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  #11  
Old August 7th, 2006, 12:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
JoAnn Paules [MVP]
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Default Finding a Backspace

Do they look like ¶?

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
JoAnn Paules - another good idea - But it looks like Greg's routine
doesn't include the characters in question.

sniptcebob "would you post an excerpt? "
Great idea - turns out, tho, that when I paste the sample said marks
disappear. Can I attach a Word document on this list???

snip"Nothing but calm on my end"
Good

snip"There is no such thing as a "backspace character".

Well, OK, but I got pages of them

BTW, I find none of these characters in my Word symbols library.

Stark reality is starting to set in :-).

Dave


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
That's a completely different question. Greg Maxey has something that may
help.

http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Clean_Up_Text.htm

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"Dave" wrote in message
...
Let's all remain calm everybody, the OP forgot to mention something key.
Shall we start over.

I am the lucky recipient of a very lengthy report contained in,
unfortunately not attached to, an email message (if you think this OP is
a problem you should be so lucky as to be working with the sender). My
duty is to edit this doc extensively, then combine it with others, etc.,
etc.

When you C/P from the email into Word, you get a zillion line
ending/backspace/paragraph characters, with formatting to match. Really
ugly.

I was hoping there was a way to find/replace to clean this mess up.

Dave


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
Okay. I was thinking more along the lines of a letter/number/symbol and
not a command. Perhaps the OP needs to clarify what he/she is doing.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"tcebob" handle @ gwi.net wrote in message
...
Well, actually, there is. (008) But whether Word uses it, I don't
know; probably not.
There is an overtype format for making overlines and so forth but I
can't say how it
actually works.

The backspace used to work fine on dot matrix printers and Selectrics,
together with line
feed (without carriage return). I programmed some tables with these
characters and it was
fun to watch the printer jog back and forth, up and down.

rs


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
news : There is no such thing as a "backspace character".
:
: --
:
: JoAnn Paules
: MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
:
:
:
:
: "Dave" wrote in message
: ...
: How can I do a Find and Replace on the backspace character?. I
don't see
: how to get the backspace character into the 'Find What" slot.
:
: Thx
:
: Dave
:
:
:












  #12  
Old August 7th, 2006, 04:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
tcebob
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: sniptcebob "would you post an excerpt? "
: Great idea - turns out, tho, that when I paste the sample said marks
: disappear. Can I attach a Word document on this list???

Probably too big. Try a screen shot (Print Screen) paste it into any graphics editor (Ms
Paint), crop out all but a representative few lines, save as jpg. Should be pretty small.

rs



  #13  
Old August 7th, 2006, 04:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Finding a Backspace

Posting a picture of a document is pretty much useless. Attachments are not
permitted in the MS Communities; those posting with NNTP newsreaders can add
attachments, but Communities readers won't see them.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"tcebob" handle @ gwi.net wrote in message
...

: sniptcebob "would you post an excerpt? "
: Great idea - turns out, tho, that when I paste the sample said marks
: disappear. Can I attach a Word document on this list???

Probably too big. Try a screen shot (Print Screen) paste it into any

graphics editor (Ms
Paint), crop out all but a representative few lines, save as jpg. Should

be pretty small.

rs




  #14  
Old August 7th, 2006, 05:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Graham Mayor
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Default Finding a Backspace

You can find any character using its ANSI or UNICODE number in the search
tool - see http://www.gmayor.com/replace_using_wildcards.htm

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Dave wrote:
JoAnn Paules - another good idea - But it looks like Greg's routine
doesn't include the characters in question.

sniptcebob "would you post an excerpt? "
Great idea - turns out, tho, that when I paste the sample said marks
disappear. Can I attach a Word document on this list???

snip"Nothing but calm on my end"
Good

snip"There is no such thing as a "backspace character".

Well, OK, but I got pages of them

BTW, I find none of these characters in my Word symbols library.

Stark reality is starting to set in :-).

Dave


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
That's a completely different question. Greg Maxey has something
that may help.

http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Clean_Up_Text.htm

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"Dave" wrote in message
...
Let's all remain calm everybody, the OP forgot to mention something
key. Shall we start over.

I am the lucky recipient of a very lengthy report contained in,
unfortunately not attached to, an email message (if you think this
OP is a problem you should be so lucky as to be working with the
sender). My duty is to edit this doc extensively, then combine it
with others, etc., etc.

