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Old April 13th, 2005, 10:24 AM
r.e.s.
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Default "Cancel Message" is grayed out on my own posted messages

In OE, for many (but not all) messages that I've posted,
if I select the message (using the same account, etc, as
when posting) the "Cancel Message" item in the Message
menu is grayed out -- there seems to be no pattern as to
which of my posted messages can be cancelled. (At first
I thought it might have to do with whether there were
posted replies to the message, but that's not the case.)
OE Help says that Cancel should work on my own messages.

So what's the story? How do I cancel my message when
Message/Cancel Message is grayed-out?

(I'm running winXP Pro, IE/OE6, with latest upgrades,
and it's a single-user non-networked machine.)

--r.e.s.
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Old April 13th, 2005, 11:14 AM
mac
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"r.e.s." wrote in message
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In OE, for many (but not all) messages that I've posted,
if I select the message (using the same account, etc, as
when posting) the "Cancel Message" item in the Message menu is grayed
out -- there seems to be no pattern as to which of my posted messages can
be cancelled. (At first I thought it might have to do with whether there
were posted replies to the message, but that's not the case.) OE Help
says that Cancel should work on my own messages.

So what's the story? How do I cancel my message when Message/Cancel
Message is grayed-out?

(I'm running winXP Pro, IE/OE6, with latest upgrades,
and it's a single-user non-networked machine.)

--r.e.s.


It has to be a message sent with the same email address and on the same
server.
The MS servers do not accept cancelations! Even if the option is not greyed
out. AFAIK?
HTH?


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Old April 13th, 2005, 11:30 AM
mac
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I should have added:

The post needs to be cancelled on a machine with the same IP address
also(network identity) and by a person with the same name. Thus if you post
from a machine with an IP address assigned by a dialin service, it is
impossible to cancel at a later time since your machine will have a
different address.


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Old April 13th, 2005, 02:48 PM
Steve Cochran
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msnews doesn't support cancellation.

steve

" mac" wrote in message
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"r.e.s." wrote in message
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In OE, for many (but not all) messages that I've posted,
if I select the message (using the same account, etc, as
when posting) the "Cancel Message" item in the Message menu is grayed
out -- there seems to be no pattern as to which of my posted messages
can be cancelled. (At first I thought it might have to do with whether
there were posted replies to the message, but that's not the case.) OE
Help says that Cancel should work on my own messages.

So what's the story? How do I cancel my message when Message/Cancel
Message is grayed-out?

(I'm running winXP Pro, IE/OE6, with latest upgrades,
and it's a single-user non-networked machine.)

--r.e.s.


It has to be a message sent with the same email address and on the same
server.
The MS servers do not accept cancelations! Even if the option is not
greyed out. AFAIK?
HTH?


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Old April 13th, 2005, 06:30 PM
r.e.s.
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"Steve Cochran" wrote ...

msnews doesn't support cancellation.


" mac" wrote ...

"r.e.s." wrote ...
In OE, for many (but not all) messages that I've posted,
if I select the message (using the same account, etc, as
when posting) the "Cancel Message" item in the Message menu is grayed
out -- there seems to be no pattern as to which of my posted messages
can be cancelled. (At first I thought it might have to do with whether
there were posted replies to the message, but that's not the case.) OE
Help says that Cancel should work on my own messages.

So what's the story? How do I cancel my message when Message/Cancel
Message is grayed-out?

(I'm running winXP Pro, IE/OE6, with latest upgrades,
and it's a single-user non-networked machine.)


It has to be a message sent with the same email address and on the same
server.
The MS servers do not accept cancelations! Even if the option is not
greyed out. AFAIK?
HTH?


Thanks to both of you for replying, but the problem lies elsewhere ...

- the messages involved are posted through Earthlink (not msnews)
- the posting and attempt to cancel are done in the *same* session,
and there is no change in any of the parameters mentioned.

I don't know exactly what's going on, but I've discovered that a
fix seems to be Resetting the newsgroup in question and downloading
fresh headers.

I wonder if this could be related to something else I've noticed ...

I have a message rule to watch and highlight in *red* the messages
posted by me (other messages being *blue* in a watched thread).
The oddity is that more-or-less immediately after I post a message,
OE will show the header of my message -- sometimes in red, sometimes
in blue.

Does OE generate a header "locally" (without downloading it from
the server) at the time of posting? If so, maybe OE treats
*downloaded* headers differently from those generated "locally"?

--r.e.s.

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Old April 13th, 2005, 07:00 PM
mac
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"r.e.s." wrote in message
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Thanks to both of you for replying, but the problem lies elsewhere ...

- the messages involved are posted through Earthlink (not msnews)
- the posting and attempt to cancel are done in the *same* session,
and there is no change in any of the parameters mentioned.

I don't know exactly what's going on, but I've discovered that a
fix seems to be Resetting the newsgroup in question and downloading
fresh headers.

I wonder if this could be related to something else I've noticed ...

I have a message rule to watch and highlight in *red* the messages
posted by me (other messages being *blue* in a watched thread).
The oddity is that more-or-less immediately after I post a message,
OE will show the header of my message -- sometimes in red, sometimes
in blue.

Does OE generate a header "locally" (without downloading it from
the server) at the time of posting? If so, maybe OE treats
*downloaded* headers differently from those generated "locally"?

--r.e.s.


If you manage to cancel a message, you are deleting it from the *server
only*, anyone, including you, who have it locally will still see it. They
will also be able to reply to it, quoting it entirely.
The watched message is something different, in that it is known to be quite
temperamental and 'buggie'.


 




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