Convert Text for a PDF File - Pack and Go or Publish as PDF

When using "Pack and Go" or "Publish as PDF" in Publisher 2007 is there a way
to convert text to an image or a shape? In other higher powered software
packages there is an option to outline text to change text to shapes. I am
not sure how to do anything other than embed the fonts with Publisher.

The problem I am running into is when I send a PDF to our printing company,
who uses MACs, the font is lost because it is not native to that platform. I
can not send them the TrueType files, because the file types are
incompatible. They asked me to covert the text to an image or a shape so it
does not come across as text in the PDF. They also said something about
converting the text to curves, which they thought was an option in Publisher.
The end result is their computer does a goofy font substitution and the text
does not look at all like it should.

Bottom line, if I can open the PDF and highlight the text as you would in
any text editor, there is a problem when the printing company opens the file.

I have saved the publication as a JPG, along with some other image file
types, but the quality was lost as compared to the PDF. At this point I am
considering changing to a printing company who is PC based. Although I spoke
with a few and they are not huge fans of working with Publisher files. Any
suggestions, comments or recommendations?

Thanks!

Have you tried using Microsoft's *save as PDF* add in?
https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en

Publisher cannot convert text to curves. You can save an individual text box as
a picture with the 300 dpi resolution, insert it and adjust the contrast.

Have you tried using the Commercial Printing options?

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"bandbrocks" wrote in message
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When using "Pack and Go" or "Publish as PDF" in Publisher 2007 is there a way
to convert text to an image or a shape? In other higher powered software
packages there is an option to outline text to change text to shapes. I am
not sure how to do anything other than embed the fonts with Publisher.

The problem I am running into is when I send a PDF to our printing company,
who uses MACs, the font is lost because it is not native to that platform. I
can not send them the TrueType files, because the file types are
incompatible. They asked me to covert the text to an image or a shape so it
does not come across as text in the PDF. They also said something about
converting the text to curves, which they thought was an option in Publisher.
The end result is their computer does a goofy font substitution and the text
does not look at all like it should.

Bottom line, if I can open the PDF and highlight the text as you would in
any text editor, there is a problem when the printing company opens the file.

I have saved the publication as a JPG, along with some other image file
types, but the quality was lost as compared to the PDF. At this point I am
considering changing to a printing company who is PC based. Although I spoke
with a few and they are not huge fans of working with Publisher files. Any
suggestions, comments or recommendations?

Thanks!

Sorry to to respond so late.

If you have created the PDF properly then there is
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO reason for the printing company to outline the
fonts. That is a hack and it tells me that they do not have their act
together. Run, don't walk, away from this kind of BS. With a little bit
of forethought, known as planning, they can handle your job with out all
of the BS they're throwing at you.

The fonts are embedded in the PDF, usually as subsetted. This means that
the fonts are "embedded in the PDF". So they don't need the fonts unless
you are asking them to make type changes.

TrueType fonts are not incompatible. They probably "print" the PDF to
their RIP which means that the fonts get converted to PostScript when
being printed.

Send me the PDF so I can see what's going on. This isn't rocket science,
molecular biology, brain surgery or theoretical physics. This is really
pretty straight forward work... Just not from InDesign.

I've run into more "problems" that "artists" have created with InDesign
and QuarkXPress than I have with Publisher. It's not the software, it's
the person using the software.

Matt Beals
Consultant
Enfocus Certified Trainer
Markzware Recognized Trainer
(425) 582-8554 - Office
(206) 201-2320 - Voicemail
(206) 618-2537 - Mobile


Come visit me at:
http://www.automatetheworkflow.com
http://www.mattbeals.com
http://blog.mattbeals.com

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bandbrocks wrote:
When using "Pack and Go" or "Publish as PDF" in Publisher 2007 is there a way
to convert text to an image or a shape? In other higher powered software
packages there is an option to outline text to change text to shapes. I am
not sure how to do anything other than embed the fonts with Publisher.

The problem I am running into is when I send a PDF to our printing company,
who uses MACs, the font is lost because it is not native to that platform. I
can not send them the TrueType files, because the file types are
incompatible. They asked me to covert the text to an image or a shape so it
does not come across as text in the PDF. They also said something about
converting the text to curves, which they thought was an option in Publisher.
The end result is their computer does a goofy font substitution and the text
does not look at all like it should.

Bottom line, if I can open the PDF and highlight the text as you would in
any text editor, there is a problem when the printing company opens the file.