When you C/P from the email into Word, you get a zillion line
ending/backspace/paragraph characters, with formatting to match. Really
ugly.

I was hoping there was a way to find/replace to clean this mess up.

Dave


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
Okay. I was thinking more along the lines of a
letter/number/symbol and not a command. Perhaps the OP needs to
clarify what he/she is doing. --

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"tcebob" handle @ gwi.net wrote in message
...
Well, actually, there is. (008) But whether Word uses it, I don't
know; probably not.
There is an overtype format for making overlines and so forth but
I can't say how it
actually works.

The backspace used to work fine on dot matrix printers and
Selectrics, together with line
feed (without carriage return). I programmed some tables with
these characters and it was
fun to watch the printer jog back and forth, up and down.

rs


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in
message news There is no such thing as a "backspace character".

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"Dave" wrote in message
...
How can I do a Find and Replace on the backspace character?. I
don't see how to get the backspace character into the 'Find
What" slot. Thx

Dave



  #15  
Old August 7th, 2006, 03:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
tcebob
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Default Finding a Backspace

Oops. Oh, well.

Dave, under the circumstances I would try deleting everything at the end of each line. The
wild card syntax in Word is very flexible.

rs



  #16  
Old August 8th, 2006, 06:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Graham Mayor
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Posts: 18,297
Default Finding a Backspace

The following macro will give the ANSI code of any selected character:

Sub ANSIValue()
S1$ = "Because the selected text contains"
S2$ = " characters, not all of the ANSI values will be displayed."
S3$ = "ANSI Value ("
S4$ = " characters in selection)"
S5$ = " character in selection)"
S6$ = "Text must be selected before this macro is run."
S7$ = "ANSI Value"
Dim strSel As String
Dim strNums As String
Dim LastFourChar As String
Dim iPos As Integer
strSel = Selection.Text
If Len(strSel) 0 Then
For i = 1 To Len(strSel)
strNums = strNums + Str(Asc(Mid(strSel, i)))
Next i
strNums = LTrim(strNums)
If Len(strNums) 255 Then
LastFourChar = Mid(strNums, 252, 4)
strNums = Left(strNums, 251) + Left(LastFourChar, _
4 - InStr(" ", LastFourChar))
MsgBox S1$ + Str(Len(strSel)) + S2$
End If
If Len(strSel) = 1 Then S4$ = S5$
MsgBox strNums, 0, S3$ + LTrim(Str(Len(strSel))) + S4$
Else
MsgBox S6$, 0, S7$
End If
End Sub


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Graham Mayor wrote:
You can find any character using its ANSI or UNICODE number in the
search tool - see http://www.gmayor.com/replace_using_wildcards.htm


Dave wrote:
JoAnn Paules - another good idea - But it looks like Greg's routine
doesn't include the characters in question.

sniptcebob "would you post an excerpt? "
Great idea - turns out, tho, that when I paste the sample said marks
disappear. Can I attach a Word document on this list???

snip"Nothing but calm on my end"
Good

snip"There is no such thing as a "backspace character".

Well, OK, but I got pages of them

BTW, I find none of these characters in my Word symbols library.

Stark reality is starting to set in :-).

Dave


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
That's a completely different question. Greg Maxey has something
that may help.

http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Clean_Up_Text.htm

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"Dave" wrote in message
...
Let's all remain calm everybody, the OP forgot to mention something
key. Shall we start over.

I am the lucky recipient of a very lengthy report contained in,
unfortunately not attached to, an email message (if you think this
OP is a problem you should be so lucky as to be working with the
sender). My duty is to edit this doc extensively, then combine it
with others, etc., etc.

When you C/P from the email into Word, you get a zillion line
ending/backspace/paragraph characters, with formatting to match.
Really ugly.

I was hoping there was a way to find/replace to clean this mess up.

Dave


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
Okay. I was thinking more along the lines of a
letter/number/symbol and not a command. Perhaps the OP needs to
clarify what he/she is doing. --

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"tcebob" handle @ gwi.net wrote in message
...
Well, actually, there is. (008) But whether Word uses it, I don't
know; probably not.
There is an overtype format for making overlines and so forth but
I can't say how it
actually works.

The backspace used to work fine on dot matrix printers and
Selectrics, together with line
feed (without carriage return). I programmed some tables with
these characters and it was
fun to watch the printer jog back and forth, up and down.

rs


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in
message news There is no such thing as a "backspace character".

