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Old August 13th, 2009, 12:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Unwanted page break in Word

Have you edited the footnote separator? See
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/NoteSeparators.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Robert Harris-Stoertz" wrote in message
...
You guys didn't solve this one, did you?

I seem to have the same problem in a single, possibly corrupted,
document, using Word 2007.

After inserting a single footnote, the footnote space on all preceding
pages occupies nearly the entire page, leaving barely room for a line
of text between the header and the footnote space. The footnote itself
is positioned at the bottom of the space, visually where it should be,
but the space above it is occupied by a bunch of paragraph marks that
cannot be selected. These paragraph marks do not appear on the
preceding pages. Pages following are not affected.

A single footnote appears capable of turning a ten-page document into
hundreds of pages.

If I insert a second footnote, it again has all the inaccessible
paragraph marks above it.

If I select the whole document using CTRL+A and paste into a new blank
document, it works correctly in the new document. Even if the
selection included the messed-up footnotes, they appears correctly
when pasted into a blank document.

If I use CTRL+A and delete the document contents, then insert a
footnote, it is not correct. If I delete header and footer contents
with CTRL+X, and insert a footnote, it is not correct. If I use REMOVE
HEADER and REMOVE FOOTER, footnotes are still wrong.

If I save as Word 97-2003 or RTF, footnotes are not correct.

All I can conclude is the document is corrupted somehow.

Robert



On Aug 6, 12:58 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
If so, seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/NoteSeparators.htm

--
Suzanne S. BarnhillMicrosoftMVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message

news
So let's confirm what you are observing...


Thepagebreaksin the middle where aFOOTNOTEline appears and the
FOOTNOTEline is a long way above theFootnoteitself?


Terry


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Further to last, checked the footer and there is nothing untoward
there -
no
additonal paragraph marks.


"Terry Farrell" wrote:


Ah! Open the Footer with non-printing characters displayed. I bet
there
is
an empty box or empty parabreaksin the footer.


Terry


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Thank you Terry but that is not the reason. I have checked this. At
a
certain point - about mid-page- it doesn't matter whether it is in
the
middle of a paragraph or at the end of a paragraph on all pages in
the
document, except for the firstpage, the text goes to the following
page.
If
there is a footer, the footer line appears at the mid -pagepoint but
the
footer still goes to the bottom of thepage. I have disiplayed the
formatting at the end of the line, on the paragraph mark etc and
cannot
see
anything abnormal. There is nothing in thepagesetup that could
cause it
either. I noted in another post you mentioned, I think, displaying
hidden
characters or something similar by increasing magnification of the
page
but I
don't know how to do this. Wordversion is 2003.


"Terry Farrell" wrote:


There are many reasons but the most common is that the paragraphs
have
been
formatted with Keep Lines Together (possibly Keep with Next) and
are
therefore breaking across thepagein order to keep together.


--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Have a document that is breaking mid way in thepageand not at the
end
of
a
paragraph. Widow and orphan control is checked. Line spacing is
set
to
Multiple - 1.2. I have tried pasting format from firstpagein
document
wherepagebreak is normal but this doesn't work. The problem is
occurring
through the document apart from the firstpage. i have checked the
formatting in the style bar but there is nothing untoward
showing.



  #12  
Old August 13th, 2009, 06:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Robert Harris-Stoertz
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Default Unwanted page break in Word

Thank you, Suzanne!

You are precisely right that the footnote separator had been edited.
Sorry you had to give the same reference twice. The unwanted paragraph
marks were below the separator line, and must have been added as a
work-around not by me or even the person I am helping, but by some
unknown person in the past. These sorts of problems are picked up when
we trade documents between organizations and use them as templates for
unrelated purposes.

I have been using your excellent help for quite a few years now, and
feel like I practically know you.

All the best!
Robert

On Aug 12, 7:04*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Have you edited the footnote separator? Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/NoteSeparators.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Robert Harris-Stoertz" wrote in message

...
You guys didn't solve this one, did you?

I seem to have the same problem in a single, possibly corrupted,
document, using Word 2007.

After inserting a single footnote, the footnote space on all preceding
pages occupies nearly the entire page, leaving barely room for a line
of text between the header and the footnote space. The footnote itself
is positioned at the bottom of the space, visually where it should be,
but the space above it is occupied by a bunch of paragraph marks that
cannot be selected. These paragraph marks do not appear on the
preceding pages. Pages following are not affected.

A single footnote appears capable of turning a ten-page document into
hundreds of pages.

If I insert a second footnote, it again has all the inaccessible
paragraph marks above it.

If I select the whole document using CTRL+A and paste into a new blank
document, it works correctly in the new document. Even if the
selection included the messed-up footnotes, they appears correctly
when pasted into a blank document.

If I use CTRL+A and delete the document contents, then insert a
footnote, it is not correct. If I delete header and footer contents
with CTRL+X, and insert a footnote, it is not correct. If I use REMOVE
HEADER and REMOVE FOOTER, footnotes are still wrong.

If I save as Word 97-2003 or RTF, footnotes are not correct.

All I can conclude is the document is corrupted somehow.

Robert

On Aug 6, 12:58 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If so, seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/NoteSeparators.htm


--
Suzanne S. BarnhillMicrosoftMVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message


news


So let's confirm what you are observing...


Thepagebreaksin the middle where aFOOTNOTEline appears and the
FOOTNOTEline is a long way above theFootnoteitself?


