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#61
May 9th, 2008, 05:09 PM
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ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook E
-- ...winston ms-mvp mail "ANONYMOUS" wrote in message ... Because there is no such thing as version 12. Could it be that he meant connecter for Office [with Outlook] version 12? Hope this helps. PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: @Scott: Why does the Download page still say "Version: 4" ??? ...winston wrote: Here's the link for Outlook Connector Version 12 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...c-5e9ea66322d4 
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#62
January 23rd, 2009, 10:35 PM
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ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook E
HOW ???
Please tell the rest of us who don't want Windows Live Mail -- "ju.c" wrote: I can get free Hotmail in OE, hehehe! ju.c "VanguardLH" wrote in message ... PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To set for OE General] Note: FollowUp-To ignored. Reply posted to all newsgroups since, according to PA Bear, they should all be related groups in which continued discussion is on-topic. Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express quote As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via Outlook Express... /quote Source: http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry Hmm, so they dropped WebDAV access for freebie accounts created after November 2004. Now they're dropping WebDAV access even for paid accounts (any create date) and forcing users to their Windows Live client which has security flaws and defects just so they can push their Hotmail users to use a client and connect to their HTTP servers that now support DeltaSync (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync). All so Microsoft doesn't have to support already established e-mail protocols and lock their Hotmail users into using Microsoft e-mail clients. Well, the microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop group should be getting a lot more busy. Wonder how many will simply choose to dump a local e-mail client and just go with the Windows Live Hotmail "full" webmail interface? Might be what Microsoft intends to happen, anyway, so they can push their Ajax-enabled webmail interface.
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#63
January 23rd, 2009, 11:14 PM
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ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook E
You really should get out more often, my dear. First of all, see
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5745.entry (05 Jun-08), which is a follow-up to http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry (17 Apr-08). Now see http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...e-hotmail.aspx (13 Jan-09) -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Nancy wrote: HOW ??? Please tell the rest of us who don't want Windows Live Mail I can get free Hotmail in OE, hehehe! ju.c "VanguardLH" wrote in message ... PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To set for OE General] Note: FollowUp-To ignored. Reply posted to all newsgroups since, according to PA Bear, they should all be related groups in which continued discussion is on-topic. Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express quote As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via Outlook Express... /quote Source: http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry Hmm, so they dropped WebDAV access for freebie accounts created after November 2004. Now they're dropping WebDAV access even for paid accounts (any create date) and forcing users to their Windows Live client which has security flaws and defects just so they can push their Hotmail users to use a client and connect to their HTTP servers that now support DeltaSync (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync). All so Microsoft doesn't have to support already established e-mail protocols and lock their Hotmail users into using Microsoft e-mail clients. Well, the microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop group should be getting a lot more busy. Wonder how many will simply choose to dump a local e-mail client and just go with the Windows Live Hotmail "full" webmail interface? Might be what Microsoft intends to happen, anyway, so they can push their Ajax-enabled webmail interface.
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#64
January 24th, 2009, 07:07 PM
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ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre
I probably should get out more often and I wouldn't have these PC problems.
Want to take me out to dinner? Since I really don't have any options but to do Windows Live Mail I 've decided to forget it and just use webmail for the hotmail account. I have some pop3 emails for my business and want to keep with Outlook Express for now. Thanks for your help. Nancy -- "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To set for OE General] Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express quote As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via Outlook Express... /quote Source: http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry ====================== Please Note: 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook Express. 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail. 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the installation! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Via the web-interface: http://www.microsoft.com/communities...mail .desktop Via your newsreader: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
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#65
January 24th, 2009, 07:32 PM
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MS Announces Changes For Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
Spot On!
Thousands are voting with you. -- DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor "Nancy" wrote in message ... I probably should get out more often and I wouldn't have these PC problems. Want to take me out to dinner? Since I really don't have any options but to do Windows Live Mail I 've decided to forget it and just use webmail for the hotmail account. I have some pop3 emails for my business and want to keep with Outlook Express for now. Thanks for your help. Nancy -- "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To set for OE General] Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express quote As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via Outlook Express... /quote Source: http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry ====================== Please Note: 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook Express. 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail. 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the installation! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Via the web-interface: http://www.microsoft.com/communities...mail .desktop Via your newsreader: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
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#66
January 24th, 2009, 09:38 PM
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ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre
"Nancy" wrote in message ... I probably should get out more often and I wouldn't have these PC problems. Want to take me out to dinner? Since I really don't have any options but to do Windows Live Mail I 've decided to forget it and just use webmail for the hotmail account. I have some pop3 emails for my business and want to keep with Outlook Express for now. Thanks for your help. Nancy -- "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To set for OE General] Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express quote As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via Outlook Express... /quote Source: http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry ====================== Please Note: 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook Express. 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail. 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the installation! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Via the web-interface: http://www.microsoft.com/communities...mail .desktop Via your newsreader: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
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#67
January 24th, 2009, 10:12 PM
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ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre
Nancy wrote:
I probably should get out more often and I wouldn't have these PC problems. Want to take me out to dinner? Boy, are you barking up the wrong tree, girlfriend! eg Since I really don't have any options but to do Windows Live Mail I 've decided to forget it and just use webmail for the hotmail account. I have some pop3 emails for my business and want to keep with Outlook Express for now. Thanks for your help. YW but if you'd bother to check out the links in my previous reply you'd see that accessing free Hotmail accounts in OE, OL, and any other Mail Client via POP3 is either available now or will be soon. -- ~PA Bear
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#69
January 27th, 2009, 12:17 PM
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ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre
PA Bear,
MS has delayed the "Disabling of the DAV protocol used in accessing legacy Hotmail accts (pre Sept 2001) through Outlook Express and OUTLOOK. And they have not announced the new date, that the intend to disable DAV for good. Microsoft Extends Deadline for Outlook Link to Hotmail http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...d=635212&num=4 In the article it also mentions Outlook Express, for this extension. I do not know how that effects non MS mail applications like Thunderbird, Mozilla, etc... I still download messages through OE & Outlook for my Hotmail acct, that was established before Sept 2001. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) message rule Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To set for OE General] Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express quote As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via Outlook Express... /quote Source: http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry ====================== Please Note: 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook Express. 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail. 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the installation! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Via the web-interface: http://www.microsoft.com/communities...mail .desktop Via your newsreader: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
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#70
January 27th, 2009, 04:05 PM
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ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre
My post dates from 18 April 2008 and most replies to it were made within the
next 2 or 3 weeks. "Nancy" rediscovered the thread on 23 January 2009 and gave it new life. (My original post had all Follow-up set for OE General newsgroup.) There have been many developments since April 2008, including this: http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...e-hotmail.aspx. -- ~PA Bear Rich/rerat wrote: PA Bear, MS has delayed the "Disabling of the DAV protocol used in accessing legacy Hotmail accts (pre Sept 2001) through Outlook Express and OUTLOOK. And they have not announced the new date, that the intend to disable DAV for good. Microsoft Extends Deadline for Outlook Link to Hotmail http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/0...d=635212&num=4 In the article it also mentions Outlook Express, for this extension. I do not know how that effects non MS mail applications like Thunderbird, Mozilla, etc... I still download messages through OE & Outlook for my Hotmail acct, that was established before Sept 2001. [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To set for OE General] Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express quote As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via Outlook Express... /quote Source: http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/...708!5359.entry ====================== Please Note: 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook Express. 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail. 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the installation! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop Via the web-interface: http://www.microsoft.com/communities...mail .desktop Via your newsreader: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
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