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"Dave" wrote in message
...
How can I do a Find and Replace on the backspace character?. I
don't see how to get the backspace character into the 'Find
What" slot. Thx

Dave



  #17  
Old August 8th, 2006, 03:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Dave
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Posts: 118
Default Finding a Backspace

Well I must say this has been a learning experience. Bob, aka tcebob, has
come to my rescue, and gets first prize, by advising that the character I'm
struggling with is a 'Manual line break' In retrospect, Suzanne comes in
second, however tcebob's explanation was a complete treatise on what to do,
not just another question..

Now before we start with the flames, let me remind you I posted this on the
Newuser" site. I never said I knew what I was doing.

Anyway, thank you all - ALL suggestions are appreciated -

Dave - off and running.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Are you sure these aren't just ordinary line breaks? You can find those
with
^l (lowercase L). See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CleanWebText.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Let's all remain calm everybody, the OP forgot to mention something key.
Shall we start over.

I am the lucky recipient of a very lengthy report contained in,
unfortunately not attached to, an email message (if you think this OP is
a
problem you should be so lucky as to be working with the sender). My
duty
is to edit this doc extensively, then combine it with others, etc., etc.

When you C/P from the email into Word, you get a zillion line
ending/backspace/paragraph characters, with formatting to match. Really
ugly.

I was hoping there was a way to find/replace to clean this mess up.

Dave


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
Okay. I was thinking more along the lines of a letter/number/symbol and
not a command. Perhaps the OP needs to clarify what he/she is doing.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"tcebob" handle @ gwi.net wrote in message
...
Well, actually, there is. (008) But whether Word uses it, I don't
know;
probably not.
There is an overtype format for making overlines and so forth but I

can't
say how it
actually works.

The backspace used to work fine on dot matrix printers and Selectrics,
together with line
feed (without carriage return). I programmed some tables with these
characters and it was
fun to watch the printer jog back and forth, up and down.

rs


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
news : There is no such thing as a "backspace character".
:
: --
:
: JoAnn Paules
: MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
:
:
:
:
: "Dave" wrote in message
: ...
: How can I do a Find and Replace on the backspace character?. I

don't
see
: how to get the backspace character into the 'Find What" slot.
:
: Thx
:
: Dave
:
:
:









  #18  
Old August 8th, 2006, 05:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Finding a Backspace

Where did tcebob say anything about manual line breaks? All I see is a
suggestion that you look for character 008, that you post a sample (as a
JPEG!), etc. I would have posted the link to
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CleanWebText.htm much earlier if JoAnn
had not already posted a link to
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Clean_Up_Text.htm. What I had not counted on was
that Greg's page assumes you know what a line break looks like, which you
obviously didn't; for more on this, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/NonPrintChars.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Well I must say this has been a learning experience. Bob, aka tcebob,

has
come to my rescue, and gets first prize, by advising that the character

I'm
struggling with is a 'Manual line break' In retrospect, Suzanne comes in
second, however tcebob's explanation was a complete treatise on what to

do,
not just another question..

Now before we start with the flames, let me remind you I posted this on

the
Newuser" site. I never said I knew what I was doing.

Anyway, thank you all - ALL suggestions are appreciated -

Dave - off and running.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Are you sure these aren't just ordinary line breaks? You can find those
with
^l (lowercase L). See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CleanWebText.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Let's all remain calm everybody, the OP forgot to mention something

key.
Shall we start over.

I am the lucky recipient of a very lengthy report contained in,
unfortunately not attached to, an email message (if you think this OP

is
a
problem you should be so lucky as to be working with the sender). My
duty
is to edit this doc extensively, then combine it with others, etc.,

etc.

When you C/P from the email into Word, you get a zillion line
ending/backspace/paragraph characters, with formatting to match.

Really
ugly.

I was hoping there was a way to find/replace to clean this mess up.

Dave


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
Okay. I was thinking more along the lines of a letter/number/symbol

and
not a command. Perhaps the OP needs to clarify what he/she is doing.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"tcebob" handle @ gwi.net wrote in message
...
Well, actually, there is. (008) But whether Word uses it, I don't
know;
probably not.
There is an overtype format for making overlines and so forth but I

can't
say how it
actually works.

