Setting up a header with chapter numbers and page numbers

From the mvps.org Website, I've got directions on getting chapter and page
numbers into a header, but I'm required to use a different format than I
get with their directions.

I'm required to have the following format
Name/Document Title/Ch#nn xx

From mvps.org, I end up with something like
Name/Document Title/ 1-1
which I must say is not helpful to me on which is which until you flip
through a couple of pages.

On an entirely different issue (sorry), I am told that having 1 inch
margins all around with Courier 12-pt, double-spaced will give me 26 lines
per page, also required. I'm getting 24. I've measured the top and bottom
margins on the print out, and they are indeed one inch.

I assume I can play with the spacing between lines, but first I'd like to
confirm that the directions are correct: 1-inch top and bottom margins with
12-point Courier, double- spaced _should_ give 26 lines per page?
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I should have mentioned I'm using Word 2000 and Win2kPro, I guess.
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1" margins top and bottom give you 9" between margins. If you use standard
typewriter double spacing of 3 lpi (Exactly 24 pt), you'll get 27 lines.
Double spacing is giving you line spacing of approximately 27 pts. Line
spacing of 24.5 pts will give you 26 lines per page.

I'm not sure I understand your first question. Looks like you've got an
extra tab in your header or something. What exactly is it that you're
getting that you don't want?

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Words into Type
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"Phil Stripling" wrote in message
...
From the mvps.org Website, I've got directions on getting chapter and page
numbers into a header, but I'm required to use a different format than I
get with their directions.

I'm required to have the following format
Name/Document Title/Ch#nn xx

From mvps.org, I end up with something like
Name/Document Title/ 1-1
which I must say is not helpful to me on which is which until you flip
through a couple of pages.

On an entirely different issue (sorry), I am told that having 1 inch
margins all around with Courier 12-pt, double-spaced will give me 26 lines
per page, also required. I'm getting 24. I've measured the top and bottom
margins on the print out, and they are indeed one inch.

I assume I can play with the spacing between lines, but first I'd like to
confirm that the directions are correct: 1-inch top and bottom margins
with
12-point Courier, double- spaced _should_ give 26 lines per page?
--
Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" writes:

I'm not sure I understand your first question. Looks like you've got an
extra tab in your header or something. What exactly is it that you're
getting that you don't want?

I'm getting this:
Name/Document Title/1-1
or
Name/Doc Title/ 1-1
I don't care which it is. It's not what I'm required to produce.

What I need is
Name/Doc Title/Ch# Pg#
where Ch# is the current chapter number and Pg# is the page number. The
name/doc title/Ch#
part must be on the left margin, and the
Pg#
part must be on the right margin.

This header must be at the top of every page but the first, showing the
correct chapter number and the correct page number. I'm using Word 2000 on
a Win2kPro computer. I appreciate any help I can get. I have no direct
contact with the people setting this requirement -- my email query last
week has not been answered. Hence, HELLLLLLP! :-

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Okay, so you can't use the "Include chapter number" feature. Instead, just
use Insert Page Number to put it where you want it, and use a StyleRef field
to pick up the paragraph number of the numbered style that contains your
chapter number.

To omit the header on the first page of each section, check the box for
"Different first page" on the Layout tab of Page Setup and leave the First
Page Header blank. You'll need a section break at the beginning of each
chapter, but the StyleRef field will pick up your chapter number without any
change in the header, so you can leave "Same as Previous" enabled.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Phil Stripling" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" writes:

I'm not sure I understand your first question. Looks like you've got an
extra tab in your header or something. What exactly is it that you're
getting that you don't want?

I'm getting this:
Name/Document Title/1-1
or
Name/Doc Title/ 1-1
I don't care which it is. It's not what I'm required to produce.

What I need is
Name/Doc Title/Ch# Pg#
where Ch# is the current chapter number and Pg# is the page number. The
name/doc title/Ch#
part must be on the left margin, and the
Pg#
part must be on the right margin.

This header must be at the top of every page but the first, showing the
correct chapter number and the correct page number. I'm using Word 2000 on
a Win2kPro computer. I appreciate any help I can get. I have no direct
contact with the people setting this requirement -- my email query last
week has not been answered. Hence, HELLLLLLP! :-

--
Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" writes:

Okay, so you can't use the "Include chapter number" feature. Instead, just
use Insert Page Number to put it where you want it, and use a StyleRef field
to pick up the paragraph number of the numbered style that contains your
chapter number.

I've looked at the FAQ and did a search on StyleRef, but I'm sorry to say
the materials seem to assume I already know what StyleRef is (as you seem
to assume). Is there a resource which tells me what StyleRef is from the
beginning and how to use such a field?
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Have you tried Word's Help file? Search for StyleRef and pick the topic
"Field codes: StyleRef field."

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Phil Stripling" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" writes:

Okay, so you can't use the "Include chapter number" feature. Instead,
just
use Insert Page Number to put it where you want it, and use a StyleRef
field
to pick up the paragraph number of the numbered style that contains your
chapter number.

