Outlook Express and antivirus checking

"Michel Merlin"
...
In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see my reply in the
other NG (links are clickable):

From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Message:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/%23Vf8Ys...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 15:07:00 +0200 (13:07:00 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking?

(Ending the X-posting)
.................

Versailles, Wed 16 May 2007 15:35:40 +0200

(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

I add that, oppositely to what was said (including by myself), X-posting FAILS to download the message only once; while OTOH it DOES address (albeit partially, illogically and misleadingly) the « readers' bandwidth »:

- when syncing the 1st newsgroup the message loads and I can read it;
- when syncing the 2nd NG the "message" (in facts, its header) is already here, is "unbolded" (i.e. shown as "Read"), but when I try to read it, its *body* is NOT here, I have to explicitly download it to read it.

Now for the "egoes":

- Message of Wed 16 May 2007 14:11:19 GMT was so wrong, so stupid, so irrelevant (thus so full of contempt), that it immediately showed that the author had such an immense consideration for himself, hence accordingly such a tiny one for others' and for facts or technics, that the probability of getting any useful discussion was 0.xx%.
- Sure my way of replying was not efficient. But which one would have been? The only thing that could be done or tried was someone disinterested enough to tell loud what none could normally dare to tell, knowing that the eventual benefit (initial author realizing, admitting, apologizing, and starting issue anew) was unlikely ever, and null in short term and for the replier.
- Unfortunately, as feared, my reply just hit nerves of 4 "egoes" so bloated that, while having nothing to post about the issue, they posted however - just to tout their "egoes" and swap the roles (as usually done in such posts).
- The most bloated "egoes" (e.g. Sat 19 May 2007 18:50:11 GMT) went as far as posting mostly to pretend that they didn't reply me :-) ! Expect them to be embarrassed about replying or not this time ;-) but probably not worried a single bit about replying the isssue (Referrencing Multiposting Cross-posting, and more generally, the most efficient ways of exchanging reliable information).

Too bad when you remember what were MS NGs at the beginning.

Versailles, Mon 28 May 2007 16:45:20 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Sat 19 May 2007 13:50:11 -0500 (18:50:11 GMT)
Subject: X-posting nearly as bad as "Multiposting" and MUCH worse than REFERRING

I plonked Michel long ago. I wish people wouldn't answer him.
--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Poprivet"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 16:59:04 -0400 (20:59:04 GMT)
Subject: X-posting nearly as bad as "Multiposting" and MUCH worse than REFERRING

Wow, some egoes(SP?) sure are big! An entire irrelevant resume of unrelated experience and no point to make. Maybe it's at the end somewhere but any "knowing" person would know to present it properly. I read what was on the screen and, well, ... poof!

Pop`


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/OMLnb88l...TNGP06.phx.gbl
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 17:30:15 +0200 (15:30:15 GMT)
Subject: X-posting nearly as bad as "Multiposting" and MUCH worse than REFERRING

Please. You will learn some day that, the more educated, instructed and experienced you are, the more you discover others are too. Only when badly under-provided do you live in the illusion that others would be even lower than you. In my case I have been leading thousands people for decades (engineers, engineer pupils, ...), handling large public contracts and large public organizations; I also entirely wrote (1977-1994) large programs in domains like high speed layout (TGV, highways) and engineering (numerical analysis, structural analysis, ....), with a level of easiness, precision, domain extension, reliability, and resulting productivity, then unknown in big organizations (like Microsoft). Handling large amounts of critical information (like computing bridges or writing international contracts or defining public laws) leads to find back the basics; involved here are the information *unicity* (or more generally, *hierarchy*); you visibly are still far behind all this here (while you may be uneducated and uninstructed to the point of being completely unable to realize or admit it).

The article you link is only dealing with the low-level problem of *downloading and storing* the messages to your PC; it completely ignores all the higher level issues, like readers' bandwidth (i.e. the time you spend browsing newsgroups, reading different appearances of a same message before being sure it's thrice the same, replying properly, etc.).

Cross-posting obviously was implemented, and is applied, by people too fast-thinking and acting, who never seriously thought of all this. "Multiposting" (as meant in your link) is very little different (just aggravating on the downloading and storing).

A much more proper way would be to apply the basic principles (as usually done e.g. in DBs), i.e. posting the actual information ONLY ONCE, and then in the other places, to only REFER to it. You rarely copy, and when copying you never *duplicate*, you *replicate* (which implies a proper hierarchy).

