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  #1  
Old April 26th, 2004, 11:49 PM
mark
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Default Auto Text

I have been talking with the guys from the IT department
and have assured me that they do not touch, freeze or
change these type of documents.


-----Original Message-----
Does that mean that they have frozen the default settings

or that they don't
mess with your normal.dot? My guess is that they have

frozen the default
settings and they do mess with your normal.dot.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented

version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)

http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is

awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------

--
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

wrote in message
...
sorry it took so long to get back to you (holidays). Yes
this is a company PC on a network, and the "IT nazis"

told
me that they do not touch the default settings on these
files.

-----Original Message-----
Is this a company PC on a network? It could be that the

IT nazis cause a
default normal.dot template to overwrite your own. In

which case apart from
railing at the laziness of the IT staff which is

preventing Word from being
used correctly, you will have to put up with it. On

reflection, there is a
potential workaround, but we'll address that if

necessary
later.

If it is a solo machine, then normal.dot is not being

updated. The original
could be corrupt, so rename it and let's start again

with
a new one.

Reinstalling Word will have no effect on this problem

whatsoever. The issue
is external to Word.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
Graham thanks for the help,
but that still didnt work after the computer was shut

down
for the night then turned back on. Will i need to
reinstall Word?


-----Original Message-----
Autotext is saved in normal.dot by default. You need

to save that
file when prompted - ensure that prompt to save

normal.dot is
checked in tools options save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
When i create an auto text entry then exit and shut

down
the PC, the auto text entry is not there when i

next
open
Word, Please help


.


.



.

  #2  
Old April 27th, 2004, 12:15 AM
Charles Kenyon
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Posts: n/a
Default Auto Text

Is your normal.dot template stored in a folder which is marked "read-only?"
Is normal.dot read-only? Neither of these should be the case. Word does not
behave the way you are describing unless someone is crippling it.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

"mark" wrote in message
...
I have been talking with the guys from the IT department
and have assured me that they do not touch, freeze or
change these type of documents.


-----Original Message-----
Does that mean that they have frozen the default settings

or that they don't
mess with your normal.dot? My guess is that they have

frozen the default
settings and they do mess with your normal.dot.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented

version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)

http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is

awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------

--
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

wrote in message
...
sorry it took so long to get back to you (holidays). Yes
this is a company PC on a network, and the "IT nazis"

told
me that they do not touch the default settings on these
files.

-----Original Message-----
Is this a company PC on a network? It could be that the
IT nazis cause a
default normal.dot template to overwrite your own. In
which case apart from
railing at the laziness of the IT staff which is
preventing Word from being
used correctly, you will have to put up with it. On
reflection, there is a
potential workaround, but we'll address that if

necessary
later.

If it is a solo machine, then normal.dot is not being
updated. The original
could be corrupt, so rename it and let's start again

with
a new one.

Reinstalling Word will have no effect on this problem
whatsoever. The issue
is external to Word.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
Graham thanks for the help,
but that still didnt work after the computer was shut
down
for the night then turned back on. Will i need to
reinstall Word?


-----Original Message-----
Autotext is saved in normal.dot by default. You need
to save that
file when prompted - ensure that prompt to save
normal.dot is
checked in tools options save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
When i create an auto text entry then exit and shut
down
the PC, the auto text entry is not there when i

next
open
Word, Please help


.


.



.



  #3  
Old April 29th, 2004, 04:21 AM
mark
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Auto Text

I have gone through with the guys from IT and have had a
look at all the files and folders where the normal.dot
lives and none of them are read-only. The auto-text
entries are still working every second or third day, this
is driving me mad!!


-----Original Message-----
Is your normal.dot template stored in a folder which is

marked "read-only?"
Is normal.dot read-only? Neither of these should be the

case. Word does not
behave the way you are describing unless someone is

crippling it.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented

version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)

http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is

awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------

--
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

"mark" wrote in

message
...
I have been talking with the guys from the IT department
and have assured me that they do not touch, freeze or
change these type of documents.


-----Original Message-----
Does that mean that they have frozen the default

settings
or that they don't
mess with your normal.dot? My guess is that they have

frozen the default
settings and they do mess with your normal.dot.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word

(supplemented
version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)

http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is

awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

---
--
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post

replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

wrote in message
...
sorry it took so long to get back to you (holidays).

Yes
this is a company PC on a network, and the "IT nazis"

told
me that they do not touch the default settings on

these
files.

-----Original Message-----
Is this a company PC on a network? It could be that

the
IT nazis cause a
default normal.dot template to overwrite your own.

In
which case apart from
railing at the laziness of the IT staff which is
preventing Word from being
used correctly, you will have to put up with it. On
reflection, there is a
potential workaround, but we'll address that if

necessary
later.

If it is a solo machine, then normal.dot is not

being
updated. The original
could be corrupt, so rename it and let's start again

with
a new one.

Reinstalling Word will have no effect on this

problem
whatsoever. The issue
is external to Word.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
Graham thanks for the help,
but that still didnt work after the computer was

shut
down
for the night then turned back on. Will i need to
reinstall Word?


