How do I set up a booklet to bind with punch and bind system?

By "2 up" I mean:
Side 1, 1st sheet: 1 1
Side 2, 1st sheet: 2 2
Side 1, 2nd sheet: 3 3
Side 2, 2nd sheet: 4 4
and so until the last two pages, with odd number pages occupying the first
side and even number pages occupying the second side.

This enables the print shop to use the full 8 1/2" x 11" sheet, which are
cut in half thus creating 2 full documents which can be bound with spiral or
with spines.

My print shop ending up importing into another sofware that allows "2-up"
printing, the pdf file i sent them, but I just thought MS might have found a
way to do that.

Going the route of "1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4" for 70 pages seems a bit cumbersome.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Depends what you mean by "2 up." You can print two pages per sheet (i.e.,
reduced) through the Print dialog, and you can can create a document as two
pages per sheet by selecting this under "Multiple pages" on the Margins tab
of page setup. If you want duplicate pages, you must either create the page
twice or print it twice (by selecting, say, 1,1 for the Pages setting in the
Print dialog). If you want to create a page once and automatically print it
twice (or more), you need to use Publisher.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"TxWeezie" wrote in message
...
Over a year has past and I'm just wondering if Microsoft has ever
addressed
this issue - of being able to print a document "2 up"? According to my
printer, there are other softwares in which you can print 2 up and I don't
understand why Microsoft cannot include that function in Word.

"TXWeezie" wrote:

Sorry, just now getting back to my document. Thanks for your help,
Suzanne. I
think I will take it to the printer and let him deal with it.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If your printer is going to be dealing with hard copy (printout), then
I
don't see any reason not to make the covers a separate document. One
more
print job for you, but you can still give the printer the whole thing
as a
package. If you're printing to PDF, you can combine the two documents
in
Acrobat, I believe. Alternatively, if your printer will accept PDF, why
not
just send the whole job to him and let him take care of the imposition?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in message
...
Since you can have different headers and footers for the first page
only,
I
had to use sections to separate the Covers (front and back: inside
and
outside) from the main body of the book since I don't want page
numbers on
them.

I don't want section numbers in the page number either, so is there
another
way to set up the document to achieve my goal or am I just stuck with
the
way
it is (as far as page numbering and printing go)? Should I put the
covers
in
a separate document?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you have section breaks, it becomes more complicated; then you
have
to
include the section number with the page number.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in message
...
I tried that and it works...sort of. First let me say that not
all my
pages
are not numbered numbered: the outside cover=1, inside cover=2 on
status
bar
and the Table of Contents(TOC)=3 on status bar are all not
numbered in
the
footer. Numbered pages: #2=4 on status bar, #3=5 and #4=6.

I entered 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 in the print popup. The resulting 6
sheets
that
printed are as follows:

Cov Cov
Inside Cov TOC
page #d 2 Inside Cov
TOC page #d 2
Page #'d 3 Page #'d 3
Page #'d 4 Page #'d 4

Does that make sense? I could send you an image of the pages, if
you
like
but I don't see any place to attach files and could not paste it
into
this
message.

Thanks.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

To print this way, you don't want to use "Book fold" at all.
Instead,
just
create each page once, using the "2 pages per sheet" selection
in
Page
Setup
(not the one in the Print dialog). This will give you your half
pages.
Then,
in the Print dialog, print Pages 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, etc. It may
require
more
than one print run to get them all, as there's some finite
limit to
how
many
page numbers you can put in the Pages box.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in
message
...
I've created a 64 page booklet using bookfold. If it's
printed as
is,
to
do
the punch and bind, the printer will have to trim not only
the
right
(outside) side to make it even but trim off some on the left
(inside).
I
want
to have it printed it as follows:

1st sheet
Front Back
page 1 page 1 page 2 page 2

2nd sheet
page 3 page 3 page 4 page 4
and so on. The end product would be cut in half, making 2
booklets.

Is printing it this way a function of the printer or of MS
Word?
If
the
latter, how do I set this up?

Thanks in advance for any help!!

