When will the old menus be returned to Excel and Word?

I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the ribbon
menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided to
reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the legacy menu
configuration.

Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find myself
searching for commands and get completely defocused. The software reminds me
of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would give away
for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to cripple any of
my other computers.

Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near future.

There are some third-party add-ins available that somewhat imitate the
"classic interface".

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"mpm2008" wrote in message
...
I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the
ribbon
menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided to
reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the legacy menu
configuration.

Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find myself
searching for commands and get completely defocused. The software reminds
me
of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would give
away
for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to cripple any
of
my other computers.

Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near future.

For Microsoft to put the menus back to the way they were, they would have to
admit that they were wrong in the first place. Now how likely do you think
that will be?

{þ

Earle

"mpm2008" wrote in message
...
I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the
ribbon
menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided to
reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the legacy menu
configuration.

Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find myself
searching for commands and get completely defocused. The software reminds
me
of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would give
away
for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to cripple any
of
my other computers.

Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near future.

But they weren't wrong... it is just that a certain percentage of customers
don't like the new User Interface and are complaining. The vast majority of
users like the new interface and are not complaining.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Earle Horton asked:

| For Microsoft to put the menus back to the way they were, they would
| have to admit that they were wrong in the first place. Now how
| likely do you think that will be?
|
| {þ
|
| Earle
|
| "mpm2008" wrote in message
| ...
|| I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the
|| ribbon
|| menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided
|| to reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the
|| legacy menu configuration.
||
|| Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find
|| myself searching for commands and get completely defocused. The
|| software reminds me
|| of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would
|| give away
|| for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to
|| cripple any of
|| my other computers.
||
|| Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near
|| future.

You don't have hard figures to support this, now do you? Please include all
complaining statistics, including from letters to Microsoft and letters to
magazines, to complaining to spouse, "This new Office sucks honey, can you
get me the old one?" (Heard around my house...)

Cheers,

Earle

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" what@ever wrote in message
...
But they weren't wrong... it is just that a certain percentage of
customers
don't like the new User Interface and are complaining. The vast majority
of
users like the new interface and are not complaining.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Earle Horton asked:

| For Microsoft to put the menus back to the way they were, they would
| have to admit that they were wrong in the first place. Now how
| likely do you think that will be?
|
| {þ
|
| Earle
|
| "mpm2008" wrote in message
| ...
|| I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the
|| ribbon
|| menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided
|| to reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the
|| legacy menu configuration.
||
|| Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find
|| myself searching for commands and get completely defocused. The
|| software reminds me
|| of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would
|| give away
|| for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to
|| cripple any of
|| my other computers.
||
|| Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near
|| future.

Earle

After stupidity you just posted you be better off to stick to the msn.discussion newsgroup.

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Earle Horton" wrote in message ...
You don't have hard figures to support this, now do you? Please include all
complaining statistics, including from letters to Microsoft and letters to
magazines, to complaining to spouse, "This new Office sucks honey, can you
get me the old one?" (Heard around my house...)

Cheers,

Earle

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" what@ever wrote in message
...
But they weren't wrong... it is just that a certain percentage of
customers
don't like the new User Interface and are complaining. The vast majority
of
users like the new interface and are not complaining.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Earle Horton asked:

| For Microsoft to put the menus back to the way they were, they would
| have to admit that they were wrong in the first place. Now how
| likely do you think that will be?
|
| {þ
|
| Earle
|
| "mpm2008" wrote in message
| ...
|| I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the
|| ribbon
|| menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided
|| to reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the
|| legacy menu configuration.
||
|| Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find
|| myself searching for commands and get completely defocused. The
|| software reminds me
|| of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would
|| give away
|| for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to
|| cripple any of
|| my other computers.
||
|| Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near
|| future.

Or is it the vast majority of customers have no choice (the company
installed it) and they just suck it up and use it?

If the Ribbon is better, why does AutoDesk provide for both tradional menus
or ribbon usage? How many Autocad users choose one over the other?

Is newer/different always/automatically better?

Have you seen the pictures floating around the 'net of the Mercedes
prototype with a joystick-like control between the front seats, instead of a
steering wheel? (http://www.snopes.com/photos/automob...ewmercedes.asp
for an example) While the technical people could make the case it's
"better", how long would it take to succeed in the marketplace where people
conciously choose that style of control?

