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Old September 8th, 2005, 09:00 PM
Kerry Brown
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Default Default file format

Is there any way to change the default file format in Publisher 2003? I have
a mixed environment with some users on 2000 and some on 2003. If someone
using 2003 edits a file and forgets to save as 2000 the 2000 users can't use
the file until someone changes it back. I'd like to change the 2003 users to
always save in the 2000 file format. My apologies if this is a common
question. I've searched google and this group but can't find it.

Thanks, Kerry


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Old September 8th, 2005, 09:54 PM
Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]
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This is a question that has been asked before, but not numerous times. And
the answer, I am afraid to say, is no each time.

Whether or not there is a way to do it via the object model using
Publisher's VBA is over my head. But if you know programming, you could
start there.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

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"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
Is there any way to change the default file format in Publisher 2003? I
have a mixed environment with some users on 2000 and some on 2003. If
someone using 2003 edits a file and forgets to save as 2000 the 2000 users
can't use the file until someone changes it back. I'd like to change the
2003 users to always save in the 2000 file format. My apologies if this is
a common question. I've searched google and this group but can't find it.

Thanks, Kerry




  #3  
Old September 8th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Kerry Brown
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Default Default file format

"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
This is a question that has been asked before, but not numerous times. And
the answer, I am afraid to say, is no each time.

Whether or not there is a way to do it via the object model using
Publisher's VBA is over my head. But if you know programming, you could
start there.


I suspected it couldn't be done. I administer the network under contract so
I doubt they'll want to spend the money for me to investigate the
programming method. Too open ended. They like to know costs in advance. I'll
have to tell them to train the users. Maybe setup one person responsible for
converting files when needed. That person will eventually get so sick of it
they'll use peer pressure to train the rest :-)

Thanks, Kerry


  #4  
Old September 8th, 2005, 10:23 PM
Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]
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The correct thing to do, without sounding like MS puppet, is to upgrade them
all to Pub 2003. Or do what you are doing now and upgrade EVERYONE to the
next version of Pub, which comes out next year. At least you will get 3
years of use out of that.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
This is a question that has been asked before, but not numerous times.
And the answer, I am afraid to say, is no each time.

Whether or not there is a way to do it via the object model using
Publisher's VBA is over my head. But if you know programming, you could
start there.


I suspected it couldn't be done. I administer the network under contract
so I doubt they'll want to spend the money for me to investigate the
programming method. Too open ended. They like to know costs in advance.
I'll have to tell them to train the users. Maybe setup one person
responsible for converting files when needed. That person will eventually
get so sick of it they'll use peer pressure to train the rest :-)

Thanks, Kerry




  #5  
Old September 8th, 2005, 11:03 PM
Ed Bennett
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Default Default file format

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP] was very recently
heard to utter:
The correct thing to do, without sounding like MS puppet, is to
upgrade them all to Pub 2003. Or do what you are doing now and
upgrade EVERYONE to the next version of Pub, which comes out next
year. At least you will get 3 years of use out of that.


I would agree that shuffling files between versions is a very bad idea.

It means that if one person makes minor modifications to a file in Publisher
2003, they may have been reverted due when the file is saved due to the
formatting loss in both directions.

Stick everyone on Publisher 2000, or everyone on Publisher 2002/3 (Publisher
2002 can open Publisher 2003 files with no formatting loss). Or wait and
upgrade everyone to Publisher 12 when it is released.

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher


  #6  
Old September 9th, 2005, 06:22 AM
Terje Martinsen
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Default Default file format

Any rumours about the new features in next version of publisher?

Regards Terje

"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" skrev i melding
...
The correct thing to do, without sounding like MS puppet, is to upgrade
them all to Pub 2003. Or do what you are doing now and upgrade EVERYONE to
the next version of Pub, which comes out next year. At least you will get
3 years of use out of that.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
This is a question that has been asked before, but not numerous times.
And the answer, I am afraid to say, is no each time.

Whether or not there is a way to do it via the object model using
Publisher's VBA is over my head. But if you know programming, you could
start there.


I suspected it couldn't be done. I administer the network under contract
so I doubt they'll want to spend the money for me to investigate the
programming method. Too open ended. They like to know costs in advance.
I'll have to tell them to train the users. Maybe setup one person
responsible for converting files when needed. That person will eventually
get so sick of it they'll use peer pressure to train the rest :-)

Thanks, Kerry






  #7  
Old September 9th, 2005, 06:27 AM
Kerry Brown
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Default Default file format

"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
The correct thing to do, without sounding like MS puppet, is to upgrade
them all to Pub 2003. Or do what you are doing now and upgrade EVERYONE to
the next version of Pub, which comes out next year. At least you will get
3 years of use out of that.