This (referring) is what I tried. I mistook when executing it, and as frequent in such situation, I mistook a 2nd time when trying to correct in a hurry (well, *you* won't see it as mistaken since what I did wrong is your beloved cross-posting). A normally instructed and educated person would silently empathize, indulge and ignore the errors, focuse on the ground - while eventually patiently waiting for right correction. You instead just add a comment at the same time uselessly irritating, and uselessly increasing the mess, by its simple existence (one more message), and above all because full wrong and misleading for any other fast-reader: what I was attempting was REFERRING, i.e. the CONTRARY of "multiposting". No doubt that with people like you MS is fast approaching its obvious goal: sabotaging the once efficient MS public newsgroups.

{Sorry for this recall. Regular persons can't *always* remain silent when scorned by arrogant-ignorants}

Versailles, Wed 16 May 2007 17:30:15 +0200
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge -- Charles Darwin


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Bruce Hagen"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/%23885RQ...TNGP02.phx.gbl
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 07:11:19 -0700 (14:11:19 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

Crossposting is preferred over multiposting such as this.

Multiposting vs Crossposting:
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 15:35:40 +0200 (13:35:40 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see my reply in the other NG (links are clickable):

................................

(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

Today Mon 28 May 2007 16:12 +0200 in my newsreader (OE 6.00.2900.2180), clicking:

does load me the required message:

« In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see... »

First questions (just to make sure):

- Which newsreader are you using?
- Is it configured properly? How?
- Which news server have you as default?
- Is « » (without the French quotes and their spaces) displayed as a link (i.e. underlined, blue initially, purple when visited), and this for the link *entire* (i.e. from "news://" to "phx.gbl")?

I guess this is in facts one of the myriads results of the addressing system in news (was just built day after day by extending what was designed for email, then used for mailing lists in early newsgroups - and never got the time to be really thought and designed for itself; e.g. no URLs).

In OE, the way I use to write the address for the message does work even if the concerned news server (here "msnews.microsoft.com") is NOT my default news server. But it can be different in some other newsreaders, hence my questions.

Versailles, Mon 28 May 2007 16:45:45 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "N. Miller"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/1b4q7s8g...ews.aosake.net
Sent: Sat 19 May 2007 18:27:22 -0700 (Sun 20 May 2007 01:27:22 GMT)
Subject: (Sorry I misposted) Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

Interesting. My reader throws up an error: "Could not find group "". You *could* set a "Followup-To:" to direct replies to the related group.
--
Norman
~Where is the place I'm going to?
~Now a voice is beginning to sing
~It's reaching me, leading me...
~Raising me to heaven


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/OMmwJ88l...TNGP04.phx.gbl
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 17:29:45 +0200 (15:29:45 GMT)
Subject: (Sorry I misposted) Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

Sorry I misposted. I just corrected by posting completed and in the right place, see parent AND "RELATED" messages below.

Versailles, Wed 16 May 2007 17:29:45 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 15:35:40 +0200 (13:35:40 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see my reply in the other NG...
.............

Versailles, Wed 16 May 2007 15:35:40 +0200


----- RELATED Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/OX0Y5U8l...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Wednesday 16 May 2007 16:19
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see my reply in the other NG (links are clickable):

From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/%23Vf8Ys...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 15:07:00 +0200 (13:07:00 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking?

(Ending the X-posting)
.................

Versailles, Wed 16 May 2007 16:19:30 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Bruce Hagen"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/ef0BhfGY...TNGP06.phx.gbl
Sent: Tue 6 Mar 2007 19:22:50 -0800 (Wed 7 Mar 2007 03:22:50 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and antivirus checking

E-mail scanning is a redundant option that wreaks havoc with OE...
....................

(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

See my reply « Pros and cons of I/O mail RT scanning (AntiVirus, AntiSpam)? » in Newsgroup1 (trying to stop X-posting).

Versailles, Mon 28 May 2007 16:46:10 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Lindsay Graham"
Newsgroup1: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Newsgroup2: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/ek27nwPa...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Sun 18 Mar 2007 12:24:31 +1100 (01:24:31 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and antivirus checking

I said I'd post the result here, but basically, there was no result. If you want to share in the frustration that I felt g, have a look at the AVG Forum URL below -- the only person who responded substantively refused to address the reasons given on this newsgroup as to why it's better to turn off the email scanner, and after going round in circles for quite some, I gave up.

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia


----- Parent Messages...............

"N. Miller" escribió en el mensaje
...
On Mon, 28 May 2007 16:45:45 +0200, Michel Merlin wrote:

From: "N. Miller"

Interesting. My reader throws up an error: "Could not find group
"".