Val



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" what@ever wrote in message
...
But they weren't wrong... it is just that a certain percentage of customers
don't like the new User Interface and are complaining. The vast majority of
users like the new interface and are not complaining.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Earle Horton asked:

| For Microsoft to put the menus back to the way they were, they would
| have to admit that they were wrong in the first place. Now how
| likely do you think that will be?
|
| {þ
|
| Earle
|
| "mpm2008" wrote in message
| ...
|| I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the
|| ribbon
|| menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided
|| to reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the
|| legacy menu configuration.
||
|| Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find
|| myself searching for commands and get completely defocused. The
|| software reminds me
|| of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would
|| give away
|| for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to
|| cripple any of
|| my other computers.
||
|| Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near
|| future.

mpm, MS has no plans to offer the classic menus as an option, despite many
requests from long time users. As Earle notes, that would be admitting they
were wrong in the first place.

You aren't the first one to ask about reverting to the classic UI and you
certainly won't be the last.

Like you, I didn't see any value in learning the Ribbon rubbish after using
the trial version for a few weeks. For me, it was a productivity killer.
Another added headache was Excel kept crashing randomly. Hence I decided not
to shell out the $$$s MS wanted for Office 2007 and reverted to Office 2003.
Voila! Productivity back to normal and no more crashes.

The only way to get the classic menus is to install third party add-ins.
Some are free and you'll have to pony up more $$$s for some. That's been
posted here many, many times.

You may want to let MS know how you feel about the Ribbon. There's a link to
send them feedback from the MS site (the Office section).

hth!

-- Gemini

"mpm2008" wrote:

I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the ribbon
menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided to
reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the legacy menu
configuration.

Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find myself
searching for commands and get completely defocused. The software reminds me
of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would give away
for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to cripple any of
my other computers.

Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near future.

"Vast majority"? I'll bet Milly will not be able to post solid, verifiable
data to back up her claim. That's merely her opinion and she's trying to pass
it off as fact.

Several posters have asked Jensen Harris for the same data (see JH's blog).
So far, JH has maintained a solid silence to those queries.

-- Gemini

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

But they weren't wrong... it is just that a certain percentage of customers
don't like the new User Interface and are complaining. The vast majority of
users like the new interface and are not complaining.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Val, you are correct. I personally know several people who use Office 2007
simply because their employer "upgraded" to it. They're captive users.
However, they do form part of the Ribbon's "success" statistics.

Take a look at the Ribbon survey on www.exceluser.com. I've also read posts
where the posters stated their co. decided to remove the Office 2007
"upgrade" after numerous complaints from employees.

So far, there's absolutely no hard data which proves the Ribbon's success.
That's one of the two common characteristics displayed by some Office 2007
fans. The other characteristics is deriding, attacking, etc. anyone who dares
question the "success" of the Ribbon. There are plenty of posts on this forum
to prove that.

-- Gemini


"Val" wrote:

Or is it the vast majority of customers have no choice (the company
installed it) and they just suck it up and use it?

If the Ribbon is better, why does AutoDesk provide for both tradional menus
or ribbon usage? How many Autocad users choose one over the other?

Is newer/different always/automatically better?

Have you seen the pictures floating around the 'net of the Mercedes
prototype with a joystick-like control between the front seats, instead of a
steering wheel? (http://www.snopes.com/photos/automob...ewmercedes.asp
for an example) While the technical people could make the case it's
"better", how long would it take to succeed in the marketplace where people
conciously choose that style of control?

Val



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" what@ever wrote in message
...
But they weren't wrong... it is just that a certain percentage of customers
don't like the new User Interface and are complaining. The vast majority of
users like the new interface and are not complaining.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Earle Horton asked:

| For Microsoft to put the menus back to the way they were, they would
| have to admit that they were wrong in the first place. Now how
| likely do you think that will be?
|
| {þ
|
| Earle
|
| "mpm2008" wrote in message
| ...
|| I bought Office 2007 to stay current with the latest software but the
|| ribbon
|| menu just isn't working out. I don't understand why it was decided
|| to reinvent the user interface and not provide an option for the
|| legacy menu configuration.
||
|| Every time I attempt to use the software, within 5 minutes I find
|| myself searching for commands and get completely defocused. The
|| software reminds me
|| of a hijacked version of Office 2003 that a no name company would
|| give away
|| for free. I bought the 3 license version but can't afford to
|| cripple any of
|| my other computers.
||
|| Hopefully, an option for the old menus will be added in the near
|| future.