I've looked at the FAQ and did a search on StyleRef, but I'm sorry to say
the materials seem to assume I already know what StyleRef is (as you seem
to assume). Is there a resource which tells me what StyleRef is from the
beginning and how to use such a field?
--
Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed
Legal Assistance on the Web | spam and read later. email to philip@
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" writes:

Have you tried Word's Help file? Search for StyleRef and pick the topic
"Field codes: StyleRef field."

Oddly enough, that's the first thing I did after reading your earlier
post. "Inserts text that's formatted with the specified style."

I am sorry to say that it provides no help to me at all. That's why I asked
for references to more general information. I need to learn what a styleref
is, why I should use it, when I should use it, how it is used. The
so-called help file tells me the details of what curly-brace to use and
what switches. I still have no clue what the big picture is on a StyleRef
and how to implement one so that I get the desired result.

I have a suspicion that you are attempting to Do the Right Thing, leading
me to do the queries that will let me answer the questions myself. The
"give a man a fish, feed him once, teach him to fish, he feeds himself
forever" thing, right? Unfortunately, you are failing to teach me to fish,
and I have not got the meal I need today to sustain me.

My question remains unanswered:
How do I set up a header so that it gives
My Name/Document Title/Chapter number Page number


Any help on this question would be greatly appreciated. I'll be happy to
read up on StyleRefs, as that seems to be the key, but I still have no clue
what they are, when they should be used, why, and how. Those questions are
different issues, however, than my question. Or maybe this is the wrong
newsgroup for new users to ask basic questions on Word. Any recommendations
on where to get answers on basic problems that new users have?
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Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed
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In fact, I believe Suzanne has already written what you are asking for in
order to eat today...

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm

Scroll down to the Beyond Numbering section, though considering your second
post, the entire article is full of great information for beginning users,
and you may find it useful.

Also see Shauna Kelly's site at www.shaunakelly.com, aimed at helping new
users.

DM

On 8/14/04 2:14 PM, "Phil Stripling" wrote:

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" writes:

Have you tried Word's Help file? Search for StyleRef and pick the topic
"Field codes: StyleRef field."

Oddly enough, that's the first thing I did after reading your earlier
post. "Inserts text that's formatted with the specified style."

I am sorry to say that it provides no help to me at all. That's why I asked
for references to more general information. I need to learn what a styleref
is, why I should use it, when I should use it, how it is used. The
so-called help file tells me the details of what curly-brace to use and
what switches. I still have no clue what the big picture is on a StyleRef
and how to implement one so that I get the desired result.

I have a suspicion that you are attempting to Do the Right Thing, leading
me to do the queries that will let me answer the questions myself. The
"give a man a fish, feed him once, teach him to fish, he feeds himself
forever" thing, right? Unfortunately, you are failing to teach me to fish,
and I have not got the meal I need today to sustain me.

My question remains unanswered:
How do I set up a header so that it gives
My Name/Document Title/Chapter number Page number


Any help on this question would be greatly appreciated. I'll be happy to
read up on StyleRefs, as that seems to be the key, but I still have no clue
what they are, when they should be used, why, and how. Those questions are
different issues, however, than my question. Or maybe this is the wrong
newsgroup for new users to ask basic questions on Word. Any recommendations
on where to get answers on basic problems that new users have?

Insert the following fields into the header:

UserName will display the name of the user that is entered under
ToolsOptionsUser Information
Title will display the title assigned to the document under
FileProperties
Section will display the number of the Section which if you have one
Section to a Chapter will correspond to the Chapter Number
Page will display the number of the page.

If you want the filename of the document instead of the Title, then insert
the field of that name.

Take the time to look through the relevant information on the website to
which I directed you in your other post.

The Styleref field is most often used for automatically inserting dictionary
type information in the header of the document.

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interested. Questions sent directly to me will only be answered on a paid
consulting basis.

Hope this helps,
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Phil Stripling" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" writes:

Have you tried Word's Help file? Search for StyleRef and pick the topic
"Field codes: StyleRef field."

Oddly enough, that's the first thing I did after reading your earlier
post. "Inserts text that's formatted with the specified style."

I am sorry to say that it provides no help to me at all. That's why I
asked
for references to more general information. I need to learn what a
styleref
is, why I should use it, when I should use it, how it is used. The
so-called help file tells me the details of what curly-brace to use and
what switches. I still have no clue what the big picture is on a StyleRef
and how to implement one so that I get the desired result.

I have a suspicion that you are attempting to Do the Right Thing, leading
me to do the queries that will let me answer the questions myself. The
"give a man a fish, feed him once, teach him to fish, he feeds himself
forever" thing, right? Unfortunately, you are failing to teach me to fish,
and I have not got the meal I need today to sustain me.

My question remains unanswered:
How do I set up a header so that it gives
My Name/Document Title/Chapter number Page number


Any help on this question would be greatly appreciated. I'll be happy to
read up on StyleRefs, as that seems to be the key, but I still have no
clue
what they are, when they should be used, why, and how. Those questions are
different issues, however, than my question. Or maybe this is the wrong
newsgroup for new users to ask basic questions on Word. Any
recommendations
on where to get answers on basic problems that new users have?
--
Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed
Legal Assistance on the Web | spam and read later. email to philip@
http://www.PhilipStripling.com/ | my domain is read daily.