Office 2K3 Professional Home Use Program Product Key Invalid

Jeff

When a VL version is cancelled by the Company,Educational Institution or Government
then the key gets cancelled immediately or otherwise the key will end up running in
the wild and will be used as a Pirated key . People that signed up for the Home Use
Program will be able to use that key or give that key to others for illegal
installations if the Company does not cancel it. The OP has the issue because the
Company changed versions of Office and doing that they had to cancel the previous
version along with the VL key.

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All of the conditions listed -- closed company, not using the product anymore, and
so on -- all require the Product Key that is entered to be checked against a
database, which requires the PC that the installation is taking place on be
connected to the Internet at the time the product key is input.

If the product can be installed offline, then the product key must be able to
accepted during installation. Perhaps, and I do not disagree, the product has to
be activated later on, and this requires an online experience. During activation,
the product can then be checked against a database, and activation denied for the
various reasons listed.

But the OP said that the product key does not work, and the CD and the product key
would not know any of the conditions listed, and therefore would work if it was
the right one for the CD in hand.

Maybe, as you say, the issue is the VL, and you're right, I don't know how it
works. But despite that, the key and the installation wizard are not going to know
what changes in the original condition of the VL will have taken place since the
valid key was produced.





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Jeff

I do not think you know how a VL works. What you posted is fine for a Retail or
OEM version but not for a VL



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Matt

Could be many reasons for this.Best to contact the IT person at the Company
from where you purchased it through the Home Use Program

Some of the possible reasons:

Company has closed down
Company stopped issuing that version of Office for the Home Use Program
Company is not using that Office version anymore
You already activated once before

And many more possibilities




All of those are possible, but the CD and the Product Key won't know any of
them, so they are not reasons for the Key to not work. And, the key does not go
over the internet -- the product can be installed even if there is no internet
connection -- so it would not be rejected due to being cancelled.

I don't know why the key would not work, other than it is not the key for the
CD.

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Jeff

When a VL version is cancelled by the Company,Educational Institution or
Government then the key gets cancelled immediately or otherwise the key
will end up running in the wild and will be used as a Pirated key . People
that signed up for the Home Use Program will be able to use that key or
give that key to others for illegal installations if the Company does not
cancel it. The OP has the issue because the Company changed versions of
Office and doing that they had to cancel the previous version along with
the VL key.


I got that. How does the Installation Wizard _know_ that a key has been
cancelled?

If the machine is not online, it cannot verify the key against a database,
so how does the installer know to reject the key? The key is coded (or, it
was when I was working for a company that had a key for its product set) in
the installation utility -- I assume it was encrypted, but don't know or
care -- that went out with our stuff. The user input the key we gave him,
and that unlocked the feature set he paid for. Once the user got the CD and
a key, he could do whatever the key allowed, but we could not cancel the
key. We could sell him a new key so he could get access to more of our
stuff, and this allowed us to burn one CD with all of the features on it,
and have multiple keys to unlock different features. But the CD would have
no way of knowing anything about the styatus of any given key the user tried
to plug in, except that if the key was 12345, then Feature Set A would be
installed, and if 23456 was used then Feature Set B would be installed on
top of Feature Set A, and so on.

The customer would buy a feature set, then call back and say, "gee, this
stuff works good, but I want more." We could tell him to send in another $50
and we'll send a new key code, "Reinstall with the new key code and get the
stuff you want."

But once a code was out, we could not cancel it without burning a new CD,
but the old CD would work for its life with the key code the customer had.

How does the install wizard know that a once-valid key is no longer valid?

Jeff

And why do you think the key came back as not valid. On a VL when it asks you to
input the key it is not the same as on other Office versions. Inputting the key in a
VL goes directly (connects to the net)against a list of valid and working keys.
Jeff you are beating a dead horse here and this was the last response from me on
this subject and thread. Hopefully you now understand.

Office Enterprise and Office Pro Plus (that is what the (OP) has are VL versions and
are not available to the public only to the ones that I mentioned

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Jeff

When a VL version is cancelled by the Company,Educational Institution or
Government then the key gets cancelled immediately or otherwise the key will end
up running in the wild and will be used as a Pirated key . People that signed up
for the Home Use Program will be able to use that key or give that key to others
for illegal installations if the Company does not cancel it. The OP has the issue
because the Company changed versions of Office and doing that they had to cancel
the previous version along with the VL key.


I got that. How does the Installation Wizard _know_ that a key has been cancelled?

If the machine is not online, it cannot verify the key against a database, so how
does the installer know to reject the key? The key is coded (or, it was when I was
working for a company that had a key for its product set) in the installation
utility -- I assume it was encrypted, but don't know or care -- that went out with
our stuff. The user input the key we gave him, and that unlocked the feature set
he paid for. Once the user got the CD and a key, he could do whatever the key
allowed, but we could not cancel the key. We could sell him a new key so he could
get access to more of our stuff, and this allowed us to burn one CD with all of
the features on it, and have multiple keys to unlock different features. But the
CD would have no way of knowing anything about the styatus of any given key the
user tried to plug in, except that if the key was 12345, then Feature Set A would
be installed, and if 23456 was used then Feature Set B would be installed on top
of Feature Set A, and so on.

The customer would buy a feature set, then call back and say, "gee, this stuff
works good, but I want more." We could tell him to send in another $50 and we'll
send a new key code, "Reinstall with the new key code and get the stuff you want."

But once a code was out, we could not cancel it without burning a new CD, but the
old CD would work for its life with the key code the customer had.

How does the install wizard know that a once-valid key is no longer valid?

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Jeff

And why do you think the key came back as not valid.

My theory is that the installation wizard was looking for a different key
code. It was expecting to find 123 but was fed ABC. My theory is that the OP
got his apples and oranges mixed up -- he has a case with a code sticker on
it, but the CD inside the case is not the one that belongs to the code.

All I want to know is HOW the installation knows the key is bad, when it was
once good? If the machine that the software is being installed on was
offline, then the installation would fail before it got time to input the
key code. And the failure would be a warning that the target machine for the
install process needs to be online to continue.



On a VL when it asks you to
input the key it is not the same as on other Office versions. Inputting
the key in a VL goes directly (connects to the net)against a list of valid
and working keys.
Jeff you are beating a dead horse here and this was the last response from
me on this subject and thread. Hopefully you now understand.


Then, you are saying that a VL key cannot be used unless the machine has an
internet connection. I was not aware that it was necessary to establish an
internet connection to install from a CD.



Office Enterprise and Office Pro Plus (that is what the (OP) has are VL
versions and are not available to the public only to the ones that I
mentioned



I have Office Professional, and I can install it anywhere I want. I'm
certain that I could abuse the license agreement if I was dishonest. I know
for a fact that I have installed on my own machine, the machine has
developed HDD failures so I had to install a second time.

We are not sure what the OP has because he stated Professional Home. He did
not say Pro Plus or Enterprise.