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  #1  
Old December 9th, 2008, 08:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
MaryL
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Posts: 75
Default Problems with borders

I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas trees) for
one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the section has the
border. I do not see an option for just "this page." I only get options
for whole document," "this section," "this section - first page only," and
"this section - all except first page." How do I select a single specified
page for a border (such as, on page 3 out of a 4 page document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it (that is,
remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL

  #2  
Old December 9th, 2008, 11:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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Posts: 3,004
Default Problems with borders

You need to use Sections to control where the borders are located. If you
only want the border on the front page, you need to insert a section break,
next page at the end of the first page. Now when you go to Format Borders,
Page Borders, you will see that you can select which section you want the
border: obviously if it is only for the front page, then choose the first
section.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas trees)
for one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the section has
the border. I do not see an option for just "this page." I only get
options for whole document," "this section," "this section - first page
only," and "this section - all except first page." How do I select a
single specified page for a border (such as, on page 3 out of a 4 page
document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it (that
is, remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL


  #3  
Old December 10th, 2008, 01:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
MaryL
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Posts: 75
Default Problems with borders

It's not working. There seems to be something embedded in the document I am
using, or I am inadventently creating a problem. If I select "this
section," the borders always seem to appear either above or below where I
want them. If I select "section," it jumps to another section in the
document -- there is no selection for specific sections other than "this"
section.

The particular document I am working on is awkward because another member
e-mailed a page as she wanted it inserted in the newsletter. I can copy and
paste the document but not the border. The page she sent contains several
fonts, clip art, and text created with WordArt. I was not able to simply
use "insert" because it does not seem to fit any of the selections I can
make. If I choose "picture" for this particular file (which it is not, of
course), I get an error message. So, I would like to just copy and paste
the content of the document and then replace her border, but then I'm back
to my original problem. I can't get the border to attach to the correct
page. Ironically, I can "select all" and copy the entire page (including
border) into a new document, but the border disappears when I try to paste
it into this newsletter.

Incidentally, where should the cursor be positioned? I can position it to
the right of the dotted lines that show section break, or I can position it
above or below. However, I have not been able to position it to the far
right of the section break.

Thanks for any help. I am having a very hard time with this.

MaryL


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
You need to use Sections to control where the borders are located. If you
only want the border on the front page, you need to insert a section
break, next page at the end of the first page. Now when you go to Format
Borders, Page Borders, you will see that you can select which section you
want the border: obviously if it is only for the front page, then choose
the first section.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas trees)
for one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the section
has the border. I do not see an option for just "this page." I only get
options for whole document," "this section," "this section - first page
only," and "this section - all except first page." How do I select a
single specified page for a border (such as, on page 3 out of a 4 page
document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it (that
is, remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL



  #4  
Old December 10th, 2008, 10:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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Posts: 3,004
Default Problems with borders

I am unable to help much with this. I don't which version of Word you are
using, which version was used to create the page you are trying to add or
how that user created the border you want to include.

Usually, if you place the cursor in your document and then use Insert, File
to add the other single page document, it should insert in total. How are
you inserting it? I suggest at the very top of your document, you insert a
Section Break, Next page which will leave you a blank front page. With the
cursor still on the front page, use Insert File and select the user's file.
Does that not bring in the whole page?

Terry

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
It's not working. There seems to be something embedded in the document I
am using, or I am inadventently creating a problem. If I select "this
section," the borders always seem to appear either above or below where I
want them. If I select "section," it jumps to another section in the
document -- there is no selection for specific sections other than "this"
section.

The particular document I am working on is awkward because another member
e-mailed a page as she wanted it inserted in the newsletter. I can copy
and paste the document but not the border. The page she sent contains
several fonts, clip art, and text created with WordArt. I was not able to
simply use "insert" because it does not seem to fit any of the selections
I can make. If I choose "picture" for this particular file (which it is
not, of course), I get an error message. So, I would like to just copy
and paste the content of the document and then replace her border, but
then I'm back to my original problem. I can't get the border to attach to
the correct page. Ironically, I can "select all" and copy the entire page
(including border) into a new document, but the border disappears when I
try to paste it into this newsletter.

Incidentally, where should the cursor be positioned? I can position it to
the right of the dotted lines that show section break, or I can position
it above or below. However, I have not been able to position it to the
far right of the section break.

Thanks for any help. I am having a very hard time with this.