(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

Today Mon 28 May 2007 16:12 +0200 in my newsreader (OE 6.00.2900.2180),
clicking:

does load me the required message:

« In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see... »

First questions (just to make sure):

- Which newsreader are you using?

40tude Dialog.

- Is it configured properly? How?

Yes. Server is set to 'msnews.microsoft.com'

- Which news server have you as default?

There is no "default" news server. There are distinct "Identities", each
of
which is associated to a specific news server. From the Identity field I
get
a drop down menu with a list of the configured "Identities".

- Is «
»
(without the French quotes and their spaces) displayed as a link (i.e.
underlined,
blue initially, purple when visited), and this for the link *entire*
(i.e. from
"news://" to "phx.gbl")?

Yes.

I guess this is in facts one of the myriads results of the addressing
system in news
(was just built day after day by extending what was designed for email,
then used for
mailing lists in early newsgroups - and never got the time to be really
thought and
designed for itself; e.g. no URLs).

In OE, the way I use to write the address for the message does work even
if the concerned
news server (here "msnews.microsoft.com") is NOT my default news server.
But it can be
different in some other newsreaders, hence my questions.

The construct you use points to a Message-ID string
"), not a group. 40tude Dialog
parsed
that line looking for a group called,
"; and, naturally, can't find such a
group because there is no such group on 'msnews.microsoft.com'.

If I copy the URL as you posted it and paste it into the Opera 9.21
address
bar, Opera also throws an error:

| Mail and chat
|
msnews.microsoft.com (temporary)

| 411 no such newsgroup

This suggests that your URL is badly formatted. Trying it this way in
Opera:

|
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke

Opera will now subscribe me to the group,
"microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express" instead of
throwing a "no such group" error.

It remains to be seen (after I post this) if 40tude Dialog will go
directly
to the message (as Opera did not).

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Michel Merlin wrote:
(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

See my reply « Pros and cons of I/O mail RT scanning (AntiVirus,
AntiSpam)? » in Newsgroup1 (trying to stop X-posting).

Versailles, Mon 28 May 2007 16:46:10 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Lindsay Graham"
Newsgroup1:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Newsgroup2:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/ek27nwPa...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Sun 18 Mar 2007 12:24:31 +1100 (01:24:31 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and antivirus checking

I said I'd post the result here, but basically, there was no result.
If you want to share in the frustration that I felt g, have a look
at the AVG Forum URL below -- the only person who responded
substantively refused to address the reasons given on this newsgroup
as to why it's better to turn off the email scanner, and after going
round in circles for quite some, I gave up.

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia


----- Parent Messages...............


--
--
How to Post to more than one group:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting

"Poprivet" wrote in message
...
Michel Merlin wrote:
(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

See my reply « Pros and cons of I/O mail RT scanning (AntiVirus,
AntiSpam)? » in Newsgroup1 (trying to stop X-posting).

Versailles, Mon 28 May 2007 16:46:10 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Lindsay Graham"
Newsgroup1:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Newsgroup2:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/ek27nwPa...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Sun 18 Mar 2007 12:24:31 +1100 (01:24:31 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and antivirus checking

I said I'd post the result here, but basically, there was no result.
If you want to share in the frustration that I felt g, have a look
at the AVG Forum URL below -- the only person who responded
substantively refused to address the reasons given on this newsgroup
as to why it's better to turn off the email scanner, and after going
round in circles for quite some, I gave up.

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia


----- Parent Messages...............


--
--
How to Post to more than one group:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting





Put Michel in your killfile, Pop. He will never conform to the standards of
posting that we are used to. It is useless to reply to any of his posts.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

Unfortunately there is no URL (Universal Resource Locator) in *news*, because the news system has never been thought as a whole, and has been built instead day after day by adapting what was used for group mailing lists. Now those mailing lists were using the *mail* system, that of course has no URL since mail resources are private hence need no *universal* locators (While of course *web* resources do require universal locators).

To make for URLs I built a few pseudo-URL formats, by testing (in IE and OE, and a few times in FF and TB) and trying and failing and successing; you can see them in the headers of my "Parent Messages" at the bottom of all my messages. Here are (on our example) those pseudo-URL formats:

- Newsgroup (works): news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
- Message 1 (works):
- Message 2 (works only if the message is present on the default news server):
- Message 3 (fails): news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke

As you see I use only the 2 first formats, that work reliably (in IE and OE), and not the 2 others, that don't.
Thanks for your reporting that http://www.40tude.com/dialog fails on "Message 1" and brings the Newsgroup (instead of the Message) when clicking "Message 3".
Please could you in addition click (in 40tude) on links "Newsgroup" and "Message 2", and report. TIA,

Versailles, Fri 1 Jun 2007 09:15:20 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "N. Miller"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/147zpvn3...ews.aosake.net
Sent: Tue 29 May 2007 08:24:25 -0700 (15:24:25 GMT)
Subject: Which newsreader are ou using? Which default news server?