The backspace used to work fine on dot matrix printers and

Selectrics,
together with line
feed (without carriage return). I programmed some tables with these
characters and it was
fun to watch the printer jog back and forth, up and down.

rs


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
news : There is no such thing as a "backspace character".
:
: --
:
: JoAnn Paules
: MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
:
:
:
:
: "Dave" wrote in message
: ...
: How can I do a Find and Replace on the backspace character?. I

don't
see
: how to get the backspace character into the 'Find What" slot.
:
: Thx
:
: Dave
:
:
:










  #19  
Old August 8th, 2006, 06:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
tcebob
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Posts: 84
Default Finding a Backspace

I asked Dave to send me a sample privately since attachments are verboten. I will post the
step-by-step if anyone wants. The original had manual line breaks throughout and every
indent was done with a series of non-breaking spaces. There were miscellaneous
non-breaking spaces throughout, just to make it interesting.

rs


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
: Where did tcebob say anything about manual line breaks? All I see is a
: suggestion that you look for character 008, that you post a sample (as a
: JPEG!), etc. I would have posted the link to
: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CleanWebText.htm much earlier if JoAnn
: had not already posted a link to
: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Clean_Up_Text.htm. What I had not counted on was
: that Greg's page assumes you know what a line break looks like, which you
: obviously didn't; for more on this, see
: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/NonPrintChars.htm
:
: --
: Suzanne S. Barnhill
: Microsoft MVP (Word)
: Words into Type
: Fairhope, Alabama USA
: Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
: Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
: all may benefit.
:
: "Dave" wrote in message
: ...
: Well I must say this has been a learning experience. Bob, aka tcebob,
: has
: come to my rescue, and gets first prize, by advising that the character
: I'm
: struggling with is a 'Manual line break' In retrospect, Suzanne comes in
: second, however tcebob's explanation was a complete treatise on what to
: do,
: not just another question..
:
: Now before we start with the flames, let me remind you I posted this on
: the
: Newuser" site. I never said I knew what I was doing.
:
: Anyway, thank you all - ALL suggestions are appreciated -
:
: Dave - off and running.
:
:
: "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
: ...
: Are you sure these aren't just ordinary line breaks? You can find those
: with
: ^l (lowercase L). See
: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CleanWebText.htm
:
: --
: Suzanne S. Barnhill
: Microsoft MVP (Word)
: Words into Type
: Fairhope, Alabama USA
: Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
: Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
: newsgroup
: so
: all may benefit.
:
: "Dave" wrote in message
: ...
: Let's all remain calm everybody, the OP forgot to mention something
: key.
: Shall we start over.
:
: I am the lucky recipient of a very lengthy report contained in,
: unfortunately not attached to, an email message (if you think this OP
: is
: a
: problem you should be so lucky as to be working with the sender). My
: duty
: is to edit this doc extensively, then combine it with others, etc.,
: etc.
:
: When you C/P from the email into Word, you get a zillion line
: ending/backspace/paragraph characters, with formatting to match.
: Really
: ugly.
:
: I was hoping there was a way to find/replace to clean this mess up.
:
: Dave
:
:
: "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
: .. .
: Okay. I was thinking more along the lines of a letter/number/symbol
: and
: not a command. Perhaps the OP needs to clarify what he/she is doing.
:
: --
:
: JoAnn Paules
: MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
:
:
:
:
: "tcebob" handle @ gwi.net wrote in message
: ...
: Well, actually, there is. (008) But whether Word uses it, I don't
: know;
: probably not.
: There is an overtype format for making overlines and so forth but I
: can't
: say how it
: actually works.
:
: The backspace used to work fine on dot matrix printers and
: Selectrics,
: together with line
: feed (without carriage return). I programmed some tables with these
: characters and it was
: fun to watch the printer jog back and forth, up and down.
:
: rs
:
:
: "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
: news : : There is no such thing as a "backspace character".
: :
: : --
: :
: : JoAnn Paules
: : MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
: :
: :
: :
: :
: : "Dave" wrote in message
: : ...
: : How can I do a Find and Replace on the backspace character?. I
: don't
: see
: : how to get the backspace character into the 'Find What" slot.
: :
: : Thx
: :
: : Dave
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:


  #20  
Old August 8th, 2006, 08:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
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"Dave" wrote in message

...I never said I knew what I was doing...


Comparatively, Dave, none of us does! It's all a great learning curve. It's
just that some are higher on it.

Cheers



 




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