MaryL


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
You need to use Sections to control where the borders are located. If you
only want the border on the front page, you need to insert a section
break, next page at the end of the first page. Now when you go to Format
Borders, Page Borders, you will see that you can select which section you
want the border: obviously if it is only for the front page, then choose
the first section.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas trees)
for one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the section
has the border. I do not see an option for just "this page." I only
get options for whole document," "this section," "this section - first
page only," and "this section - all except first page." How do I select
a single specified page for a border (such as, on page 3 out of a 4 page
document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it (that
is, remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL




  #5  
Old December 10th, 2008, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
MaryL
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Posts: 75
Default Problems with borders

Sorry...I usually include that information but forgot it this time. I am
using Office 2007, but I have to work in compatibility mode because I create
the newsletter at home and then e-mail it to our church. They have Word
2003, so I have been saving everything as a Word 97-2003 document. I don't
know what version was used for the document I was trying to insert because
that came from still another source (a committee member who e-mailed the
flyer and asked to have it included in the newsletter). This flyer has a
couple of different fonts plus WordArt and some clipart.

I do not have an option for Insert: File. That is what I would have used in
WordPerfect, but I could not find it in Word. (On the other hand, I am a
newbie to Word.) I have these options in Word 2007: Picture, Clip Art,
Shapes, SmartArt, and Chart. I selected Picture because that seemed the
closest, but I am certainly open to suggestions! When I used Insert:
Picture for other documents, I was able to do it. But on this particular
document, I would either receive an error message (two occasions) or a
dialog box opened with a long list of options (which is what happened most
often). I did not recognize any of the options, and everything I clicked on
returned an error. The box included options such as Windows Enhanced
Metafile, Windows Metafile, and JPG File Interchange Format. There was a
long list of these names, and I am not familiar with any of them. Each
attempt to use one of them would result in "An error occurred while
importing this file."

I was finally able to reconstruct the file - after many attempts - by
copying and pasting the contents, then adding a border. Unfortunately, I am
not sure what I finally did that enabled it. I expect that the same
situation may occur in the future, so I would like to learn what I should be
doing. For example, where should the cursor be placed? Should it be on the
page where I want the border? That is what I expected, but that resulted in
a border jumping to a different page. This was one of the Art borders, and
I selected "this section."

I will also check with the person who created the flyer to see what version
of Word she used. If she is using Word 2007, I will ask her to save future
documents as Word 97-2003. Does it seem likely that this could be the
source of my problem?

Thanks for your help!

MaryL

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I am unable to help much with this. I don't which version of Word you are
using, which version was used to create the page you are trying to add or
how that user created the border you want to include.

Usually, if you place the cursor in your document and then use Insert,
File to add the other single page document, it should insert in total. How
are you inserting it? I suggest at the very top of your document, you
insert a Section Break, Next page which will leave you a blank front page.
With the cursor still on the front page, use Insert File and select the
user's file. Does that not bring in the whole page?

Terry

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
It's not working. There seems to be something embedded in the document I
am using, or I am inadventently creating a problem. If I select "this
section," the borders always seem to appear either above or below where I
want them. If I select "section," it jumps to another section in the
document -- there is no selection for specific sections other than "this"
section.

The particular document I am working on is awkward because another member
e-mailed a page as she wanted it inserted in the newsletter. I can copy
and paste the document but not the border. The page she sent contains
several fonts, clip art, and text created with WordArt. I was not able
to simply use "insert" because it does not seem to fit any of the
selections I can make. If I choose "picture" for this particular file
(which it is not, of course), I get an error message. So, I would like
to just copy and paste the content of the document and then replace her
border, but then I'm back to my original problem. I can't get the border
to attach to the correct page. Ironically, I can "select all" and copy
the entire page (including border) into a new document, but the border
disappears when I try to paste it into this newsletter.

Incidentally, where should the cursor be positioned? I can position it
to the right of the dotted lines that show section break, or I can
position it above or below. However, I have not been able to position it
to the far right of the section break.

Thanks for any help. I am having a very hard time with this.

MaryL


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
You need to use Sections to control where the borders are located. If
you only want the border on the front page, you need to insert a section
break, next page at the end of the first page. Now when you go to Format
Borders, Page Borders, you will see that you can select which section
you want the border: obviously if it is only for the front page, then
choose the first section.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas trees)
for one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the section
has the border. I do not see an option for just "this page." I only
get options for whole document," "this section," "this section - first
page only," and "this section - all except first page." How do I select
a single specified page for a border (such as, on page 3 out of a 4
page document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it
(that is, remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL




  #6  
Old December 10th, 2008, 05:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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Posts: 3,004
Default Problems with borders

Users of Word (Office 2000-2003) can download the free Office 2007
compatibility pack which will allow them to open and edit documents from
Office 2007. It also provides them with all the new fonts that come with
Office 2007 for compatibility.

The Insert File command is not on a Ribbon. But you can add it to your QAT
by right-click on the QAT and selecting Customise. Then select All Commands
and scroll down to select Insert File and choose Add to put it on the QAT.

