news link in OE6 won't work with x-usc: prefix

You're preachine to the choir here, d00d.

PS: Win7 does not include any default Mail Client.


Gene3 wrote:
Yes, that's a perfect description of MS and its cohorts.

At least this thread makes MS's do-nothing position clear on this issue -
i.e. release a new version of their email client and change the name at
the
same time, then claim no responsibility for anything that went before.
Leaves everybody with Vista and the built-in Windows Mail stuck in the
lurch
with that lame op system and buggy email/news client. It will take another
5-10 years before that plays out and the related bugs disappear from the
internet.

I wonder if the confederacy of dunces will do any better with Windows 7,
etc? I doubt it.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Confederacy_of_Dunces]
Gene3 wrote:
Dunce = Idiot = Squarehead = Twerp (etc).....

"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote in message
...
Could you explain that? (And not the meaning of "dunce".)

DAS
--
To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"Gene3" wrote in message
...
Dunce!

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
I've got stamps & envelopes, too!

Gene3 wrote:
You have mail.

Yassuh, ah knows all about that...
--
Gene3

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
You're preachine to the choir here, d00d.

PS: Win7 does not include any default Mail Client.


Gene3 wrote:
Yes, that's a perfect description of MS and its cohorts.

At least this thread makes MS's do-nothing position clear on this issue -
i.e. release a new version of their email client and change the name at
the
same time, then claim no responsibility for anything that went before.
Leaves everybody with Vista and the built-in Windows Mail stuck in the
lurch
with that lame op system and buggy email/news client. It will take
another
5-10 years before that plays out and the related bugs disappear from the
internet.

I wonder if the confederacy of dunces will do any better with Windows 7,
etc? I doubt it.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Confederacy_of_Dunces]
Gene3 wrote:
Dunce = Idiot = Squarehead = Twerp (etc).....

"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote in message
...
Could you explain that? (And not the meaning of "dunce".)

DAS
--
To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"Gene3" wrote in message
...
Dunce!

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
I've got stamps & envelopes, too!

Gene3 wrote:
You have mail.

Amen!

"Gene3" wrote in message
...
Yassuh, ah knows all about that...
--
Gene3

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
You're preachine to the choir here, d00d.

PS: Win7 does not include any default Mail Client.


Gene3 wrote:
Yes, that's a perfect description of MS and its cohorts.

At least this thread makes MS's do-nothing position clear on this
issue -
i.e. release a new version of their email client and change the name at
the
same time, then claim no responsibility for anything that went before.
Leaves everybody with Vista and the built-in Windows Mail stuck in the
lurch
with that lame op system and buggy email/news client. It will take
another
5-10 years before that plays out and the related bugs disappear from the
internet.

I wonder if the confederacy of dunces will do any better with Windows 7,
etc? I doubt it.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Confederacy_of_Dunces]
Gene3 wrote:
Dunce = Idiot = Squarehead = Twerp (etc).....

"Dori A Schmetterling" wrote in message
...
Could you explain that? (And not the meaning of "dunce".)

DAS
--
To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
---
"Gene3" wrote in message
...
Dunce!

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
I've got stamps & envelopes, too!

Gene3 wrote:
You have mail.

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:39:31 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

You have mail.

Actually, I don't. I first checked my server logs for 9/18, then tested the
"Reply" button in my newsreader. "Reply" definitely works. You don't need to
edit anything in the email address; but I didn't even see a failed delivery
in my server logs. You did use the email address ending in,
', yes? There is nothing to edit, and 'msnews.aosake.net'
won't go anywhere, because it is not a valid mailhost.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Yes, and it bounced (details below). I'll resend to a different email
address if you care to let me know one. -- Gene3

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

Technical details of permanent failu
The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...py?answer=7720
[msnews.aosake.net (1): Connection timed out]

This error message indicates that we've attempted to make a connection with
your recipient's server but didn't receive a reply. Some possible causes
include the following:
a.. The other domain doesn't have up-to-date MX records or is otherwise
misconfigured.
b.. The other domain is blacklisting or graylisting messages from Gmail.
c.. The other domain is experiencing temporary networking problems.
We recommend contacting the customer service department of the recipient's
domain for further instructions. If you receive this bounce message when
sending to your Google Apps domain, please see our instructions for
configuring your MX records.
updated 1/29/2009
--
Gene3

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:39:31 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

You have mail.