I have saved the publication as a JPG, along with some other image file
types, but the quality was lost as compared to the PDF. At this point I am
considering changing to a printing company who is PC based. Although I spoke
with a few and they are not huge fans of working with Publisher files. Any
suggestions, comments or recommendations?

Thanks!

Thanks for the information, the recommendations and the suggestions. Per my
reply to Mary, I am going to find a new printing company.

"Matt Beals" wrote:

Sorry to to respond so late.

If you have created the PDF properly then there is
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO reason for the printing company to outline the
fonts. That is a hack and it tells me that they do not have their act
together. Run, don't walk, away from this kind of BS. With a little bit
of forethought, known as planning, they can handle your job with out all
of the BS they're throwing at you.

The fonts are embedded in the PDF, usually as subsetted. This means that
the fonts are "embedded in the PDF". So they don't need the fonts unless
you are asking them to make type changes.

TrueType fonts are not incompatible. They probably "print" the PDF to
their RIP which means that the fonts get converted to PostScript when
being printed.

Send me the PDF so I can see what's going on. This isn't rocket science,
molecular biology, brain surgery or theoretical physics. This is really
pretty straight forward work... Just not from InDesign.

I've run into more "problems" that "artists" have created with InDesign
and QuarkXPress than I have with Publisher. It's not the software, it's
the person using the software.

Matt Beals
Consultant
Enfocus Certified Trainer
Markzware Recognized Trainer
(425) 582-8554 - Office
(206) 201-2320 - Voicemail
(206) 618-2537 - Mobile


Come visit me at:
http://www.automatetheworkflow.com
http://www.mattbeals.com
http://blog.mattbeals.com

Friends don't let friends write HTML email

bandbrocks wrote:
When using "Pack and Go" or "Publish as PDF" in Publisher 2007 is there a way
to convert text to an image or a shape? In other higher powered software
packages there is an option to outline text to change text to shapes. I am
not sure how to do anything other than embed the fonts with Publisher.

The problem I am running into is when I send a PDF to our printing company,
who uses MACs, the font is lost because it is not native to that platform. I
can not send them the TrueType files, because the file types are
incompatible. They asked me to covert the text to an image or a shape so it
does not come across as text in the PDF. They also said something about
converting the text to curves, which they thought was an option in Publisher.
The end result is their computer does a goofy font substitution and the text
does not look at all like it should.

Bottom line, if I can open the PDF and highlight the text as you would in
any text editor, there is a problem when the printing company opens the file.

I have saved the publication as a JPG, along with some other image file
types, but the quality was lost as compared to the PDF. At this point I am
considering changing to a printing company who is PC based. Although I spoke
with a few and they are not huge fans of working with Publisher files. Any
suggestions, comments or recommendations?

Thanks!

I have tried the add in and get the same result. When I saved the text box
to a picture, even at 300 dpi, the resolution of the text when I brought it
back in was poor at best. I have also messed around with the commercial
printing options with no luck either.

Thanks for confirming that Publisher can not convert text to curves. So at
this point I think I am going to find another printing company.

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Have you tried using Microsoft's *save as PDF* add in?
https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en

Publisher cannot convert text to curves. You can save an individual text box as
a picture with the 300 dpi resolution, insert it and adjust the contrast.

Have you tried using the Commercial Printing options?

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"bandbrocks" wrote in message
...
When using "Pack and Go" or "Publish as PDF" in Publisher 2007 is there a way
to convert text to an image or a shape? In other higher powered software
packages there is an option to outline text to change text to shapes. I am
not sure how to do anything other than embed the fonts with Publisher.

The problem I am running into is when I send a PDF to our printing company,
who uses MACs, the font is lost because it is not native to that platform. I
can not send them the TrueType files, because the file types are
incompatible. They asked me to covert the text to an image or a shape so it
does not come across as text in the PDF. They also said something about
converting the text to curves, which they thought was an option in Publisher.
The end result is their computer does a goofy font substitution and the text
does not look at all like it should.

Bottom line, if I can open the PDF and highlight the text as you would in
any text editor, there is a problem when the printing company opens the file.

I have saved the publication as a JPG, along with some other image file
types, but the quality was lost as compared to the PDF. At this point I am
considering changing to a printing company who is PC based. Although I spoke
with a few and they are not huge fans of working with Publisher files. Any
suggestions, comments or recommendations?

Thanks!