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  #11  
Old October 9th, 2004, 07:25 PM
chinnu
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Hello Doug
Lets try these steps to create a pdf file.
1. Install Generic printer MS Publisher Imagesetter.

Click on Start-Printer and faxes-add printer and in
manufacturer column select Generic and in type of printer
column select MS Publisher Image setter.
And install it.

2. Create a document in word and click in file -print-in
print window check the option print to file and the print
to file window is opened and give the file name in double
quotes as "Name of the file.ps" on the desktop.

3. Open the site ps2pdf.com and in that site we have
convert button.
4. click on convert button and another window is displayed
in that Browse button is present click on browse and
select the file you have created and click on open button.

5. click on convert button, it converts and displays the
pfd document in the browser.
6. To save it on the desktop right click on the file and
click on save target as and save it on the desktop.

Thank you for using
for your disscussions.
byeeeee.
  #12  
Old October 10th, 2004, 12:30 AM
Jezebel
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Unless the author assumed that newsletter is being assembled using top-end
commercial printing software, for which PDF may well be the *only*
acceptable format.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the author is supplying this file for inclusion in a newsletter, then

it
is absurd to supply it as a PDF. I can assure you that it was not

originally
created as a PDF. If the author is using Word, ask for the document in

Word
format. If he/she is using another word processor, ask for it as an RTF
file; all word processors can create (and open) those.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup

so
all may benefit.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
The whole point of PDF is to produce transportable documents that cannot

be
edited. If you need to include the content in a document and the author

is
willing, then the obvious plan is to get the document in an editable

format.

PDF files can be produced with varying levels of encryption which can

make
them difficult to convert, but there are applications that will convert
them, and if all else fails you can print the document and scan into OCR
software. And of course Acrobat will open the files for editing

(provided
you have the password - if applied).

Another approach is to use a screen capture tool like the excellent

SnagIt.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org




Doug Freese wrote:
"macropod" wrote in message
...
Hi Doug,

You can't insert a PDF into Word the way you might insert a picture,
another
Word file, or Excel spreadsheet, because neither MS nor Adobe make
the necessary filters for this.

You don't think is done on purpose? Insert faciteous smile.

The best you can do is to insert the PDF as a
hyperlinked object that can be clicked on to open by the recipient -
hardly
very useful for a printed copy.

Hyperlinked files don't survive snail mail.


What that leaves you with is the option of copying & pasting from the
PDF,
or using a converter such as Solid Converter to convert the PDF into
a Word-compatible format. Better still, get the author to save the
PDF using
'Save As' and choosing the 'Rich text Format (RTF)' option.

I sent a note to the author to use the save as option but I had no
idea what extension to suggest not having a writer. Thanks for the
lead and your time.

-Doug






  #13  
Old October 10th, 2004, 03:31 AM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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But in that case the finished newsletter would be converted to a PDF. It's
absurd to try to assemble a newsletter from bits and pieces of PDF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
Unless the author assumed that newsletter is being assembled using top-end
commercial printing software, for which PDF may well be the *only*
acceptable format.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the author is supplying this file for inclusion in a newsletter, then

it
is absurd to supply it as a PDF. I can assure you that it was not

originally
created as a PDF. If the author is using Word, ask for the document in

Word
format. If he/she is using another word processor, ask for it as an RTF
file; all word processors can create (and open) those.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
The whole point of PDF is to produce transportable documents that

cannot
be
edited. If you need to include the content in a document and the

author
is
willing, then the obvious plan is to get the document in an editable

format.

PDF files can be produced with varying levels of encryption which can

make
them difficult to convert, but there are applications that will

convert
them, and if all else fails you can print the document and scan into

OCR
software. And of course Acrobat will open the files for editing

(provided
you have the password - if applied).

Another approach is to use a screen capture tool like the excellent

SnagIt.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org




Doug Freese wrote:
"macropod" wrote in message
...
Hi Doug,

You can't insert a PDF into Word the way you might insert a

picture,
another
Word file, or Excel spreadsheet, because neither MS nor Adobe make
the necessary filters for this.

You don't think is done on purpose? Insert faciteous smile.

The best you can do is to insert the PDF as a
hyperlinked object that can be clicked on to open by the

recipient -
hardly
very useful for a printed copy.

Hyperlinked files don't survive snail mail.


What that leaves you with is the option of copying & pasting from

the
PDF,
or using a converter such as Solid Converter to convert the PDF

into
a Word-compatible format. Better still, get the author to save the
PDF using
'Save As' and choosing the 'Rich text Format (RTF)' option.

I sent a note to the author to use the save as option but I had no
idea what extension to suggest not having a writer. Thanks for the
lead and your time.

