unable to compact all folders in OE

That's my take. Something else is tying it up.

She should take a look he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 and make sure no
other program is interfering.

steve

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...
What are you running for antivirus, spam, internet security?
--
Ronald Sommer

"marrie" wrote in message
...
: follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but now it
still
: says the same mesage even though all folders are closed and I'm off
line.
: This is nuts!
:
:

My antivirus to my knoledge does not do email scanning at all. I use windows
xpsp2. Is there a way to reinstall outlook express with out reinstalling
xpsp2? I no that sounds drastic but I'm pulling out my hair here. Thanks.

Steve Cochran wrote:
: That's my take. Something else is tying it up.
:
: She should take a look he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 and make
: sure no other program is interfering.
:
: steve
:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
: ...
: What are you running for antivirus, spam, internet security?
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:
: "marrie" wrote in message
: ...
: : follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but now
: : it still says the same mesage even though all folders are closed
: : and I'm off line. This is nuts!

AVG free for antivirus. no spam checker. my ISP does that for me, and add
aware free. That's all I run, besides spybot, sometimes. Thanks.

Ron Sommer wrote:
: What are you running for antivirus, spam, internet security?
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:
: "marrie" wrote in message
: ...
: : follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but now
: : it still says the same mesage even though all folders are closed
: : and I'm off line. This is nuts!

Did you install AVG in Custom Mode originally, or disable e-mail scanning
after the install?

Reinstall AVG and choose Custom Mode. Uncheck E-mail Scanning when you see
that option. For some reason, just unchecking it in the security center
causes a conflict with the Windows Security Center.

Make sure you reboot when you're done.

Think about any other programs you might have. I use a mail alert program
that notifies even for newsgroups as it reads dbx file size increases to
activate the notification. I have to compact before turning this program on
as it will cause it to stall on the Folders File.

I still don't understand why it wont let you drag the prompt out of the way
to see what folder it is getting stuck on. If it was me, I would go ahead
and delete Folders.dbx with OE closed and see if that fixes it.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"marrie" wrote in message
...
AVG free for antivirus. no spam checker. my ISP does that for me, and add
aware free. That's all I run, besides spybot, sometimes. Thanks.

Ron Sommer wrote:
: What are you running for antivirus, spam, internet security?
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:
: "marrie" wrote in message
: ...
: : follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but now
: : it still says the same mesage even though all folders are closed
: : and I'm off line. This is nuts!

You're welcome, Marrie. Happy to be of assistance.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

marrie wrote:
Thanks. I got it working after about 2 hours of trying and retrying and
retrying. i'll be sure to compact at least once a day to prevent this
trouble from happeneing in the first place. I don't archive messages int
ehinbox. I always use rules to move them to seprate folders. Thanks
again!j

PA Bear wrote:
This KB article might be a little dense (hard to decipher) but...

How to Backup and Restore Outlook Express Blocked Senders List and
Other Mail Rules:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/276511/

Despite what the Applies To section says, it does apply to OE6,
Marrie.

Also see http://www.insideoe.com/backup/partial.htm
--
~PA Bear

marrie wrote:
Ok. I created a new identity and it works, for now at least. Now I
can't import my OE rules. I tried editing the reg key withthe new
identity but no
go.I rebooted to make sure my system was rebootable but my rules
are not there at all. I did a past so I now the identity number is
right. Thanks.


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
[I have read all replies in this thread as of this post.]

Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the
default Main Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new
Named Identity (File
Identities Add new identity). Assuming all is well in the new
identity:

1. Open the old identity Tools Options Maintenance Store
folder will reveal the location of the identity's store
(http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain). Write it
down.

In WinXP, Win2K and Win2K03, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by
default marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer,
you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start
Control Panel Folder Options View.

2. Close OE.

3. Delete the file FOLDERS.DBX from your old identity's store.
[NB: If you've already done this, skip this step. This will cause
you to lose the
mail tree structure (Folders pane), the list of newsgroups on all
newsservers, all synchronization options/settings, and most
message rules will need to be edited.]

4. Open OE to the new identity and Import messages from the old
identity into it. See
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/how.htm#importOE5

5. Now delete the old one (File Identities Manage Identities).

To avoid such corruption in futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
local folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and
frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while
"working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also
cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

marrie wrote:
I tried that, restarted, removed my temp files, restarted,
removed my prefetch files, and restarted but i get tis message
every time i try and compact.

