section breaks, orientation and margins

Hello,

I hope anyone can help me.
I am working on a report whcih has 3 sections. The first without a header (front page). The second has a header and is portrait oriented.
The third section has a header (different from the second) and is landscape oriented.
Now i want to add a fourth section at the end of the document with the same header as the third section but portrait oriented. When i try to do that i get an error that some of the margins etc. are too large for the page. I cannot find a way to solve this problem.

Please help me.
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Greetings and thanks
Michel

You will need to adjust the tab stops in the header of the fourth section so
that the text will fit within the potrait margins.

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Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Michel Offringa" wrote in
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Hello,

I hope anyone can help me.
I am working on a report whcih has 3 sections. The first without a header
(front page). The second has a header and is portrait oriented.
The third section has a header (different from the second) and is
landscape oriented.
Now i want to add a fourth section at the end of the document with the
same header as the third section but portrait oriented. When i try to do
that i get an error that some of the margins etc. are too large for the
page. I cannot find a way to solve this problem.

Please help me.
--
Greetings and thanks
Michel

That does not solve the problem. There are no tab stops outside the portrait margins when i try to change the orientation in portrait.

I tried something else: I did copy a section break (next page) from another part in the report to the end of the report. This creates the right orientation for the last pages, but unfortunately 1 extra page is added, landscape oriented.
Copying a section break continuous does not solve the problem of the extra page.



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Greetings and thanks
Michel


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

You will need to adjust the tab stops in the header of the fourth section so
that the text will fit within the potrait margins.

--
Please post any further questions or followup to the newsgroups for the
benefit of others who may be interested. Unsolicited questions forwarded
directly to me will only be answered on a paid consulting basis.

Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Michel Offringa" wrote in
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Hello,

I hope anyone can help me.
I am working on a report whcih has 3 sections. The first without a header
(front page). The second has a header and is portrait oriented.
The third section has a header (different from the second) and is
landscape oriented.
Now i want to add a fourth section at the end of the document with the
same header as the third section but portrait oriented. When i try to do
that i get an error that some of the margins etc. are too large for the
page. I cannot find a way to solve this problem.

Please help me.
--
Greetings and thanks
Michel

You probably could profit from a look at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...thSections.htm

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Michel Offringa" wrote in message
...
That does not solve the problem. There are no tab stops outside the
portrait margins when i try to change the orientation in portrait.

I tried something else: I did copy a section break (next page) from
another part in the report to the end of the report. This creates the right
orientation for the last pages, but unfortunately 1 extra page is added,
landscape oriented.
Copying a section break continuous does not solve the problem of the extra
page.



--
Greetings and thanks
Michel


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

You will need to adjust the tab stops in the header of the fourth
section so
that the text will fit within the potrait margins.

--
Please post any further questions or followup to the newsgroups for the
benefit of others who may be interested. Unsolicited questions
forwarded
directly to me will only be answered on a paid consulting basis.

Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Michel Offringa" wrote in
message ...
Hello,

I hope anyone can help me.
I am working on a report whcih has 3 sections. The first without a
header
(front page). The second has a header and is portrait oriented.
The third section has a header (different from the second) and is
landscape oriented.
Now i want to add a fourth section at the end of the document with the
same header as the third section but portrait oriented. When i try to do
that i get an error that some of the margins etc. are too large for the
page. I cannot find a way to solve this problem.

Please help me.
--
Greetings and thanks
Michel

Hi =?Utf-8?B?TWljaGVsIE9mZnJpbmdh?=,

I am working on a report whcih has 3 sections. The first without a header (front page).
The second has a header and is portrait oriented.
The third section has a header (different from the second) and is landscape oriented.
Now i want to add a fourth section at the end of the document with the same header as
the third section but portrait oriented. When i try to do that i get an error that some of
the margins etc. are too large for the page. I cannot find a way to solve this problem.

The portrait page can't have the same header as a landscape page, as it would be too wide
(as Word is telling you). Word doesn't know how to "scale" if the page orientation
changes. You might be able to "share" some of the elements used in both sections, however.
For example, you could put plain text into custom document properties (File/Properties)
and insert DocProperty fields to display the information. If it needs to be changed,
change it in one place (File/Properties) and both headers will reflect it.

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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I could not find any usefull information in this part.
Other suggestions ?

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Greetings and thanks
Michel


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You probably could profit from a look at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...thSections.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Michel Offringa" wrote in message
...
That does not solve the problem. There are no tab stops outside the
portrait margins when i try to change the orientation in portrait.

I tried something else: I did copy a section break (next page) from
another part in the report to the end of the report. This creates the right
orientation for the last pages, but unfortunately 1 extra page is added,
landscape oriented.
Copying a section break continuous does not solve the problem of the extra
page.



--
Greetings and thanks
Michel


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

You will need to adjust the tab stops in the header of the fourth
section so
that the text will fit within the potrait margins.

--
Please post any further questions or followup to the newsgroups for the
benefit of others who may be interested. Unsolicited questions
forwarded
directly to me will only be answered on a paid consulting basis.

Hope this helps
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Michel Offringa" wrote in
message ...
Hello,

I hope anyone can help me.
I am working on a report whcih has 3 sections. The first without a
header
(front page). The second has a header and is portrait oriented.
The third section has a header (different from the second) and is
landscape oriented.
Now i want to add a fourth section at the end of the document with the
same header as the third section but portrait oriented. When i try to do
that i get an error that some of the margins etc. are too large for the
page. I cannot find a way to solve this problem.

Please help me.
--
Greetings and thanks
Michel

I already have a great part of the header in the File/Properties.
Would it be helpful to delete all headers first and then create new ones for all different sections ??
Also see my other messages in this thread.

Please, any other suggestions ?
--
Greetings and thanks
Michel


"Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote:

Hi =?Utf-8?B?TWljaGVsIE9mZnJpbmdh?=,

I am working on a report whcih has 3 sections. The first without a header (front page).
The second has a header and is portrait oriented.
The third section has a header (different from the second) and is landscape oriented.
Now i want to add a fourth section at the end of the document with the same header as
the third section but portrait oriented. When i try to do that i get an error that some of
the margins etc. are too large for the page. I cannot find a way to solve this problem.

The portrait page can't have the same header as a landscape page, as it would be too wide
(as Word is telling you). Word doesn't know how to "scale" if the page orientation
changes. You might be able to "share" some of the elements used in both sections, however.
For example, you could put plain text into custom document properties (File/Properties)
and insert DocProperty fields to display the information. If it needs to be changed,
change it in one place (File/Properties) and both headers will reflect it.

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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Hi =?Utf-8?B?TWljaGVsIE9mZnJpbmdh?=,

I already have a great part of the header in the File/Properties.
Would it be helpful to delete all headers first and then create new ones for all
different sections ??
Also see my other messages in this thread.

Yes, I just saw those. My thoughts:

1. Don't use continuous section breaks. Instead, use "Next Page" section breaks. That way,
you can be sure that you're modifying the proper header/footer. With "continuous" breaks,
this isn't so certain.

2. Remember to turn off "same as previous" before you try changing the header/footer in a
new section.

3. Do NOT try copying section breaks. These are very fragile things, as they link the
section formatting within word's binary file structures. Always create new section breaks.

4. At this point, I'd try setting up a new document. Copy over the text from the document
you have no, but NOT the section breaks. Recreate the section breaks and the
headers/footers in the new document. (Note: you can copy text that's IN a header or
footer, that's OK)

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004)
http://www.word.mvps.org

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