-Doug






  #14  
Old October 10th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Jezebel
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Absurd using Word, indeed. But top-end graphics programs, such as are used
for creating professional magazines, do exactly that. Try submitting an
advertisement to a trade publication: the ones I've used will accept PDF
*only*.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But in that case the finished newsletter would be converted to a PDF. It's
absurd to try to assemble a newsletter from bits and pieces of PDF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup

so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
Unless the author assumed that newsletter is being assembled using

top-end
commercial printing software, for which PDF may well be the *only*
acceptable format.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the author is supplying this file for inclusion in a newsletter,

then
it
is absurd to supply it as a PDF. I can assure you that it was not

originally
created as a PDF. If the author is using Word, ask for the document in

Word
format. If he/she is using another word processor, ask for it as an

RTF
file; all word processors can create (and open) those.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
The whole point of PDF is to produce transportable documents that

cannot
be
edited. If you need to include the content in a document and the

author
is
willing, then the obvious plan is to get the document in an editable
format.

PDF files can be produced with varying levels of encryption which

can
make
them difficult to convert, but there are applications that will

convert
them, and if all else fails you can print the document and scan into

OCR
software. And of course Acrobat will open the files for editing

(provided
you have the password - if applied).

Another approach is to use a screen capture tool like the excellent
SnagIt.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org




Doug Freese wrote:
"macropod" wrote in message
...
Hi Doug,

You can't insert a PDF into Word the way you might insert a

picture,
another
Word file, or Excel spreadsheet, because neither MS nor Adobe

make
the necessary filters for this.

You don't think is done on purpose? Insert faciteous smile.

The best you can do is to insert the PDF as a
hyperlinked object that can be clicked on to open by the

recipient -
hardly
very useful for a printed copy.

Hyperlinked files don't survive snail mail.


What that leaves you with is the option of copying & pasting from

the
PDF,
or using a converter such as Solid Converter to convert the PDF

into
a Word-compatible format. Better still, get the author to save

the
PDF using
'Save As' and choosing the 'Rich text Format (RTF)' option.

I sent a note to the author to use the save as option but I had no
idea what extension to suggest not having a writer. Thanks for the
lead and your time.

-Doug








  #15  
Old October 10th, 2004, 05:14 AM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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I think it is fairly clear that the OP is using Word. He is unable to use
PDFs in constructing his newsletter. It is therefore of no interest to him
what professional magazines may do; he needs material from his contributor
in a format he can use.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
Absurd using Word, indeed. But top-end graphics programs, such as are used
for creating professional magazines, do exactly that. Try submitting an
advertisement to a trade publication: the ones I've used will accept PDF
*only*.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But in that case the finished newsletter would be converted to a PDF.

It's
absurd to try to assemble a newsletter from bits and pieces of PDF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
Unless the author assumed that newsletter is being assembled using

top-end
commercial printing software, for which PDF may well be the *only*
acceptable format.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the author is supplying this file for inclusion in a newsletter,

then
it
is absurd to supply it as a PDF. I can assure you that it was not
originally
created as a PDF. If the author is using Word, ask for the document

in
Word
format. If he/she is using another word processor, ask for it as an

RTF
file; all word processors can create (and open) those.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
The whole point of PDF is to produce transportable documents that

cannot
be
edited. If you need to include the content in a document and the

author
is
willing, then the obvious plan is to get the document in an

editable
format.

PDF files can be produced with varying levels of encryption which

can
make
them difficult to convert, but there are applications that will

convert
them, and if all else fails you can print the document and scan

into
OCR
software. And of course Acrobat will open the files for editing
(provided
you have the password - if applied).

Another approach is to use a screen capture tool like the

excellent
SnagIt.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org




Doug Freese wrote:
"macropod" wrote in message
...
Hi Doug,

You can't insert a PDF into Word the way you might insert a

picture,
another
Word file, or Excel spreadsheet, because neither MS nor Adobe

make
the necessary filters for this.

You don't think is done on purpose? Insert faciteous smile.

The best you can do is to insert the PDF as a
hyperlinked object that can be clicked on to open by the

recipient -
hardly
very useful for a printed copy.

Hyperlinked files don't survive snail mail.


What that leaves you with is the option of copying & pasting

from
the
PDF,
or using a converter such as Solid Converter to convert the PDF

into
a Word-compatible format. Better still, get the author to save

the
PDF using
'Save As' and choosing the 'Rich text Format (RTF)' option.

I sent a note to the author to use the save as option but I had

no
idea what extension to suggest not having a writer. Thanks for

the
lead and your time.

-Doug









  #16  
Old October 10th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Daiya Mitchell
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Oh, advertisements! That makes sense. I was wondering where you were coming
from, b/c I can't see any dept using top-end programs giving over control of
content to the extent of requiring a PDF, but ads makes perfect sense.

Daiya

On 10/9/04 8:24 PM, "Jezebel" wrote:

Absurd using Word, indeed. But top-end graphics programs, such as are used
for creating professional magazines, do exactly that. Try submitting an
advertisement to a trade publication: the ones I've used will accept PDF
*only*.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But in that case the finished newsletter would be converted to a PDF. It's
absurd to try to assemble a newsletter from bits and pieces of PDF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup

so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
Unless the author assumed that newsletter is being assembled using

top-end
commercial printing software, for which PDF may well be the *only*
acceptable format.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the author is supplying this file for inclusion in a newsletter,

then
it
is absurd to supply it as a PDF. I can assure you that it was not
originally
created as a PDF. If the author is using Word, ask for the document in
Word
format. If he/she is using another word processor, ask for it as an

RTF
file; all word processors can create (and open) those.