PA Bear wrote:
We all run into this every now and then (usually when we've
created, moved or renamed a folder during the OE session).
Simply close OE, reopen it and compact again.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

marrie wrote:
Hello. I've followed these directions from


http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...orruption.mspx
and all seemed to go well but I got the following error
message. Outlook Express

The folder is currently in use by Outlook Express or by another
application.

OK Cancel

How can this be if I had teh folders list closed and hidden
from view and i
was off line? Ive been trying to solve this problem for months
without success. Thanks.

If you close OE, reopen to the new identity and compact manually again, does
the behavior persist, Marrie?

If not: Did you (1) make sure that Sent Items and Deleted items were empty,
(2) close OE, (3) delete the file Folders.dbx from the original identity's
message store, (4) open OE, and (5) compact all folders before you imported
the messages into the new identity?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


marrie wrote:
follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but now it still
says the same mesage even though all folders are closed and I'm off line.
This is nuts!

I cold del folders.dbx but the last timei did that the problem still arose.
Also I can't for some reason drag and drop folders to get them to the way
they were. Also the total size of the whole OE folder is about 512mb. I'm
trying to shrink this down.
Thanks.

Bruce Hagen wrote:
: Did you install AVG in Custom Mode originally, or disable e-mail
: scanning after the install?
:
: Reinstall AVG and choose Custom Mode. Uncheck E-mail Scanning when
: you see that option. For some reason, just unchecking it in the
: security center causes a conflict with the Windows Security Center.
:
: Make sure you reboot when you're done.
:
: Think about any other programs you might have. I use a mail alert
: program that notifies even for newsgroups as it reads dbx file size
: increases to activate the notification. I have to compact before
: turning this program on as it will cause it to stall on the Folders
: File.
:
: I still don't understand why it wont let you drag the prompt out of
: the way to see what folder it is getting stuck on. If it was me, I
: would go ahead and delete Folders.dbx with OE closed and see if that
: fixes it. --
: Bruce Hagen
: MS-MVP Outlook Express
: ~IB-CA~
:
: "marrie" wrote in message
: ...
: AVG free for antivirus. no spam checker. my ISP does that for me,
: and add aware free. That's all I run, besides spybot, sometimes.
: Thanks.
:
: Ron Sommer wrote:
: : What are you running for antivirus, spam, internet security?
: : --
: : Ronald Sommer
: :
: : "marrie" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but
: : : now it still says the same mesage even though all folders are
: : : closed and I'm off line. This is nuts!

I compacted before importing the messages and after nd it worked, but now it
is not. I'll have a look at my security programs to see what in the blazes
is going on.

PA Bear wrote:
: If you close OE, reopen to the new identity and compact manually
: again, does the behavior persist, Marrie?
:
: If not: Did you (1) make sure that Sent Items and Deleted items were
: empty, (2) close OE, (3) delete the file Folders.dbx from the
: original identity's message store, (4) open OE, and (5) compact all
: folders before you imported the messages into the new identity?
: --
: ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
: MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
: AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
:
:
: marrie wrote:
: follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but now it
: still says the same mesage even though all folders are closed and
: I'm off line. This is nuts!

But did you do #1 through #3 /before/ you compacted?
--
~PA Bear

marrie wrote:
I compacted before importing the messages and after nd it worked, but now
it
is not. I'll have a look at my security programs to see what in the blazes
is going on.

PA Bear wrote:
If you close OE, reopen to the new identity and compact manually
again, does the behavior persist, Marrie?

If not: Did you (1) make sure that Sent Items and Deleted items were
empty, (2) close OE, (3) delete the file Folders.dbx from the
original identity's message store, (4) open OE, and (5) compact all
folders before you imported the messages into the new identity?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


marrie wrote:
follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but now it
still says the same mesage even though all folders are closed and
I'm off line. This is nuts!

What anti-virus are you using?

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com


"marrie" wrote in message
...
My antivirus to my knoledge does not do email scanning at all. I use
windows xpsp2. Is there a way to reinstall outlook express with out
reinstalling xpsp2? I no that sounds drastic but I'm pulling out my hair
here. Thanks.

Steve Cochran wrote:
: That's my take. Something else is tying it up.
:
: She should take a look he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 and make
: sure no other program is interfering.
:
: steve
:
: "Ron Sommer" wrote in message
: ...
: What are you running for antivirus, spam, internet security?
: --
: Ronald Sommer
:
: "marrie" wrote in message
: ...
: : follow up. the new identity worked for the first compact but now
: : it still says the same mesage even though all folders are closed
: : and I'm off line. This is nuts!