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  #11  
Old October 1st, 2006, 06:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
N. Miller
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Posts: 1,481
Default Outgoing email blocked

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:44:12 +0100, Bill Ridgeway wrote:

Sorry but I've lost you.

The situation is my Client has an account with BT which blocks email being
sent out using his email address AND so that
recipients see emails as having been received from
?
The options seems to be -

1. Do nothing - having a discrete domain is not a good option
2. Change ISP - not a viable option
3. Subscribe to a relay server - will recipients see the email as coming
from

4. Any other way?

No.3 may be a runner but only if its satisfies both element of the
requirement.
No.4 who knows what anyone may come up with

Is that summary more -or-less correct?


See my post about consulting with your client's hosting provider. If the
client's hosting provider will allow connection to their SMTP server
through another port than port 25, you just have to configure MSOE for
that other port, and SSL, if requires. Alas, MSOE will only perform
STARTTLS (aka, "TLS") on port 25. Don't confuse SSL and TLS; they _are_
different.

If not, consider the following examples:

Yahoo! Mail 'smtp.mail.yahoo.com:587':

| Return-Path:
| Received: from rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (rly-xb06.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.52])
| by air-xb01.mail.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id MAILINXB14-6cb451f465f25d;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:39:06 -0400
| Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.237])
| by rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB69-6cb451f465f25d;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:38:56 -0400
| Received: (qmail 90979 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 04:38:55 -0000
| Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.102.31?) with login)
| by smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006 04:38:54 -0000
| From: "N. Miller"
| Organization: Yahoo! Mail
| To:
| Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:38:45 -0700
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Subject: [TEST] Using the Yahoo! Mail servers

My Japanese is weak, and I didn't have time to work out how to configure
'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp' to accept non-domain email. It can be done, and
should be possible with 'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk' as well. It doesn't show
here because I use a Yahoo! Public Profile ID (hard2findanamenotused)
for the log in. With just the email address, it would have shown,
with login)". But you don't see that
email address as the Return-Path, or the sender; those are "
email addresses.

With 'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk', I imagine that your client will have to
configure his email address as an authorized sender. The Yahoo! UK
account should still offer free access to the SMTP server for just
subscribing to Yahoo! Delivers; that is how I got access to
'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp'. Port 587 must be used when port 25 is blocked.

GMail 'smtp.gmail.com:587':

| Return-Path:
| Received: from rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (rly-yg04.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.82])
| by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id MAILINYG31-289451f47172b4;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:42:02 -0400
| Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232])
| by rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYG49-289451f47172b4;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:41:59 -0400
| Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so1322389wxc
| for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
| DomainKey-Signatu a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
| s=beta; d=gmail.com;
| h=received:fromrganization:to:date:mime-version:subject:message-idriority:x-mailer:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-description:sender;
| b=b4+OsS25QLhyEF8kDtb3XysMWZuGTLgvBSjwT+17CN2s80vv XKn54V5ZdJYmihMJZMU/5tQ5vqtVLvLEJfinPD7R1h8nbp1wZm8J5vNG4TEKxaayqv5Mk2 z2Fl4cvAR0TdUrlVthnfa9e1iT0jhVd8wg6a2tmYaZiP4GzxgF seE=
| Received: by 10.70.40.1 with SMTP id n1mr3926152wxn;
| Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
| Received: from gmail.com ( [69.227.43.68])
| by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 28sm292375wrl.2006.09.30.21.41.56;
| Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
| From: "N. Miller"
| Organization: Google Mail System
| To:
| Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:46 -0700
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Subject: [TEST] Using the GMail servers.

Although the Return-Path is the GMail account email address, all the
recipient sees for the sender is the " email address; as
well, that is the email address to which a reply will be sent.

With MSOE unable to use STARTTLS (TLS) on port 587, your client would
have to configure MSOE to use port 465 with SSL. As with Yahoo! Japan,
GMail also requires configuring a non-GMail domain as an authorized
sender before trying to use it so.

GMail is free, but requires an invitation.

Frankly, getting alternate port access through the hosting service would
be a superior solution. Your client is paying for the service, the
provider should offer the service.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
  #12  
Old October 3rd, 2006, 02:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Bill Ridgeway
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Posts: 387
Default Outgoing email blocked

I posted this on 30/09 but, unfortunately didn't get a reply.

Frank,
Sorry but I've lost you.

The situation is my Client has an account with BT which blocks email being
sent out using his email address AND so that
recipients see emails as having been received from
?
The options seems to be -

1. Do nothing - having a discrete domain is not a good option
2. Change ISP - not a viable option
3. Subscribe to a relay server - will recipients see the email as coming
from

4. Any other way?

No.3 may be a runner but only if its satisfies both element of the
requirement.
No.4 who knows what anyone may come up with

Is that summary more -or-less correct?

I am not clear on what you meant and would appreciate some clarification

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
They'll see what's in the From field, but a reply will still go to
ReplyTo. I can see the problem here in that they might :correct: their
Address Book. On the other hand, with OE if you have something tin the
Name field of the account then they won't see the email address.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
It has been suggested that one way around this problem is to use an
email relay server. I don't know how these work. Presumably you send
email to them and they send it on. My question is, do recipients see
the source as being the ISP domain ), my email host server
) or the email relay server
)?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from
anything other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send
email using a domain hosted elsewhere.

I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a
way around it?

If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and
would be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions







  #13  
Old October 3rd, 2006, 04:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
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Posts: 1,197
Default Outgoing email blocked

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I posted this on 30/09 but, unfortunately didn't get a reply.

Frank,
Sorry but I've lost you.

The situation is my Client has an account with BT which blocks email being
sent out using his email address AND so that
recipients see emails as having been received from
?
The options seems to be -

1. Do nothing - having a discrete domain is not a good option
2. Change ISP - not a viable option
3. Subscribe to a relay server - will recipients see the email as coming
from

4. Any other way?

No.3 may be a runner but only if its satisfies both element of the
requirement.
No.4 who knows what anyone may come up with

Is that summary more -or-less correct?

I am not clear on what you meant and would appreciate some clarification


Outlook Express does not show the email address if he has filled in the Name
field for the account. However, it will use that address if the recipient
right clicks and elects to add the sender to the Address Book. I guess the
only way I can think around the problem is to have an account where you can
use the SMTP server through a different port. Norman has written about
that, but the SMTP server I use uses a different port than the ones he
mentions from the RFC.

I really don't know why he doesn't want to use the ISP's mail account.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.


  #14  
Old October 4th, 2006, 01:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
urska
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Posts: 16
Default Outgoing email blocked


"N. Miller" je napisal v sporocilo
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:44:12 +0100, Bill Ridgeway wrote:

Sorry but I've lost you.

The situation is my Client has an account with BT which blocks email
being
sent out using his email address AND so that
recipients see emails as having been received from
?
The options seems to be -

1. Do nothing - having a discrete domain is not a good option
2. Change ISP - not a viable option
3. Subscribe to a relay server - will recipients see the email as coming
from

4. Any other way?

No.3 may be a runner but only if its satisfies both element of the
requirement.
No.4 who knows what anyone may come up with

Is that summary more -or-less correct?


See my post about consulting with your client's hosting provider. If the
client's hosting provider will allow connection to their SMTP server
through another port than port 25, you just have to configure MSOE for
that other port, and SSL, if requires. Alas, MSOE will only perform
STARTTLS (aka, "TLS") on port 25. Don't confuse SSL and TLS; they _are_
different.

If not, consider the following examples:

Yahoo! Mail 'smtp.mail.yahoo.com:587':

| Return-Path:
| Received: from rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (rly-xb06.mail.aol.com
[172.20.64.52])
| by air-xb01.mail.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILINXB14-6cb451f465f25d;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:39:06 -0400
| Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com
(smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.237])
| by rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILRELAYINXB69-6cb451f465f25d;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:38:56 -0400
| Received: (qmail 90979 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 04:38:55 -0000
| Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.102.31?)
with login)
| by smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006
04:38:54 -0000
| From: "N. Miller"
| Organization: Yahoo! Mail
| To:
| Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:38:45 -0700
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Subject: [TEST] Using the Yahoo! Mail servers

My Japanese is weak, and I didn't have time to work out how to configure
'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp' to accept non-domain email. It can be done, and
should be possible with 'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk' as well. It doesn't show
here because I use a Yahoo! Public Profile ID (hard2findanamenotused)
for the log in. With just the email address, it would have shown,
with login)". But you don't see that
email address as the Return-Path, or the sender; those are "
email addresses.