It's tough to convince a non-profit society that relies on government and
privet grants that they should upgrade perfectly good software that does
exactly what they want because Microsoft decided to change the file format.
They mostly do posters and one page handouts. They don't use any fancy
formatting that won't survive the conversions. They have a volume license
for Office 2000 but it's cheaper to buy an OEM Office 2003 with any new
computers rather than new licenses. They are trying to stay compliant with
licensing but Microsoft doesn't make it easy.

Kerry


  #8  
Old September 9th, 2005, 03:50 PM
Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]
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Default Default file format

Understood :-)

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

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"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
The correct thing to do, without sounding like MS puppet, is to upgrade
them all to Pub 2003. Or do what you are doing now and upgrade EVERYONE
to the next version of Pub, which comes out next year. At least you will
get 3 years of use out of that.


It's tough to convince a non-profit society that relies on government and
privet grants that they should upgrade perfectly good software that does
exactly what they want because Microsoft decided to change the file
format. They mostly do posters and one page handouts. They don't use any
fancy formatting that won't survive the conversions. They have a volume
license for Office 2000 but it's cheaper to buy an OEM Office 2003 with
any new computers rather than new licenses. They are trying to stay
compliant with licensing but Microsoft doesn't make it easy.

Kerry




  #9  
Old September 9th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]
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Default Default file format

Hi Terje,

Due to NDA, I am unable to reveal new features at this time. However, next
week is the PDC convention and Microsoft plans to reveal some new Office 12
features. In addition, the Publisher team is also supposed to be showing off
some of Publisher 12's new features.

What I "will" say is, the Publisher team is concentrating on the following
for Publisher 12:

1. Commercial printing enhancements...which at this time looks VERY
impressive.
2. New features that will make Publisher more user friendly for new users.

And finally, the MVP's put together a LAUNDRY LIST of wishes and fixes
DIRECTLY FROM THIS NEWSGROUP from users such as yourself and presented that
list to the Publisher team. We have had meetings with the team and have gone
over this list and I would like to say that they ARE listening to us and WE
WILL see many of those wishes/fixes addressed in this version. Some of the
wishes were pushed back to version of Pub that follows Pub 12 due to time
constraints, budget, etc.

I know it's not all that great of information, but it's the best I can offer
you.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

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confers no rights.
"Terje Martinsen" wrote in message
...
Any rumours about the new features in next version of publisher?

Regards Terje

"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" skrev i melding
...
The correct thing to do, without sounding like MS puppet, is to upgrade
them all to Pub 2003. Or do what you are doing now and upgrade EVERYONE
to the next version of Pub, which comes out next year. At least you will
get 3 years of use out of that.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
This is a question that has been asked before, but not numerous times.
And the answer, I am afraid to say, is no each time.

Whether or not there is a way to do it via the object model using
Publisher's VBA is over my head. But if you know programming, you could
start there.


I suspected it couldn't be done. I administer the network under contract
so I doubt they'll want to spend the money for me to investigate the
programming method. Too open ended. They like to know costs in advance.
I'll have to tell them to train the users. Maybe setup one person
responsible for converting files when needed. That person will
eventually get so sick of it they'll use peer pressure to train the rest
:-)

Thanks, Kerry








  #10  
Old September 9th, 2005, 09:29 PM
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
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Default Default file format

You could look into pricing for NPOs. I belong to an NPO myself. I use my
own computer and programs with the exception of Acrobat. The organization
owns that one. We run into very few problems with differences in versions.
And usually I am the one that has to teach the others how to do things like
"Save As...". Oh well, each group needs its geeks. :-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
The correct thing to do, without sounding like MS puppet, is to upgrade
them all to Pub 2003. Or do what you are doing now and upgrade EVERYONE
to the next version of Pub, which comes out next year. At least you will
get 3 years of use out of that.


It's tough to convince a non-profit society that relies on government and
privet grants that they should upgrade perfectly good software that does
exactly what they want because Microsoft decided to change the file
format. They mostly do posters and one page handouts. They don't use any
fancy formatting that won't survive the conversions. They have a volume
license for Office 2000 but it's cheaper to buy an OEM Office 2003 with
any new computers rather than new licenses. They are trying to stay
compliant with licensing but Microsoft doesn't make it easy.

Kerry




 




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