why do we use print preview modes?

W2007. And I don't recall seeing them before today either. But I just
tried it in W2003 (different computer), and, after I added the standard
toolbar and clicked the pilcrow, there they are.

Pam

Stefan Blom wrote:
Which version of Word are you using? Using Windows versions only (Word 97,
2000, 2003, and now 2007), I have certainly never seen nonprinting marks in
Print Preview. (Well, one exception might be the shading applied to form
fields.)

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
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i can't find the answer here.

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If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout View. Just
because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does not toggle them on
for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately for each view.

Terry Farrell

"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
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They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.


JoAnn Paules wrote:
If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]

i can't find the answer here.

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Ah - I don't edit in Print Preview. I preview in Print Preview.

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Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout View.
Just because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does not toggle
them on for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately for each view.

Terry Farrell

"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
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They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.


JoAnn Paules wrote:
If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]

i can't find the answer here.

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I expect that is true for 99.9999999999999% of users. But you can edit
whilst using Print Preview, so you can toggle on the non-printing
characters. All a bit alien to the way I work though!

Terry

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
Ah - I don't edit in Print Preview. I preview in Print Preview.

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MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout View.
Just because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does not toggle
them on for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately for each view.

Terry Farrell

"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
news:99521a93613ef@uwe...
They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.


JoAnn Paules wrote:
If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]

i can't find the answer here.

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OK, this is possible if you are editing the document in Print Preview, as
explained by Terry Farrell elsewhere in this thread.

But are you saying that you get the nonprinting marks automatically--that
all you have to do is switch to Print Preview to see them? I have to switch
to Print Preview, click to turn off the "Magnifier" option (Word 2007) and
then turn on nonprinting marks. The setting isn't saved with the document.

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Microsoft Word MVP



"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
news:9952485d31ce6@uwe...
W2007. And I don't recall seeing them before today either. But I just
tried it in W2003 (different computer), and, after I added the standard
toolbar and clicked the pilcrow, there they are.

Pam

Stefan Blom wrote:
Which version of Word are you using? Using Windows versions only (Word 97,
2000, 2003, and now 2007), I have certainly never seen nonprinting marks
in
Print Preview. (Well, one exception might be the shading applied to form
fields.)

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]

i can't find the answer here.

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It came as a surprise to me too that you could display the non-printing
characters in print preview, but without being able to print them, there
doesn't seem a lot of point - except maybe for tracing some anomaly between
print layout and print preview.

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My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Terry Farrell wrote:
I expect that is true for 99.9999999999999% of users. But you can edit
whilst using Print Preview, so you can toggle on the non-printing
characters. All a bit alien to the way I work though!

Terry

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
Ah - I don't edit in Print Preview. I preview in Print Preview.

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MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout
View. Just because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does
not toggle them on for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately
for each view. Terry Farrell

"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
news:99521a93613ef@uwe...
They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.


JoAnn Paules wrote:
If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces,
greyed fields,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]

i can't find the answer here.

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I think it enables both 'searching for that odd strange anomaly' and to
avoid deleting a hidden tab or paragraph mark if you are editing in that
mode.

Terry

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
It came as a surprise to me too that you could display the non-printing
characters in print preview, but without being able to print them, there
doesn't seem a lot of point - except maybe for tracing some anomaly
between print layout and print preview.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Terry Farrell wrote:
I expect that is true for 99.9999999999999% of users. But you can edit
whilst using Print Preview, so you can toggle on the non-printing
characters. All a bit alien to the way I work though!

Terry

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
Ah - I don't edit in Print Preview. I preview in Print Preview.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout
View. Just because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does
not toggle them on for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately
for each view. Terry Farrell

"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
news:99521a93613ef@uwe...
They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.


JoAnn Paules wrote:
If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces,
greyed fields,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]

i can't find the answer here.

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On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:54:50 -0400, "JoAnn Paules"
wrote:


Maybe it's because no one else needed to ask that question. Do your own
homework.


The MVPs are in rare venom today. Three snarly replies to a simple
question. Did you all attend the same Charm School?

Remind me again what MVP stands for?

Most Vicious Person?

Multiple Vitriolic Personalities?

Especially if you also display text boundaries.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
If you display nonprinting marks the difference between Print Layout view
and Print Preview will be apparent.

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Microsoft Word MVP



"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
news:994f2ae802c68@uwe...
Actually, that's a very good question. Print layout view in Word pretty
accurately shows me how a page will appear once printed, so about the
only
time I use print preview in Word is to update fields. Before W2007, I
used
normal view (& back) for that purpose. In Excel 2003 and before I used
print
preview often, but now with Excel 2007's page layout view, I, again,
rarely
use print preview. I've wondered why print preview is still a feature
(since
at least W2002). Either it remains because too many users would squawk
if
it were removed, or it does something the other views (including the
reading
view) can't. Does anyone know?

Pam


Terry Farrell wrote:
Clue: the answer is in the name.

i can't find the answer here.

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But note, as other messages in the thread show, that nonprinting marks can
be displayed in Print Preview as well, if you first enable the editing mode.
That was certainly news to me.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Especially if you also display text boundaries.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
If you display nonprinting marks the difference between Print Layout view
and Print Preview will be apparent.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
news:994f2ae802c68@uwe...
Actually, that's a very good question. Print layout view in Word pretty
accurately shows me how a page will appear once printed, so about the
only
time I use print preview in Word is to update fields. Before W2007, I
used
normal view (& back) for that purpose. In Excel 2003 and before I used
print
preview often, but now with Excel 2007's page layout view, I, again,
rarely
use print preview. I've wondered why print preview is still a feature
(since
at least W2002). Either it remains because too many users would squawk
if
it were removed, or it does something the other views (including the
reading
view) can't. Does anyone know?

Pam


Terry Farrell wrote:
Clue: the answer is in the name.

i can't find the answer here.

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