I agree this is cumbersome. Word's "booklet" capability is limited to
printing a folded booklet. Although such booklets can be printed as is, cut
in half, and punched and bound, that would not be as straightforward as what
you describe.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"TxWeezie" wrote in message
...
By "2 up" I mean:
Side 1, 1st sheet: 1 1
Side 2, 1st sheet: 2 2
Side 1, 2nd sheet: 3 3
Side 2, 2nd sheet: 4 4
and so until the last two pages, with odd number pages occupying the first
side and even number pages occupying the second side.

This enables the print shop to use the full 8 1/2" x 11" sheet, which are
cut in half thus creating 2 full documents which can be bound with spiral
or
with spines.

My print shop ending up importing into another sofware that allows "2-up"
printing, the pdf file i sent them, but I just thought MS might have found
a
way to do that.

Going the route of "1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4" for 70 pages seems a bit cumbersome.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Depends what you mean by "2 up." You can print two pages per sheet (i.e.,
reduced) through the Print dialog, and you can can create a document as
two
pages per sheet by selecting this under "Multiple pages" on the Margins
tab
of page setup. If you want duplicate pages, you must either create the
page
twice or print it twice (by selecting, say, 1,1 for the Pages setting in
the
Print dialog). If you want to create a page once and automatically print
it
twice (or more), you need to use Publisher.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"TxWeezie" wrote in message
...
Over a year has past and I'm just wondering if Microsoft has ever
addressed
this issue - of being able to print a document "2 up"? According to my
printer, there are other softwares in which you can print 2 up and I
don't
understand why Microsoft cannot include that function in Word.

"TXWeezie" wrote:

Sorry, just now getting back to my document. Thanks for your help,
Suzanne. I
think I will take it to the printer and let him deal with it.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If your printer is going to be dealing with hard copy (printout),
then
I
don't see any reason not to make the covers a separate document. One
more
print job for you, but you can still give the printer the whole
thing
as a
package. If you're printing to PDF, you can combine the two
documents
in
Acrobat, I believe. Alternatively, if your printer will accept PDF,
why
not
just send the whole job to him and let him take care of the
imposition?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in message
...
Since you can have different headers and footers for the first
page
only,
I
had to use sections to separate the Covers (front and back: inside
and
outside) from the main body of the book since I don't want page
numbers on
them.

I don't want section numbers in the page number either, so is
there
another
way to set up the document to achieve my goal or am I just stuck
with
the
way
it is (as far as page numbering and printing go)? Should I put the
covers
in
a separate document?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you have section breaks, it becomes more complicated; then
you
have
to
include the section number with the page number.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in message
...
I tried that and it works...sort of. First let me say that not
all my
pages
are not numbered numbered: the outside cover=1, inside cover=2
on
status
bar
and the Table of Contents(TOC)=3 on status bar are all not
numbered in
the
footer. Numbered pages: #2=4 on status bar, #3=5 and #4=6.

I entered 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 in the print popup. The resulting 6
sheets
that
printed are as follows:

Cov Cov
Inside Cov TOC
page #d 2 Inside Cov
TOC page #d 2
Page #'d 3 Page #'d 3
Page #'d 4 Page #'d 4

Does that make sense? I could send you an image of the pages,
if
you
like
but I don't see any place to attach files and could not paste
it
into
this
message.

Thanks.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

To print this way, you don't want to use "Book fold" at all.
Instead,
just
create each page once, using the "2 pages per sheet"
selection
in
Page
Setup
(not the one in the Print dialog). This will give you your
half
pages.
Then,
in the Print dialog, print Pages 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, etc. It
may
require
more
than one print run to get them all, as there's some finite
limit to
how
many
page numbers you can put in the Pages box.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in
message
...
I've created a 64 page booklet using bookfold. If it's
printed as
is,
to
do
the punch and bind, the printer will have to trim not only
the
right
(outside) side to make it even but trim off some on the
left
(inside).
I
want
to have it printed it as follows:

1st sheet
Front Back
page 1 page 1 page 2 page 2

2nd sheet
page 3 page 3 page 4 page 4
and so on. The end product would be cut in half, making 2
booklets.

Is printing it this way a function of the printer or of MS
Word?
If
the
latter, how do I set this up?

Thanks in advance for any help!!

Wow, what a headach that would be...unless you could have a colored sheet
inbetween each copy of the book! You're right no easy way out!

