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Old September 24th, 2004, 06:01 PM
Gary
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Thank you, Mark. Turning off the preview certainly helps with the size of the
Visio file, but doesn't help me when I output to PDF. Maybe mine is a problem
with Distiller.

I have 15 shapes and some text in a graphic. When all the shapes have a
solid black shadow and preview is on, the Visio file size is 2,179KB. With
the preview off, the Visio file size is only 361KB. In both cases, when I
output to PDF, I get a 121KB file.

When I change 10 of the shapes to a black shadow with 80% transparency, the
Visio file is 2,196KB with preview on and 361KB with preview off. In both of
these cases, when I output to PDF, I get a 1,304KB file. This is over 10
times bigger than with solid black shadows and much larger than what I would
expect for PDF.

If I use a solid gray color for the shadow, I get a much smaller PDF file
(122KB), but not the desired transparency effect.

Is this strictly a Distiller issue, or is there some sort of work-around in
Visio?

Gary

"Mark Nelson [MS]" wrote:

You should turn of the preview picture (File Properties) to see if that
solves your file size issue. If it does, it is likely the problem mentioned
below. I do not have any news about when a fix will be available
unfortunately.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Gary" wrote in message
...
I also am having trouble with inflated file sizes running Visio 2002 SP-2.
I
have noticed when I add a shaded shadow to a number of shapes, rather than
solid black, the Visio file triples in size. Plus, when I print to Acrobat
Distiller, the resultant PDF file is 10 times larger than with solid black
shadows.

Will the proposed fix address this, as well?

Gary

"Mark Nelson [MS]" wrote:

Microsoft is working on a fix but has not set a release date yet.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"scot" wrote in message
...
I have read this entire thread and have encountered the exact same
problem
with one exception: I disabled the Preview(File/Properties...) and
resaved
the document in sp1, then opened the document in sp2 and the file size
increased only 15k (as opposed to increasing approx 400%!!!!! with the
preview enabled ). These large files caused a big problem when trying to
open, copy or print these files, especially over a network, and even
before
they are bloated after resaving them. I have noticed that the file opens
much quicker with sp1. When openining with sp2 it not only opens the
files
but also bloats it by 400%, which causes it to load much slower.
Continuous
lockups of Visio and Windows explorer, until I was able to determine the
problem, and some time consuming work arounds and fixes now. I noticed
that
on a computer with sp2, when clicking on a large Visio file 5 meg or more
(on a server) that was created with sp1 and has the preview enabled
(first
page) Explorer locks up, seems to be having problems with the preview. I
have to use a non-Microsoft program to copy the files to my local drive
to
open them. This is a real problem. What is Microsoft's
solution?????????????

"Trev" wrote:

I have also encountered this bug with SP2 and Visio 2002. My 1.7MB
Template file when opened and immediately save-as'd into a new file
becomes
7.5MB. When I take the bloated file, open in Visio 2003 and save-as back
to
Visio 2002, it returns to 1.7MB in size. I have not tried it with an SP1
Visio 2002 but the only change I've done recently on the copy of Visio or
my
files is to run Office Update.

Regards,

Trev






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Old September 25th, 2004, 07:23 AM
Mark Nelson [MS]
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I'm not familiar with the Adobe product. It sounds like the typical size
increase when you try to describe the image as a raster image rather than a
vector image.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Gary" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Mark. Turning off the preview certainly helps with the size of
the
Visio file, but doesn't help me when I output to PDF. Maybe mine is a
problem
with Distiller.

I have 15 shapes and some text in a graphic. When all the shapes have a
solid black shadow and preview is on, the Visio file size is 2,179KB. With
the preview off, the Visio file size is only 361KB. In both cases, when I
output to PDF, I get a 121KB file.

When I change 10 of the shapes to a black shadow with 80% transparency,
the
Visio file is 2,196KB with preview on and 361KB with preview off. In both
of
these cases, when I output to PDF, I get a 1,304KB file. This is over 10
times bigger than with solid black shadows and much larger than what I
would
expect for PDF.

If I use a solid gray color for the shadow, I get a much smaller PDF file
(122KB), but not the desired transparency effect.

Is this strictly a Distiller issue, or is there some sort of work-around
in
Visio?

Gary

"Mark Nelson [MS]" wrote:

You should turn of the preview picture (File Properties) to see if that
solves your file size issue. If it does, it is likely the problem
mentioned
below. I do not have any news about when a fix will be available
unfortunately.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Gary" wrote in message
...
I also am having trouble with inflated file sizes running Visio 2002
SP-2.
I
have noticed when I add a shaded shadow to a number of shapes, rather
than
solid black, the Visio file triples in size. Plus, when I print to
Acrobat
Distiller, the resultant PDF file is 10 times larger than with solid
black
shadows.

Will the proposed fix address this, as well?

Gary

"Mark Nelson [MS]" wrote:

Microsoft is working on a fix but has not set a release date yet.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"scot" wrote in message
...
I have read this entire thread and have encountered the exact same
problem
with one exception: I disabled the Preview(File/Properties...) and
resaved
the document in sp1, then opened the document in sp2 and the file size
increased only 15k (as opposed to increasing approx 400%!!!!! with the
preview enabled ). These large files caused a big problem when trying
to
open, copy or print these files, especially over a network, and even
before
they are bloated after resaving them. I have noticed that the file
opens
much quicker with sp1. When openining with sp2 it not only opens the
files
but also bloats it by 400%, which causes it to load much slower.
Continuous
lockups of Visio and Windows explorer, until I was able to determine
the
problem, and some time consuming work arounds and fixes now. I noticed
that
on a computer with sp2, when clicking on a large Visio file 5 meg or
more
(on a server) that was created with sp1 and has the preview enabled
(first
page) Explorer locks up, seems to be having problems with the preview.
I
have to use a non-Microsoft program to copy the files to my local
drive
to
open them. This is a real problem. What is Microsoft's
solution?????????????

"Trev" wrote:

I have also encountered this bug with SP2 and Visio 2002. My
1.7MB
Template file when opened and immediately save-as'd into a new file
becomes
7.5MB. When I take the bloated file, open in Visio 2003 and save-as
back
to
Visio 2002, it returns to 1.7MB in size. I have not tried it with an
SP1
Visio 2002 but the only change I've done recently on the copy of Visio
or
my
files is to run Office Update.

Regards,

Trev








 




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