Outlook 2003 / hotmail account

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:28:45 -0400, Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] wrote:

"N. Miller" wrote in message
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No. MSN Hotmail (as the service was once called) used a protocol for
HTTPMail called, "WebDAV". As of Sept. 1, 2009, that protocol has been
retired. Windows Live Hotmail (as the service is now called) uses a newer
protocol for HTTPMail called, "DeltaSync". MAPI has nothing to do with this
connection to the Hotmail servers.

When you examine an Outlook Connector account, the type shows as "MAPI". I'm
confident that's that Mr. Taylor is referencing.

No way to do that. I don't use either Outlook or the connector.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:51:01 -0700, Jay S. Taylor wrote:

Thanks again for the carification. I only was going by what I could see on
screen. As Brian has already said when I look at my outlook connecter
settings it was showing up a an MAPI account, which I incorrectly referred to
as the protocol.

I don't use either Outlook, or the Outlook Connector. For what I use, either
POP3, or HTTPMail (w/DeltaSync) are all that there is for Hotmail. Based on
Brian Tillman's response about my MAPI comments, I will assume that the
Outlook Connector is using MAPI to link what it is doing (accessing Hotmail
using DeltaSync) to the client (Outlook). I do know that MAPI is an
application to client protocol, and I've used it with a couple of
applications, for calling an email client. So MAPI is probably a local
connection between the Outlook Connector and MS Outlook.

You are also correct in that any emails I didn't manually download to my
laptop cannot be accessed in any way chape or form that I know of. I guess
that'll teach me to ignore those annoying warning emails from Microsoft in
the future. It is kinda sad though as I had thought I set outlook to
download ALL my emails.

Just to clarify: If you have email in local Hotmail folders, which don't
exist on the Hotmail servers, I don't know of any way to access them
directly, now that WebDAV is deactivated. When they flipped the switch on
Sept. 1, 2009, I could not even view the email in my Hotmail folders with MS
Outlook Express; probably because I had not set OE for offline viewing of
email. All OE wanted to do was try to connect to the servers. However, I had
only synchronized that account, so all email that had been in OE was also
still on the Hotmail servers. I've got no idea how Outlook worked, in that
regard.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

"Jay S. Taylor" wrote in message
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You are also correct in that any emails I didn't manually download to my
laptop cannot be accessed in any way chape or form that I know of. I guess
that'll teach me to ignore those annoying warning emails from Microsoft in
the future. It is kinda sad though as I had thought I set outlook to
download ALL my emails.

I'll have to test this with my Hotmail account. For IMAP accounts you need to
be on line to manipulate messages in the folders even though IMAP keeps local
copies of folder just like the Hotmail Connector does. I suspect the Outlook
Connector behaves similarly, but I can verify it when I'm home.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

Jay - I understand what you are referencing and it sounds like Outlook
created another .pst file for the new connection. I believe that your .pst
files need to be merged. I am trying to do something similar and found your
message while trying locate instructions on merging the data so I don't lose
any of the old and new emails.

- heather

"Jay S. Taylor" wrote:

I'm going to restate my problem (hopefully more clearly).

As we all know MS has stopped using the old protocols for hotmail (HTTP I
think) and is now using the MAPI protocol. For years now I have been using
my Outlook for all my emailing (my Telus emails, hotmail, gmail, and shaw).
Sept 3 I installed the outlok connecter and I assumed that it was just going
to let me continue to use my hotmail account like I had been doing. That was
not the case. For 3 days I waited to see if the problem would work itself out
and I could get my hotmail emails through Outlook - but it didn't. I looked
at the help files and it seems that either the outlook connecter didn't work
properly or I missed a pop up during the initialization (or installation
phase) so I used the outlook connector to manually add my hotmail account
(the same one that was already in my outook folders). Doing this created a
new folder with the same hotmail account, but with only some of the folders
(only the ones I created through Live mail). I have other sub-folders in my
hotmail account (the Http one), that I never created in Live mail. I would
like to take all thopse folders and old emails from the http hotmail
account/folder and put them in with the MAPI hotmail account/folder, but
every time I try to do a copy & paste I get a server error message. As well
I can only view some of my old emails in the http hotmail account/folder
using outlook. Before Sept 1 I could see them using outlook. I did havemy
settings set to delete the email off the msn server once I downloaded them,
but I don't understand why I can't see some of them now. Hopefully this has
clarified my trouble & I do thank you all for your aid.

Jason


"Jay S. Taylor" wrote:

I've been using outlook 2003 for year now with my hotmail account, but as you
all know as of Sept. 1 we've had to install the connector in order to use our
email accounts w/ outlook. My problem is that I've got all my folders and
emails under my 'old' hotmail account, but when I installed the outlook
connector software it created a new email account. Is there any way I can
merge the two accounts into one as it is a pain in the A$$ when I have to go
looking for some of my old emails.

Thanks for any help folks.

Jay

"Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]" wrote in message
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I'll have to test this with my Hotmail account. For IMAP accounts you need
to be on line to manipulate messages in the folders even though IMAP keeps
local copies of folder just like the Hotmail Connector does. I suspect the
Outlook Connector behaves similarly, but I can verify it when I'm home.

I did try this for a while this past weekend and found that even while
offline, I could manipulate messages in the Hotmail cache and then when I went
online, they synched.
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]