Actually, I don't. I first checked my server logs for 9/18, then tested
the
"Reply" button in my newsreader. "Reply" definitely works. You don't need
to
edit anything in the email address; but I didn't even see a failed
delivery
in my server logs. You did use the email address ending in,
', yes? There is nothing to edit, and 'msnews.aosake.net'
won't go anywhere, because it is not a valid mailhost.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Ooops...
Nope, it went to your @msnews.aosake.net address, which is what shows in
your message headers here. I don't have a ' address for you,
so you'll have to clarify then I'll resend. -- Gene3

"Gene3" wrote in message
...
Yes, and it bounced (details below). I'll resend to a different email
address if you care to let me know one. -- Gene3

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

Technical details of permanent failu
The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...py?answer=7720
[msnews.aosake.net (1): Connection timed out]

This error message indicates that we've attempted to make a connection
with
your recipient's server but didn't receive a reply. Some possible causes
include the following:
a.. The other domain doesn't have up-to-date MX records or is otherwise
misconfigured.
b.. The other domain is blacklisting or graylisting messages from Gmail.
c.. The other domain is experiencing temporary networking problems.
We recommend contacting the customer service department of the recipient's
domain for further instructions. If you receive this bounce message when
sending to your Google Apps domain, please see our instructions for
configuring your MX records.
updated 1/29/2009
--
Gene3

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:39:31 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

You have mail.

Actually, I don't. I first checked my server logs for 9/18, then tested
the
"Reply" button in my newsreader. "Reply" definitely works. You don't need
to
edit anything in the email address; but I didn't even see a failed
delivery
in my server logs. You did use the email address ending in,
', yes? There is nothing to edit, and 'msnews.aosake.net'
won't go anywhere, because it is not a valid mailhost.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

I've resent it, to your 'Reply to' address ' ... -- Gene3

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:39:47 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

I've resent it, to your 'Reply to' address ' ... -- Gene3

I am looking for a log entry like this:

| T 20090921 163429 4ab5bf63 RCPT

I am only seeing the test I sent myself by using my "Reply" button in my
client, which automatically goes to the "Reply-To:" email address configured
in my client posting parameters.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:23:05 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

Ooops...
Nope, it went to your @msnews.aosake.net address, which is what shows in
your message headers here.

This is what will happen when Google mail tries:

| 09/22/09 11:45:29 dns msnews.aosake.net
| Canonical name: msnews.aosake.net
| Addresses:
| 127.0.0.1

That address which you see is intended as a spam foil.

I don't have a ' address for you,
so you'll have to clarify then I'll resend.

I've configured a working email address in the "Reply-To:" field of my
posting client. If you just use your client "Reply" button, and do not
modify the resulting email address in any way, shape, or form, it should
work. See my response to your later post, with the log entry of my test.

P.S. If the spammers pick this up, I'll just have to change it. No big deal
for me. But it is designed so that using the "Reply" button will do the job.
It seems to work nicely for posters who manage to inadvertently hit the
"Reply" button instead of the "Reply to Group" button.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

"Gene3" wrote in message
...
I thought this was a forum interested in such facts. It looks like I was
wrong. Good bye.
--Gene3

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[And another hoople-head joins the fray...]

Gene3 wrote:
The bug occurs with Windows Live Mail and Vista. It has nothing to do
with
Outlook, Outlook Express, or other mail/newsreader clients except that
they
(all of them) find such URLs dead, inactive because of the spurious
x-usc:
prefix. You can google for yourself and read about it, searchstring:
"x-usc
windows mail vista".

"N. Miller" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 05:10:47 -0500, Gene3 wrote:

To answer my own question: I did quite a bit of googling, and
discovered
that reports of this bug started over 2 years ago. So MS has ample
time
to
become aware of it, and their response is apparently to ignore it and
hope
it will go away. Or maybe they just don't care. The evolution of
windows
software has perhaps become too top heavy...

Does this bug exist in Windows Live Mail, or MS Outlook 2007? Even if
the
bug were discovered two years ago, it will never be addressed in MS
Outlook
Express because development stopped well over two years ago. Even
Windows
Mail (the Vista client, and different from Windows Live Mail) is older
than
that discovery date for the bug; as is MS Outlook 2003.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum