Date changing 2028....2029......1930???????

I know exactly what your talking about, same as what other people said, I
just found it strange how there is a cut off at 2029 thats all.
Thanks for the help you did give

John W. Vinson wrote:
Then you would have thought it would just stick to one and not change after
29 yrs
I still think it is stupid :-) lol

Think about it.

Do you want 06 to refer to 2006? Sure. That's last year.

Is it ok, then, to have 99 refer to 2099? Probably not; 1999 was only eight
years ago.

If you DO want all two-digit years to refer to 21st century dates, go for it:
follow the instructions elsewhere in the thread.

John W. Vinson [MVP]

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"Douglas J. Steele" wrote in
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Assuming you're using XP, go to Regional Settings in the Control
Panel, and click on the Customize button. Look on the date tab,
and you'll see what Windows is using as its instructions for
interpretting 2 digit years. (It's there for other versions of
Windows as well, but I can't guarantee that the instructions for
finding it are identical)

You can't really give instructions for WinXP any more for using
Control Panel, because they introduced the ridiculously useless
category view.

In Win2K, you just open the Regional Settings tool and go to the
Date tab. That's much simpler than your instructions. What, exactly,
did MS think they were improving by making it more complicated in
WinXP?

(this is exactly why I've always rejected WinXP -- it adds
complexity where none is needed, and tries to bleed it away (e.g.,
security) where it is essential)

In the Category view, "Date, Time, Language and Regional Options" is one of
the categories, and from there you can still choose the "Regional and
Language Options" icon. (You're right, though, that I could have been more
explicit, but like Rick I always switch to Classic View, so I sometimes
forget about the "alternative" approach)

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"Rick Brandt" wrote in
et:

David W. Fenton wrote:
"Douglas J. Steele" wrote in
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Assuming you're using XP, go to Regional Settings in the Control
Panel, and click on the Customize button. Look on the date tab,
and you'll see what Windows is using as its instructions for
interpretting 2 digit years. (It's there for other versions of
Windows as well, but I can't guarantee that the instructions for
finding it are identical)

You can't really give instructions for WinXP any more for using
Control Panel, because they introduced the ridiculously useless
category view.

In Win2K, you just open the Regional Settings tool and go to the
Date tab. That's much simpler than your instructions. What,
exactly, did MS think they were improving by making it more
complicated in WinXP?

(this is exactly why I've always rejected WinXP -- it adds
complexity where none is needed, and tries to bleed it away
(e.g., security) where it is essential)

First thing I do on every XP box is switch Control Panel to
"Classic View". Or are you referring to something else?

Well, sure. I also switch the interface to Classic. And I turn on
display of extensions and hidden files. And I turn off Simple
Networking. And a whole host of other things that have the wrong
settings in the default installation.

But if you're giving instructions for how to do something with
Control Panel, you have to realize that not everybody has the same
view -- they may be using the default Category View.

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"Douglas J. Steele" wrote in
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"David W. Fenton" wrote in message
. 1...
"Douglas J. Steele" wrote in
:

Assuming you're using XP, go to Regional Settings in the Control
Panel, and click on the Customize button. Look on the date tab,
and you'll see what Windows is using as its instructions for
interpretting 2 digit years. (It's there for other versions of
Windows as well, but I can't guarantee that the instructions for
finding it are identical)

You can't really give instructions for WinXP any more for using
Control Panel, because they introduced the ridiculously useless
category view.

In Win2K, you just open the Regional Settings tool and go to the
Date tab. That's much simpler than your instructions. What,
exactly, did MS think they were improving by making it more
complicated in WinXP?

(this is exactly why I've always rejected WinXP -- it adds
complexity where none is needed, and tries to bleed it away
(e.g., security) where it is essential)

In the Category view, "Date, Time, Language and Regional Options"
is one of the categories, and from there you can still choose the
"Regional and Language Options" icon. (You're right, though, that
I could have been more explicit, but like Rick I always switch to
Classic View, so I sometimes forget about the "alternative"
approach)

I suspect that most of us who are answering questions here do the
same thing.

But we have to make our answers usable for the people who *don't*
know the things we do!

And that's extremely hard to remember how to dom in many cases.

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"evilcowstare via AccessMonster.com" u31650@uwe wrote in
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I
just found it strange how there is a cut off at 2029 thats all.

Where would you want the cutoff to be?

That is, how would you want your computer to guess what you mean?

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"David W. Fenton" wrote in message
...
I suspect that most of us who are answering questions here do the
same thing.

But we have to make our answers usable for the people who *don't*
know the things we do!

And that's extremely hard to remember how to dom in many cases.

I generally focus on the answer to the question asked.

"Change the setting in Windows Control Panel"

If the poster doesn't know how to do that then that is a separate question.

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Well you would have thought that the people that designed access would have
put it in as an option, so you can decide where the years should start from
yourself. So for example if you put 2001 then it would automatically change
any date from that so if you put 30 it would know it would be 2030 not 1930.
There seems to be lots of things access could have done to make life a lot
easier.
Oh well


David W. Fenton wrote:
I
just found it strange how there is a cut off at 2029 thats all.

Where would you want the cutoff to be?

That is, how would you want your computer to guess what you mean?


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It IS an option, not in Access itself, but in Windows.

As I've already said, you need to look at Regional Settings to change it.

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Well you would have thought that the people that designed access would
have
put it in as an option, so you can decide where the years should start
from
yourself. So for example if you put 2001 then it would automatically
change
any date from that so if you put 30 it would know it would be 2030 not
1930.
There seems to be lots of things access could have done to make life a lot
easier.
Oh well


David W. Fenton wrote:
I
just found it strange how there is a cut off at 2029 thats all.

Where would you want the cutoff to be?

That is, how would you want your computer to guess what you mean?


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yeah i know its an option in windows but thats only good if its going to be
on just one pc, if it moves about then it would have been good to have
something in access that you can set so that the db picks up on the settings
you have chosen automatically

Douglas J. Steele wrote:
It IS an option, not in Access itself, but in Windows.

As I've already said, you need to look at Regional Settings to change it.

Well you would have thought that the people that designed access would
have
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That is, how would you want your computer to guess what you mean?

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"evilcowstare via AccessMonster.com" u31650@uwe wrote in
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yeah i know its an option in windows but thats only good if its
going to be on just one pc, if it moves about then it would have
been good to have something in access that you can set so that the
db picks up on the settings you have chosen automatically

But that's the whole point why you need to eliminate the problem by
requiring 4-digit entry of years. You're quite right that you don't
want the behavior of your application to change just because it's on
a different PC, and when Y2K happened, I was among those who wished
that there was a setting internal to Access for this.

But MS is often not very smart about things they put in Access. For
instance, Autocorrect (not Name Autocorrect, which is an abomination
of another type) is a component shared between all the Office
programs, and it's based on user-entered data. But Access defaults
to Autocorrect being ON in all textboxes and combo boxes. It's not
such a tragedy for textboxes, but it's the stupidest thing on the
planet for combo boxes. I first encountered this in an app where a
user was trying to choose an item from a dropdown list and when they
chose it, the Access said "not a valid item from the list." Why? It
was changing "cafe" as it was spelled in the dropdown text to "café"
because that was an Autocorrect entry, and "café" wasn't one of the
choices!

So, sometimes MS's efforts towards "ease of use" conflict with the
goals of a database program, where you want to insure the validity
and accuracy of data. Because of that, you as a developer have to
take responsibility for overriding these default MS configurations,
which means you have to force 4-digit entry of years or write your
own validation code, and you have to make sure you go through and
turn off Autocorrect on all your dropdown lists.

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