-----Original Message-----
Autotext is saved in normal.dot by default. You

need
to save that
file when prompted - ensure that prompt to save
normal.dot is
checked in tools options save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
When i create an auto text entry then exit and

shut
down
the PC, the auto text entry is not there when i

next
open
Word, Please help


.


.



.



.

  #4  
Old April 29th, 2004, 10:19 AM
Graham Mayor
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Posts: n/a
Default Auto Text

If you are running Norton AV, its Office Plug-in is both unnecessary and
causes all sorts of spurious problems. This could be another one of them?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word




mark wrote:
I have gone through with the guys from IT and have had a
look at all the files and folders where the normal.dot
lives and none of them are read-only. The auto-text
entries are still working every second or third day, this
is driving me mad!!


-----Original Message-----
Is your normal.dot template stored in a folder which is marked
"read-only?" Is normal.dot read-only? Neither of these should be the
case. Word does not behave the way you are describing unless someone
is crippling it. --

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)

http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

"mark" wrote in message
...
I have been talking with the guys from the IT department
and have assured me that they do not touch, freeze or
change these type of documents.


-----Original Message-----
Does that mean that they have frozen the default settings or that
they don't mess with your normal.dot? My guess is that they have
frozen the default settings and they do mess with your normal.dot.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version
of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- --- --
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

wrote in message
...
sorry it took so long to get back to you (holidays). Yes
this is a company PC on a network, and the "IT nazis" told
me that they do not touch the default settings on these
files.

-----Original Message-----
Is this a company PC on a network? It could be that the IT nazis
cause a default normal.dot template to overwrite your own. In
which case apart from railing at the laziness of the IT staff
which is preventing Word from being used correctly, you will
have to put up with it. On reflection, there is a potential
workaround, but we'll address that if necessary later.

If it is a solo machine, then normal.dot is not being updated.
The original could be corrupt, so rename it and let's start
again with a new one.

Reinstalling Word will have no effect on this problem
whatsoever. The issue is external to Word.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
Graham thanks for the help,
but that still didnt work after the computer was shut down
for the night then turned back on. Will i need to
reinstall Word?


-----Original Message-----
Autotext is saved in normal.dot by default. You need to save
that file when prompted - ensure that prompt to save
normal.dot is checked in tools options save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
When i create an auto text entry then exit and shut down
the PC, the auto text entry is not there when i next open
Word, Please help


.


.



.



.



  #5  
Old April 30th, 2004, 12:37 AM
mark
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Auto Text

The company runs Norton CE, does that matter? does this
still have the same problem?

-----Original Message-----
If you are running Norton AV, its Office Plug-in is both

unnecessary and
causes all sorts of spurious problems. This could be

another one of them?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word




mark wrote:
I have gone through with the guys from IT and have had a
look at all the files and folders where the normal.dot
lives and none of them are read-only. The auto-text
entries are still working every second or third day,

this
is driving me mad!!


-----Original Message-----
Is your normal.dot template stored in a folder which

is marked
"read-only?" Is normal.dot read-only? Neither of these

should be the
case. Word does not behave the way you are describing

unless someone
is crippling it. --

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word

(supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)

http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which

is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----

--
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post

replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

"mark" wrote in

message
...
I have been talking with the guys from the IT

department
and have assured me that they do not touch, freeze or
change these type of documents.


-----Original Message-----
Does that mean that they have frozen the default

settings or that
they don't mess with your normal.dot? My guess is

that they have
frozen the default settings and they do mess with

your normal.dot.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word

(supplemented version
of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which

is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---

- --- --
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post

replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can

learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

wrote in

message
...
sorry it took so long to get back to you

(holidays). Yes
this is a company PC on a network, and the "IT

nazis" told
me that they do not touch the default settings on

these
files.

-----Original Message-----
Is this a company PC on a network? It could be

that the IT nazis
cause a default normal.dot template to overwrite

your own. In
which case apart from railing at the laziness of

the IT staff
which is preventing Word from being used

correctly, you will
have to put up with it. On reflection, there is a

potential
workaround, but we'll address that if necessary

later.

If it is a solo machine, then normal.dot is not

being updated.
The original could be corrupt, so rename it and

let's start
again with a new one.

Reinstalling Word will have no effect on this

problem
whatsoever. The issue is external to Word.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
Graham thanks for the help,
but that still didnt work after the computer was

shut down
for the night then turned back on. Will i need to
reinstall Word?


-----Original Message-----
Autotext is saved in normal.dot by default. You

need to save
that file when prompted - ensure that prompt to

save
normal.dot is checked in tools options save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
When i create an auto text entry then exit and

shut down
the PC, the auto text entry is not there when i

next open
Word, Please help


.


.



.



.



.

  #6  
Old April 30th, 2004, 01:03 AM
Charles Kenyon
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Auto Text

See if it has an Office Plug-In. If it does, disable it.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

"mark" wrote in message
...
The company runs Norton CE, does that matter? does this
still have the same problem?