Terry


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Further to last, checked the footer and there is nothing untoward
there -
no
additonal paragraph marks.


"Terry Farrell" wrote:


Ah! Open the Footer with non-printing characters displayed. I bet
there
is
an empty box or empty parabreaksin the footer.


Terry


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Thank you Terry but that is not the reason. I have checked this. At
a
certain point - about mid-page- it doesn't matter whether it is in
the
middle of a paragraph or at the end of a paragraph on all pages in
the
document, except for the firstpage, the text goes to the following
page.
If
there is a footer, the footer line appears at the mid -pagepoint but
the
footer still goes to the bottom of thepage. I have disiplayed the
formatting at the end of the line, on the paragraph mark etc and
cannot
see
anything abnormal. There is nothing in thepagesetup that could
cause it
either. I noted in another post you mentioned, I think, displaying
hidden
characters or something similar by increasing magnification of the
page
but I
don't know how to do this. Wordversion is 2003.


"Terry Farrell" wrote:


There are many reasons but the most common is that the paragraphs
have
been
formatted with Keep Lines Together (possibly Keep with Next) and
are
therefore breaking across thepagein order to keep together.


--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Have a document that is breaking mid way in thepageand not at the
end
of
a
paragraph. Widow and orphan control is checked. Line spacing is
set
to
Multiple - 1.2. I have tried pasting format from firstpagein
document
wherepagebreak is normal but this doesn't work. The problem is
occurring
through the document apart from the firstpage. i have checked the
formatting in the style bar but there is nothing untoward
showing.


  #13  
Old August 13th, 2009, 08:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Unwanted page break in Word

I'm glad that worked for you. I wasn't aware that I'd given the same
reference twice--we were out of the country for three weeks, so there were a
lot of dropped threads when we got back.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Robert Harris-Stoertz" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Suzanne!

You are precisely right that the footnote separator had been edited.
Sorry you had to give the same reference twice. The unwanted paragraph
marks were below the separator line, and must have been added as a
work-around not by me or even the person I am helping, but by some
unknown person in the past. These sorts of problems are picked up when
we trade documents between organizations and use them as templates for
unrelated purposes.

I have been using your excellent help for quite a few years now, and
feel like I practically know you.

All the best!
Robert

On Aug 12, 7:04 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Have you edited the footnote separator?
Seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/NoteSeparators.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Robert Harris-Stoertz" wrote in message

...
You guys didn't solve this one, did you?

I seem to have the same problem in a single, possibly corrupted,
document, using Word 2007.

After inserting a single footnote, the footnote space on all preceding
pages occupies nearly the entire page, leaving barely room for a line
of text between the header and the footnote space. The footnote itself
is positioned at the bottom of the space, visually where it should be,
but the space above it is occupied by a bunch of paragraph marks that
cannot be selected. These paragraph marks do not appear on the
preceding pages. Pages following are not affected.

A single footnote appears capable of turning a ten-page document into
hundreds of pages.

If I insert a second footnote, it again has all the inaccessible
paragraph marks above it.

If I select the whole document using CTRL+A and paste into a new blank
document, it works correctly in the new document. Even if the
selection included the messed-up footnotes, they appears correctly
when pasted into a blank document.

If I use CTRL+A and delete the document contents, then insert a
footnote, it is not correct. If I delete header and footer contents
with CTRL+X, and insert a footnote, it is not correct. If I use REMOVE
HEADER and REMOVE FOOTER, footnotes are still wrong.

If I save as Word 97-2003 or RTF, footnotes are not correct.

All I can conclude is the document is corrupted somehow.

Robert

On Aug 6, 12:58 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If so, seehttp://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/NoteSeparators.htm


--
Suzanne S. BarnhillMicrosoftMVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message


news


So let's confirm what you are observing...


Thepagebreaksin the middle where aFOOTNOTEline appears and the
FOOTNOTEline is a long way above theFootnoteitself?


Terry


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Further to last, checked the footer and there is nothing untoward
there -
no
additonal paragraph marks.


"Terry Farrell" wrote:


Ah! Open the Footer with non-printing characters displayed. I bet
there
is
an empty box or empty parabreaksin the footer.


Terry


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Thank you Terry but that is not the reason. I have checked this.
At
a
certain point - about mid-page- it doesn't matter whether it is in
the
middle of a paragraph or at the end of a paragraph on all pages in
the
document, except for the firstpage, the text goes to the following
page.
If
there is a footer, the footer line appears at the mid -pagepoint
but
the
footer still goes to the bottom of thepage. I have disiplayed the
formatting at the end of the line, on the paragraph mark etc and
cannot
see
anything abnormal. There is nothing in thepagesetup that could
cause it
either. I noted in another post you mentioned, I think, displaying
hidden
characters or something similar by increasing magnification of the
page
but I
don't know how to do this. Wordversion is 2003.


"Terry Farrell" wrote:


There are many reasons but the most common is that the paragraphs
have
been
formatted with Keep Lines Together (possibly Keep with Next) and
are
therefore breaking across thepagein order to keep together.


--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP


"Bolalia" wrote in message
...
Have a document that is breaking mid way in thepageand not at
the
end
of
a
paragraph. Widow and orphan control is checked. Line spacing is
set
to
Multiple - 1.2. I have tried pasting format from firstpagein
document
wherepagebreak is normal but this doesn't work. The problem is
occurring
through the document apart from the firstpage. i have checked
the
formatting in the style bar but there is nothing untoward
showing.


 




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