- Which newsreader are you using?

40tude Dialog.

- Is it configured properly? How?

Yes. Server is set to 'msnews.microsoft.com'

- Which news server have you as default?

There is no "default" news server. There are distinct "Identities", each of which is associated to a specific news server. From the Identity field I get a drop down menu with a list of the configured "Identities".

- Is « »
(without the French quotes and their spaces) displayed as a link (i.e. underlined,
blue initially, purple when visited), and this for the link *entire* (i.e. from
"news://" to "phx.gbl")?

Yes.

In OE, the way I use to write the address for the message
does work even if the concerned news server
(here "msnews.microsoft.com") is NOT my default news server.
But it can be different in some other newsreaders,
hence my questions.

The construct you use points to a Message-ID string "), not a group.
40tude Dialog parsed that line looking for a group called, ";
and, naturally, can't find such a group because there is no such group on 'msnews.microsoft.com'.

If I copy the URL as you posted it and paste it into the Opera 9.21 address bar, Opera also throws an error:

| Mail and chat
|
msnews.microsoft.com (temporary)

| 411 no such newsgroup

This suggests that your URL is badly formatted. Trying it this way in Opera:

| news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke

Opera will now subscribe me to the group, "microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlook express" instead of throwing a "no such group" error.

It remains to be seen (after I post this) if 40tude Dialog will go directly to the message (as Opera did not).

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/uvJJhbTo...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Mon 28 May 2007 16:45:45 +0200 (14:45:45 GMT)
Subject: Which newsreader are ou using? Which default news server?

(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

Today Mon 28 May 2007 16:12 +0200 in my newsreader (OE 6.00.2900.2180), clicking:

does load me the required message:

« In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see... »

First questions (just to make sure):

- Which newsreader are you using?
- Is it configured properly? How?
- Which news server have you as default?
- Is « » (without the French quotes and their spaces) displayed as a link (i.e. underlined, blue initially, purple when visited), and this for the link *entire* (i.e. from "news://" to "phx.gbl")?

I guess this is in facts one of the myriads results of the addressing system in news (was just built day after day by extending what was designed for email, then used for mailing lists in early newsgroups - and never got the time to be really thought and designed for itself; e.g. no URLs).

In OE, the way I use to write the address for the message does work even if the concerned news server (here "msnews.microsoft.com") is NOT my default news server. But it can be different in some other newsreaders, hence my questions.

Versailles, Mon 28 May 2007 16:45:45 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "N. Miller"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/1b4q7s8g...ews.aosake.net
Sent: Sat 19 May 2007 18:27:22 -0700 (Sun 20 May 2007 01:27:22 GMT)
Subject: (Sorry I misposted) Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

Interesting. My reader throws up an error: "Could not find group "". You *could* set a "Followup-To:" to direct replies to the related group.
--
Norman
~Where is the place I'm going to?
~Now a voice is beginning to sing
~It's reaching me, leading me...
~Raising me to heaven


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/OMmwJ88l...TNGP04.phx.gbl
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 17:29:45 +0200 (15:29:45 GMT)
Subject: (Sorry I misposted) Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

Sorry I misposted. I just corrected by posting completed and in the right place, see parent AND "RELATED" messages below.

Versailles, Wed 16 May 2007 17:29:45 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message:
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 15:35:40 +0200 (13:35:40 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see my reply in the other NG...
.............

Versailles, Wed 16 May 2007 15:35:40 +0200


----- RELATED Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/OX0Y5U8l...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Wednesday 16 May 2007 16:19
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking? (Ending the X-posting)

In an attempt at stopping the Cross-Posting, please see my reply in the other NG (links are clickable):

From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/%23Vf8Ys...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Wed 16 May 2007 15:07:00 +0200 (13:07:00 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and AntiSPAM checking?

(Ending the X-posting)
.................

Versailles, Wed 16 May 2007 16:19:30 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Bruce Hagen"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/ef0BhfGY...TNGP06.phx.gbl
Sent: Tue 6 Mar 2007 19:22:50 -0800 (Wed 7 Mar 2007 03:22:50 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and antivirus checking

E-mail scanning is a redundant option that wreaks havoc with OE...
....................