-----Original Message-----
If you are running Norton AV, its Office Plug-in is both

unnecessary and
causes all sorts of spurious problems. This could be

another one of them?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word




mark wrote:
I have gone through with the guys from IT and have had a
look at all the files and folders where the normal.dot
lives and none of them are read-only. The auto-text
entries are still working every second or third day,

this
is driving me mad!!


-----Original Message-----
Is your normal.dot template stored in a folder which

is marked
"read-only?" Is normal.dot read-only? Neither of these

should be the
case. Word does not behave the way you are describing

unless someone
is crippling it. --

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word

(supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which

is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----

--
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post

replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

"mark" wrote in

message
...
I have been talking with the guys from the IT

department
and have assured me that they do not touch, freeze or
change these type of documents.


-----Original Message-----
Does that mean that they have frozen the default

settings or that
they don't mess with your normal.dot? My guess is

that they have
frozen the default settings and they do mess with

your normal.dot.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word

(supplemented version
of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which

is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---

- --- --
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post

replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can

learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

wrote in

message
...
sorry it took so long to get back to you

(holidays). Yes
this is a company PC on a network, and the "IT

nazis" told
me that they do not touch the default settings on

these
files.

-----Original Message-----
Is this a company PC on a network? It could be

that the IT nazis
cause a default normal.dot template to overwrite

your own. In
which case apart from railing at the laziness of

the IT staff
which is preventing Word from being used

correctly, you will
have to put up with it. On reflection, there is a

potential
workaround, but we'll address that if necessary

later.

If it is a solo machine, then normal.dot is not

being updated.
The original could be corrupt, so rename it and

let's start
again with a new one.

Reinstalling Word will have no effect on this

problem
whatsoever. The issue is external to Word.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
Graham thanks for the help,
but that still didnt work after the computer was

shut down
for the night then turned back on. Will i need to
reinstall Word?


-----Original Message-----
Autotext is saved in normal.dot by default. You

need to save
that file when prompted - ensure that prompt to

save
normal.dot is checked in tools options save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
When i create an auto text entry then exit and

shut down
the PC, the auto text entry is not there when i

next open
Word, Please help


.


.



.



.



.



  #7  
Old April 30th, 2004, 04:21 AM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Auto Text

Yes, for CE, here's Office MVP Beth Melton's boilerplate:

If Norton AV was installed at one time then the DLL for the Office
Plug-in could still be registered.

Search for : officeav.dll

If you find it then go to Start/Run and run the following command:

regsvr32 /u "path\officeav.dll"

Here is a KB article that provides a few additional details. It does
not include information on Norton CE but it will contain additional
details on the unregister command if you need them:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=329820


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"mark" wrote in message
...
The company runs Norton CE, does that matter? does this
still have the same problem?

-----Original Message-----
If you are running Norton AV, its Office Plug-in is both

unnecessary and
causes all sorts of spurious problems. This could be

another one of them?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word




mark wrote:
I have gone through with the guys from IT and have had a
look at all the files and folders where the normal.dot
lives and none of them are read-only. The auto-text
entries are still working every second or third day,

this
is driving me mad!!


-----Original Message-----
Is your normal.dot template stored in a folder which

is marked
"read-only?" Is normal.dot read-only? Neither of these

should be the
case. Word does not behave the way you are describing

unless someone
is crippling it. --

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word

(supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which

is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----

--
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post

replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

"mark" wrote in

message
...
I have been talking with the guys from the IT

department
and have assured me that they do not touch, freeze or
change these type of documents.


-----Original Message-----
Does that mean that they have frozen the default

settings or that
they don't mess with your normal.dot? My guess is

that they have
frozen the default settings and they do mess with

your normal.dot.
--

Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:

http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word

(supplemented version
of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which

is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---

- --- --
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post

replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can

learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

wrote in

message
...
sorry it took so long to get back to you

(holidays). Yes
this is a company PC on a network, and the "IT

nazis" told
me that they do not touch the default settings on

these
files.

-----Original Message-----
Is this a company PC on a network? It could be

that the IT nazis
cause a default normal.dot template to overwrite

your own. In
which case apart from railing at the laziness of

the IT staff
which is preventing Word from being used

correctly, you will
have to put up with it. On reflection, there is a

potential
workaround, but we'll address that if necessary

later.

If it is a solo machine, then normal.dot is not

being updated.
The original could be corrupt, so rename it and

let's start
again with a new one.

Reinstalling Word will have no effect on this

problem
whatsoever. The issue is external to Word.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
Graham thanks for the help,
but that still didnt work after the computer was

shut down
for the night then turned back on. Will i need to
reinstall Word?


-----Original Message-----
Autotext is saved in normal.dot by default. You

need to save
that file when prompted - ensure that prompt to

save
normal.dot is checked in tools options save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word



Mark wrote:
When i create an auto text entry then exit and

shut down
the PC, the auto text entry is not there when i

next open
Word, Please help


.


.



.



.



.


 




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