With 'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk', I imagine that your client will have to
configure his email address as an authorized sender. The Yahoo! UK
account should still offer free access to the SMTP server for just
subscribing to Yahoo! Delivers; that is how I got access to
'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp'. Port 587 must be used when port 25 is blocked.

GMail 'smtp.gmail.com:587':

| Return-Path:
| Received: from rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (rly-yg04.mail.aol.com
[172.18.180.82])
| by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILINYG31-289451f47172b4;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:42:02 -0400
| Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com
[66.249.82.232])
| by rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILRELAYINYG49-289451f47172b4;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:41:59 -0400
| Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so1322389wxc
| for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
| DomainKey-Signatu a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
| s=beta; d=gmail.com;
|
h=received:fromrganization:to:date:mime-version:subject:message-idriority:x-mailer:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-description:sender;
|
b=b4+OsS25QLhyEF8kDtb3XysMWZuGTLgvBSjwT+17CN2s80vv XKn54V5ZdJYmihMJZMU/5tQ5vqtVLvLEJfinPD7R1h8nbp1wZm8J5vNG4TEKxaayqv5Mk2 z2Fl4cvAR0TdUrlVthnfa9e1iT0jhVd8wg6a2tmYaZiP4GzxgF seE=
| Received: by 10.70.40.1 with SMTP id n1mr3926152wxn;
| Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
| Received: from gmail.com ( [69.227.43.68])
| by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 28sm292375wrl.2006.09.30.21.41.56;
| Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
| From: "N. Miller"
| Organization: Google Mail System
| To:
| Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:46 -0700
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Subject: [TEST] Using the GMail servers.

Although the Return-Path is the GMail account email address, all the
recipient sees for the sender is the " email address; as
well, that is the email address to which a reply will be sent.

With MSOE unable to use STARTTLS (TLS) on port 587, your client would
have to configure MSOE to use port 465 with SSL. As with Yahoo! Japan,
GMail also requires configuring a non-GMail domain as an authorized
sender before trying to use it so.

GMail is free, but requires an invitation.

Frankly, getting alternate port access through the hosting service would
be a superior solution. Your client is paying for the service, the
provider should offer the service.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum



  #15  
Old October 6th, 2006, 07:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
tatuya shibata
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Outgoing email blocked


"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I posted this on 30/09 but, unfortunately didn't get a reply.

Frank,
Sorry but I've lost you.

The situation is my Client has an account with BT which blocks email being
sent out using his email address AND so that
recipients see emails as having been received from
?
The options seems to be -

1. Do nothing - having a discrete domain is not a good option
2. Change ISP - not a viable option
3. Subscribe to a relay server - will recipients see the email as coming
from

4. Any other way?

No.3 may be a runner but only if its satisfies both element of the
requirement.
No.4 who knows what anyone may come up with

Is that summary more -or-less correct?

I am not clear on what you meant and would appreciate some clarification

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
...
They'll see what's in the From field, but a reply will still go to
ReplyTo. I can see the problem here in that they might :correct: their
Address Book. On the other hand, with OE if you have something tin the
Name field of the account then they won't see the email address.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
It has been suggested that one way around this problem is to use an
email relay server. I don't know how these work. Presumably you send
email to them and they send it on. My question is, do recipients see
the source as being the ISP domain ), my email host server
) or the email relay server
)?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from
anything other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send
email using a domain hosted elsewhere.

I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a
way around it?

If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and
would be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions








  #16  
Old October 7th, 2006, 11:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
WILLI
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Outgoing email blocked


"urska" www. сообщил/сообщила в новостях следующее:
...

"N. Miller" je napisal v sporocilo
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:44:12 +0100, Bill Ridgeway wrote:

Sorry but I've lost you.