Thanks for the help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I agree this is cumbersome. Word's "booklet" capability is limited to
printing a folded booklet. Although such booklets can be printed as is, cut
in half, and punched and bound, that would not be as straightforward as what
you describe.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"TxWeezie" wrote in message
...
By "2 up" I mean:
Side 1, 1st sheet: 1 1
Side 2, 1st sheet: 2 2
Side 1, 2nd sheet: 3 3
Side 2, 2nd sheet: 4 4
and so until the last two pages, with odd number pages occupying the first
side and even number pages occupying the second side.

This enables the print shop to use the full 8 1/2" x 11" sheet, which are
cut in half thus creating 2 full documents which can be bound with spiral
or
with spines.

My print shop ending up importing into another sofware that allows "2-up"
printing, the pdf file i sent them, but I just thought MS might have found
a
way to do that.

Going the route of "1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4" for 70 pages seems a bit cumbersome.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Depends what you mean by "2 up." You can print two pages per sheet (i.e.,
reduced) through the Print dialog, and you can can create a document as
two
pages per sheet by selecting this under "Multiple pages" on the Margins
tab
of page setup. If you want duplicate pages, you must either create the
page
twice or print it twice (by selecting, say, 1,1 for the Pages setting in
the
Print dialog). If you want to create a page once and automatically print
it
twice (or more), you need to use Publisher.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"TxWeezie" wrote in message
...
Over a year has past and I'm just wondering if Microsoft has ever
addressed
this issue - of being able to print a document "2 up"? According to my
printer, there are other softwares in which you can print 2 up and I
don't
understand why Microsoft cannot include that function in Word.

"TXWeezie" wrote:

Sorry, just now getting back to my document. Thanks for your help,
Suzanne. I
think I will take it to the printer and let him deal with it.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If your printer is going to be dealing with hard copy (printout),
then
I
don't see any reason not to make the covers a separate document. One
more
print job for you, but you can still give the printer the whole
thing
as a
package. If you're printing to PDF, you can combine the two
documents
in
Acrobat, I believe. Alternatively, if your printer will accept PDF,
why
not
just send the whole job to him and let him take care of the
imposition?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in message
...
Since you can have different headers and footers for the first
page
only,
I
had to use sections to separate the Covers (front and back: inside
and
outside) from the main body of the book since I don't want page
numbers on
them.

I don't want section numbers in the page number either, so is
there
another
way to set up the document to achieve my goal or am I just stuck
with
the
way
it is (as far as page numbering and printing go)? Should I put the
covers
in
a separate document?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you have section breaks, it becomes more complicated; then
you
have
to
include the section number with the page number.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in message
...
I tried that and it works...sort of. First let me say that not
all my
pages
are not numbered numbered: the outside cover=1, inside cover=2
on
status
bar
and the Table of Contents(TOC)=3 on status bar are all not
numbered in
the
footer. Numbered pages: #2=4 on status bar, #3=5 and #4=6.

I entered 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4 in the print popup. The resulting 6
sheets
that
printed are as follows:

Cov Cov
Inside Cov TOC
page #d 2 Inside Cov
TOC page #d 2
Page #'d 3 Page #'d 3
Page #'d 4 Page #'d 4

Does that make sense? I could send you an image of the pages,
if
you
like
but I don't see any place to attach files and could not paste
it
into
this
message.

Thanks.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

To print this way, you don't want to use "Book fold" at all.
Instead,
just
create each page once, using the "2 pages per sheet"
selection
in
Page
Setup
(not the one in the Print dialog). This will give you your
half
pages.
Then,
in the Print dialog, print Pages 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, etc. It
may
require
more
than one print run to get them all, as there's some finite
limit to
how
many
page numbers you can put in the Pages box.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"TXWeezie" wrote in
message
...
I've created a 64 page booklet using bookfold. If it's
printed as
is,
to
do
the punch and bind, the printer will have to trim not only
the
right
(outside) side to make it even but trim off some on the
left
(inside).
I
want
to have it printed it as follows:

1st sheet
Front Back
page 1 page 1 page 2 page 2

2nd sheet
page 3 page 3 page 4 page 4
and so on. The end product would be cut in half, making 2
booklets.

Is printing it this way a function of the printer or of MS
Word?
If
the
latter, how do I set this up?

Thanks in advance for any help!!