie you in, lock you down and
lock you out. And it's UML2, not the ancient UML1.3


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
SDL/MSC/TTCN/URN/UML2 for Visio http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:45:01 -0800, Adrian
wrote:

Maybe there could be some VBA solution to generate this information?

No, the information is hidden and not accessible.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
DFD/SSADM for Visio http://www.visio-dfd.sandrila.co.uk/

Hey Paul,

Thanks for the link. I've looked at it and it would appear that it does not
address the concerns which I am referring to.

Just skimming over the help pages, it appears that Sandrila is a few scripts
to jump to different pages (interesting), some diagram analysis for checking
for errors in the diagram (possibly useful) and a few others that I don't
apply to my application.

There appear to be more stencils, but the ones Visio comes with are
(currently) sufficient.

Is there something I am missing?


Adrian

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:56:01 -0800, Adrian
wrote:

I'm trying to generate a Use Case diagram, that's easy. But I cannot figure
out how to make a Use Case Description.

Join the gang.
Which is why I created
http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/
A UML solution for Visio that doesn't tie you in, lock you down and
lock you out. And it's UML2, not the ancient UML1.3


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
SDL/MSC/TTCN/URN/UML2 for Visio http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/

That's crazy, what is the point of having the tags then? For use with M$
propriety crap?

This just fuels the hatred for MS stuff and reduces their sales, since if it
allowed access to this data, one could programme some interesting stuff and
release it. Then others may pick up Visio because the off shoot app is
useful. But hey, that MS for ya, always one step behind companies like
Google and Netscape.

Adrian

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:45:01 -0800, Adrian
wrote:

Maybe there could be some VBA solution to generate this information?

No, the information is hidden and not accessible.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
DFD/SSADM for Visio http://www.visio-dfd.sandrila.co.uk/

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:17:00 -0800, Adrian
wrote:

Hey Paul,

Thanks for the link. I've looked at it and it would appear that it does not
address the concerns which I am referring to.

Just skimming over the help pages, it appears that Sandrila is a few scripts
to jump to different pages (interesting), some diagram analysis for checking
for errors in the diagram (possibly useful) and a few others that I don't
apply to my application.

There appear to be more stencils, but the ones Visio comes with are
(currently) sufficient.

Is there something I am missing?

Er, yes.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
SDL/MSC/TTCN/URN/UML2 for Visio http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/

Thanks Paul for a most descriptive response. Would you care to elaborate?

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:17:00 -0800, Adrian
wrote:

Hey Paul,

Thanks for the link. I've looked at it and it would appear that it does not
address the concerns which I am referring to.

Just skimming over the help pages, it appears that Sandrila is a few scripts
to jump to different pages (interesting), some diagram analysis for checking
for errors in the diagram (possibly useful) and a few others that I don't
apply to my application.

There appear to be more stencils, but the ones Visio comes with are
(currently) sufficient.

Is there something I am missing?

Er, yes.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
SDL/MSC/TTCN/URN/UML2 for Visio http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:44:16 -0800, Adrian
wrote:

Thanks Paul for a most descriptive response. Would you care to elaborate?

Well, it's just that my application is somewhat more than "a few
scripts". It's not a script at all.
It's a complete application for creating SDL, MSC, TTCN, URN and UML
diagrams, it can import diagrams from other tools, as well as analysis
of diagrams including syntax checking and state analysis.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
SDL/MSC/TTCN/URN/UML2 for Visio http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/