The situation is my Client has an account with BT which blocks email
being
sent out using his email address AND so that
recipients see emails as having been received from
?
The options seems to be -

1. Do nothing - having a discrete domain is not a good option
2. Change ISP - not a viable option
3. Subscribe to a relay server - will recipients see the email as coming
from

4. Any other way?

No.3 may be a runner but only if its satisfies both element of the
requirement.
No.4 who knows what anyone may come up with

Is that summary more -or-less correct?


See my post about consulting with your client's hosting provider. If the
client's hosting provider will allow connection to their SMTP server
through another port than port 25, you just have to configure MSOE for
that other port, and SSL, if requires. Alas, MSOE will only perform
STARTTLS (aka, "TLS") on port 25. Don't confuse SSL and TLS; they _are_
different.

If not, consider the following examples:

Yahoo! Mail 'smtp.mail.yahoo.com:587':

| Return-Path:
| Received: from rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (rly-xb06.mail.aol.com
[172.20.64.52])
| by air-xb01.mail.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILINXB14-6cb451f465f25d;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:39:06 -0400
| Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com
(smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.237])
| by rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILRELAYINXB69-6cb451f465f25d;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:38:56 -0400
| Received: (qmail 90979 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 04:38:55 -0000
| Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.102.31?)
with login)
| by smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006
04:38:54 -0000
| From: "N. Miller"
| Organization: Yahoo! Mail
| To:
| Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:38:45 -0700
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Subject: [TEST] Using the Yahoo! Mail servers

My Japanese is weak, and I didn't have time to work out how to configure
'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp' to accept non-domain email. It can be done, and
should be possible with 'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk' as well. It doesn't show
here because I use a Yahoo! Public Profile ID (hard2findanamenotused)
for the log in. With just the email address, it would have shown,
with login)". But you don't see that
email address as the Return-Path, or the sender; those are "
email addresses.

With 'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk', I imagine that your client will have to
configure his email address as an authorized sender. The Yahoo! UK
account should still offer free access to the SMTP server for just
subscribing to Yahoo! Delivers; that is how I got access to
'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp'. Port 587 must be used when port 25 is blocked.

GMail 'smtp.gmail.com:587':

| Return-Path:
| Received: from rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (rly-yg04.mail.aol.com
[172.18.180.82])
| by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILINYG31-289451f47172b4;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:42:02 -0400
| Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com
[66.249.82.232])
| by rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILRELAYINYG49-289451f47172b4;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:41:59 -0400
| Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so1322389wxc
| for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
| DomainKey-Signatu a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
| s=beta; d=gmail.com;
|
h=received:fromrganization:to:date:mime-version:subject:message-idriority:x-mailer:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-description:sender;
|
b=b4+OsS25QLhyEF8kDtb3XysMWZuGTLgvBSjwT+17CN2s80vv XKn54V5ZdJYmihMJZMU/5tQ5vqtVLvLEJfinPD7R1h8nbp1wZm8J5vNG4TEKxaayqv5Mk2 z2Fl4cvAR0TdUrlVthnfa9e1iT0jhVd8wg6a2tmYaZiP4GzxgF seE=
| Received: by 10.70.40.1 with SMTP id n1mr3926152wxn;
| Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
| Received: from gmail.com ( [69.227.43.68])
| by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id
28sm292375wrl.2006.09.30.21.41.56;
| Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
| From: "N. Miller"
| Organization: Google Mail System
| To:
| Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:46 -0700
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Subject: [TEST] Using the GMail servers.

Although the Return-Path is the GMail account email address, all the
recipient sees for the sender is the " email address; as
well, that is the email address to which a reply will be sent.

With MSOE unable to use STARTTLS (TLS) on port 587, your client would
have to configure MSOE to use port 465 with SSL. As with Yahoo! Japan,
GMail also requires configuring a non-GMail domain as an authorized
sender before trying to use it so.

GMail is free, but requires an invitation.

Frankly, getting alternate port access through the hosting service would
be a superior solution. Your client is paying for the service, the
provider should offer the service.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum





  #17  
Old October 8th, 2006, 01:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Mary Taylor
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 18
Default Outgoing email blocked


"urska" www. wrote in message
...

"N. Miller" je napisal v sporocilo
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:44:12 +0100, Bill Ridgeway wrote:

Sorry but I've lost you.