--


  #17  
Old October 10th, 2004, 04:21 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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And I have found that some technology that creates PDFs creates each page of
a document as a picture. For example, when I asked my brother, an attorney
in Cincinnati, for a copy of a document, instead of faxing it to me (which
would have been quick and simple), he asked if a PDF would be okay. I said
sure, then asked him how he would accomplish this. He said his firm had a
fax machine that he could feed the document into, punch in his email
address, and then find the document in his email as a PDF. Sure enough, when
he sent it to me, each page was a graphic.

In another, more recent example, a client asked if he could send me a
document as a PDF. It was 1.1 MB, so he asked for permission before sending
it, knowing I'm on dial-up, but I agreed (even though it turned into a 1568
KB message) because the expectation was that I would be able to cut and
paste text from this expert report into the review of it that he had
written. Alas, it also was just a graphic scan, and the text was not
selectable, so I ended up retyping anyway.

Sending this type of PDF for an ad would make perfect sense, but I still
maintain that the OP's use of the word "author" suggests that he is
receiving a text contribution to the newsletter. And my guess is he's going
to end up retyping, too (or at least cutting and pasting).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Oh, advertisements! That makes sense. I was wondering where you were

coming
from, b/c I can't see any dept using top-end programs giving over control

of
content to the extent of requiring a PDF, but ads makes perfect sense.

Daiya

On 10/9/04 8:24 PM, "Jezebel" wrote:

Absurd using Word, indeed. But top-end graphics programs, such as are

used
for creating professional magazines, do exactly that. Try submitting an
advertisement to a trade publication: the ones I've used will accept PDF
*only*.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But in that case the finished newsletter would be converted to a PDF.

It's
absurd to try to assemble a newsletter from bits and pieces of PDF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
Unless the author assumed that newsletter is being assembled using

top-end
commercial printing software, for which PDF may well be the *only*
acceptable format.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the author is supplying this file for inclusion in a newsletter,

then
it
is absurd to supply it as a PDF. I can assure you that it was not
originally
created as a PDF. If the author is using Word, ask for the document

in
Word
format. If he/she is using another word processor, ask for it as an

RTF
file; all word processors can create (and open) those.

--



  #18  
Old October 10th, 2004, 11:31 PM
Jezebel
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If you check the websites for these publications, many (perhaps most, by
now) provide downloadable settings files for all those advanced job options
you can set when creating the PDF. They also insist that you NOT use true
type fonts. Which, incidentally, rules out PDFs created using some of the
Acrobat clones.



"Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message
...
Oh, advertisements! That makes sense. I was wondering where you were

coming
from, b/c I can't see any dept using top-end programs giving over control

of
content to the extent of requiring a PDF, but ads makes perfect sense.

Daiya

On 10/9/04 8:24 PM, "Jezebel" wrote:

Absurd using Word, indeed. But top-end graphics programs, such as are

used
for creating professional magazines, do exactly that. Try submitting an
advertisement to a trade publication: the ones I've used will accept PDF
*only*.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But in that case the finished newsletter would be converted to a PDF.

It's
absurd to try to assemble a newsletter from bits and pieces of PDF.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
Unless the author assumed that newsletter is being assembled using

top-end
commercial printing software, for which PDF may well be the *only*
acceptable format.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
If the author is supplying this file for inclusion in a newsletter,

then
it
is absurd to supply it as a PDF. I can assure you that it was not
originally
created as a PDF. If the author is using Word, ask for the document

in
Word
format. If he/she is using another word processor, ask for it as an

RTF
file; all word processors can create (and open) those.

--




  #19  
Old October 17th, 2004, 09:15 PM
HT
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Is there any reason why you can't just "File, SaveAs" as a "doc" file? It
will retain the formatting and all you need to do is a "Insert, File".


"chinnu" wrote in message
...
Hello Doug
Lets try these steps to create a pdf file.
1. Install Generic printer MS Publisher Imagesetter.

Click on Start-Printer and faxes-add printer and in
manufacturer column select Generic and in type of printer
column select MS Publisher Image setter.
And install it.

2. Create a document in word and click in file -print-in
print window check the option print to file and the print
to file window is opened and give the file name in double
quotes as "Name of the file.ps" on the desktop.

3. Open the site ps2pdf.com and in that site we have
convert button.
4. click on convert button and another window is displayed
in that Browse button is present click on browse and
select the file you have created and click on open button.

5. click on convert button, it converts and displays the
pfd document in the browser.
6. To save it on the desktop right click on the file and
click on save target as and save it on the desktop.

Thank you for using
for your disscussions.
byeeeee.



 




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