Why Post to ONLY one group: news://msnews.microsoft.com/OMLnb88l...NGP06.phx.gbl:

A much more proper way would be to apply the basic principles
(as usually done e.g. in DBs), i.e. posting the actual
information ONLY ONCE, and then in the other places, to
only REFER to it. You rarely copy, and when copying you
never *duplicate*, you *replicate* (which implies a proper
hierarchy).

Versailles, Fri 1 Jun 2007 11:04:35 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Poprivet"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/uBJHcpjo...TNGP04.phx.gbl
Sent: Tue 29 May 2007 17:44:41 -0400 (21:44:41 GMT)
Subject: (Referring to reply in the other NG)

How to Post to more than one group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/un9EwbTo...TNGP05.phx.gbl
Sent: Mon 28 May 2007 16:46:10 +0200 (14:46:10 GMT)
Subject: (Referring to reply in the other NG)

(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

See my reply « Pros and cons of I/O mail RT scanning (AntiVirus, AntiSpam)? » in Newsgroup1 (trying to stop X-posting).

Versailles, Mon 28 May 2007 16:46:10 +0200


----- Parent Message (links are clickable) -----
From: "Lindsay Graham"
Newsgroup1: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Newsgroup2: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/ek27nwPa...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Sun 18 Mar 2007 12:24:31 +1100 (01:24:31 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and antivirus checking

I said I'd post the result here, but basically, there was no result. If you want to share in the frustration that I felt g, have a look at the AVG Forum URL below -- the only person who responded substantively refused to address the reasons given on this newsgroup as to why it's better to turn off the email scanner, and after going round in circles for quite some, I gave up.

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia


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« Put Michel in your killfile »

Bruce's choice (so he won't see my reply - or will he? ;-) ). On my side I never killfile anyone - even Bruce. I am open, and I prefer (and am accustomed to) being filekilled than filekiller, lynched than lyncher, stolen than thief, lied than liar, calumniated than calumniator.

« He will never conform to the standards »

Bruce perfectly knows this is the contrary of the truth (in Engish: a lie). I not only comply as far as I can with standards (and certainly more than Bruce Hagen!), but I try to comply with their letter *and spirit*, which implies trying to help fix and improve them where they need. If the current standard satisfy us, it is because of the work other did fixing and improving them; our turn to go on. For this, see my reply to Poprivet.

« It is useless to reply to any of his posts »

Then why does Bruce Hagen so often reply to them: only to tell he doesn't reply? or to demonstrate his level of usefulness and helpfulness? ;-)

Versailles, Fri 1 Jun 2007 11:05:00 +0200


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From: "Bruce Hagen"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/%234TS1S...TNGP02.phx.gbl
Sent: Tue 29 May 2007 17:51:53 -0700 (Wed 30 May 2007 00:51:53 GMT)
Subject: (Referring to reply in the other NG)

Put Michel in your killfile, Pop. He will never conform to the standards of posting that we are used to. It is useless to reply to any of his posts.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~


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From: "Poprivet"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/uBJHcpjo...TNGP04.phx.gbl
Sent: Tue 29 May 2007 17:44:41 -0400 (21:44:41 GMT)
Subject: (Referring to reply in the other NG)

How to Post to more than one group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting


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From: "Michel Merlin"
Newsgroup: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/un9EwbTo...TNGP05.phx.gbl
Sent: Mon 28 May 2007 16:46:10 +0200 (14:46:10 GMT)
Subject: (Referring to reply in the other NG)

(Sorry I didn't revisit here earlier)

See my reply « Pros and cons of I/O mail RT scanning (AntiVirus, AntiSpam)? » in Newsgroup1 (trying to stop X-posting).

Versailles, Mon 28 May 2007 16:46:10 +0200


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From: "Lindsay Graham"
Newsgroup1: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
Newsgroup2: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
Message: news://msnews.microsoft.com/ek27nwPa...TNGP03.phx.gbl
Sent: Sun 18 Mar 2007 12:24:31 +1100 (01:24:31 GMT)
Subject: Outlook Express and antivirus checking

I said I'd post the result here, but basically, there was no result. If you want to share in the frustration that I felt g, have a look at the AVG Forum URL below -- the only person who responded substantively refused to address the reasons given on this newsgroup as to why it's better to turn off the email scanner, and after going round in circles for quite some, I gave up.

Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia


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