The situation is my Client has an account with BT which blocks email
being
sent out using his email address AND so that
recipients see emails as having been received from
?
The options seems to be -

1. Do nothing - having a discrete domain is not a good option
2. Change ISP - not a viable option
3. Subscribe to a relay server - will recipients see the email as coming
from

4. Any other way?

No.3 may be a runner but only if its satisfies both element of the
requirement.
No.4 who knows what anyone may come up with

Is that summary more -or-less correct?


See my post about consulting with your client's hosting provider. If the
client's hosting provider will allow connection to their SMTP server
through another port than port 25, you just have to configure MSOE for
that other port, and SSL, if requires. Alas, MSOE will only perform
STARTTLS (aka, "TLS") on port 25. Don't confuse SSL and TLS; they _are_
different.

If not, consider the following examples:

Yahoo! Mail 'smtp.mail.yahoo.com:587':

| Return-Path:
| Received: from rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (rly-xb06.mail.aol.com
[172.20.64.52])
| by air-xb01.mail.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILINXB14-6cb451f465f25d;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:39:06 -0400
| Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com
(smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.237])
| by rly-xb06.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILRELAYINXB69-6cb451f465f25d;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:38:56 -0400
| Received: (qmail 90979 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2006 04:38:55 -0000
| Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.102.31?)
with login)
| by smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2006
04:38:54 -0000
| From: "N. Miller"
| Organization: Yahoo! Mail
| To:
| Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:38:45 -0700
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Subject: [TEST] Using the Yahoo! Mail servers

My Japanese is weak, and I didn't have time to work out how to configure
'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp' to accept non-domain email. It can be done, and
should be possible with 'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk' as well. It doesn't show
here because I use a Yahoo! Public Profile ID (hard2findanamenotused)
for the log in. With just the email address, it would have shown,
with login)". But you don't see that
email address as the Return-Path, or the sender; those are "
email addresses.

With 'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk', I imagine that your client will have to
configure his email address as an authorized sender. The Yahoo! UK
account should still offer free access to the SMTP server for just
subscribing to Yahoo! Delivers; that is how I got access to
'smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp'. Port 587 must be used when port 25 is blocked.

GMail 'smtp.gmail.com:587':

| Return-Path:
| Received: from rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (rly-yg04.mail.aol.com
[172.18.180.82])
| by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILINYG31-289451f47172b4;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:42:02 -0400
| Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com
[66.249.82.232])
| by rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (v112_r1.5) with ESMTP id
MAILRELAYINYG49-289451f47172b4;
| Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:41:59 -0400
| Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so1322389wxc
| for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
| DomainKey-Signatu a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
| s=beta; d=gmail.com;
|
h=received:fromrganization:to:date:mime-version:subject:message-idriority:x-mailer:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-description:sender;
|
b=b4+OsS25QLhyEF8kDtb3XysMWZuGTLgvBSjwT+17CN2s80vv XKn54V5ZdJYmihMJZMU/5tQ5vqtVLvLEJfinPD7R1h8nbp1wZm8J5vNG4TEKxaayqv5Mk2 z2Fl4cvAR0TdUrlVthnfa9e1iT0jhVd8wg6a2tmYaZiP4GzxgF seE=
| Received: by 10.70.40.1 with SMTP id n1mr3926152wxn;
| Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT)
| Received: from gmail.com ( [69.227.43.68])
| by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id
28sm292375wrl.2006.09.30.21.41.56;
| Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
| From: "N. Miller"
| Organization: Google Mail System
| To:
| Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:46 -0700
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Subject: [TEST] Using the GMail servers.

Although the Return-Path is the GMail account email address, all the
recipient sees for the sender is the " email address; as
well, that is the email address to which a reply will be sent.

With MSOE unable to use STARTTLS (TLS) on port 587, your client would
have to configure MSOE to use port 465 with SSL. As with Yahoo! Japan,
GMail also requires configuring a non-GMail domain as an authorized
sender before trying to use it so.

GMail is free, but requires an invitation.

Frankly, getting alternate port access through the hosting service would
be a superior solution. Your client is paying for the service, the
provider should offer the service.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum





 




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