Terry

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
Sorry...I usually include that information but forgot it this time. I am
using Office 2007, but I have to work in compatibility mode because I
create the newsletter at home and then e-mail it to our church. They have
Word 2003, so I have been saving everything as a Word 97-2003 document. I
don't know what version was used for the document I was trying to insert
because that came from still another source (a committee member who
e-mailed the flyer and asked to have it included in the newsletter). This
flyer has a couple of different fonts plus WordArt and some clipart.

I do not have an option for Insert: File. That is what I would have used
in WordPerfect, but I could not find it in Word. (On the other hand, I am
a newbie to Word.) I have these options in Word 2007: Picture, Clip Art,
Shapes, SmartArt, and Chart. I selected Picture because that seemed the
closest, but I am certainly open to suggestions! When I used Insert:
Picture for other documents, I was able to do it. But on this particular
document, I would either receive an error message (two occasions) or a
dialog box opened with a long list of options (which is what happened most
often). I did not recognize any of the options, and everything I clicked
on returned an error. The box included options such as Windows Enhanced
Metafile, Windows Metafile, and JPG File Interchange Format. There was a
long list of these names, and I am not familiar with any of them. Each
attempt to use one of them would result in "An error occurred while
importing this file."

I was finally able to reconstruct the file - after many attempts - by
copying and pasting the contents, then adding a border. Unfortunately, I
am not sure what I finally did that enabled it. I expect that the same
situation may occur in the future, so I would like to learn what I should
be doing. For example, where should the cursor be placed? Should it be
on the page where I want the border? That is what I expected, but that
resulted in a border jumping to a different page. This was one of the Art
borders, and I selected "this section."

I will also check with the person who created the flyer to see what
version of Word she used. If she is using Word 2007, I will ask her to
save future documents as Word 97-2003. Does it seem likely that this
could be the source of my problem?

Thanks for your help!

MaryL

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I am unable to help much with this. I don't which version of Word you are
using, which version was used to create the page you are trying to add or
how that user created the border you want to include.

Usually, if you place the cursor in your document and then use Insert,
File to add the other single page document, it should insert in total.
How are you inserting it? I suggest at the very top of your document, you
insert a Section Break, Next page which will leave you a blank front
page. With the cursor still on the front page, use Insert File and select
the user's file. Does that not bring in the whole page?

Terry

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
It's not working. There seems to be something embedded in the document
I am using, or I am inadventently creating a problem. If I select "this
section," the borders always seem to appear either above or below where
I want them. If I select "section," it jumps to another section in the
document -- there is no selection for specific sections other than
"this" section.

The particular document I am working on is awkward because another
member e-mailed a page as she wanted it inserted in the newsletter. I
can copy and paste the document but not the border. The page she sent
contains several fonts, clip art, and text created with WordArt. I was
not able to simply use "insert" because it does not seem to fit any of
the selections I can make. If I choose "picture" for this particular
file (which it is not, of course), I get an error message. So, I would
like to just copy and paste the content of the document and then replace
her border, but then I'm back to my original problem. I can't get the
border to attach to the correct page. Ironically, I can "select all"
and copy the entire page (including border) into a new document, but the
border disappears when I try to paste it into this newsletter.

Incidentally, where should the cursor be positioned? I can position it
to the right of the dotted lines that show section break, or I can
position it above or below. However, I have not been able to position
it to the far right of the section break.

Thanks for any help. I am having a very hard time with this.

MaryL


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
You need to use Sections to control where the borders are located. If
you only want the border on the front page, you need to insert a
section break, next page at the end of the first page. Now when you go
to Format Borders, Page Borders, you will see that you can select which
section you want the border: obviously if it is only for the front
page, then choose the first section.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas
trees) for one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the
section has the border. I do not see an option for just "this page."
I only get options for whole document," "this section," "this
section - first page only," and "this section - all except first
page." How do I select a single specified page for a border (such as,
on page 3 out of a 4 page document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it
(that is, remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL





  #7  
Old December 10th, 2008, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
MaryL
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Posts: 75
Default Problems with borders

Thank you. I followed your instructions, saw the list with Insert: File,
added it, and checked on OK. But now I don't see it. Should it now appear
on the ribbon, or do I need to look elsewhere? The QAT ribbon looks just as
it did before.

MaryL


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Users of Word (Office 2000-2003) can download the free Office 2007
compatibility pack which will allow them to open and edit documents from
Office 2007. It also provides them with all the new fonts that come with
Office 2007 for compatibility.

The Insert File command is not on a Ribbon. But you can add it to your QAT
by right-click on the QAT and selecting Customise. Then select All
Commands and scroll down to select Insert File and choose Add to put it on
the QAT.

Terry


  #8  
Old December 10th, 2008, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Problems with borders

On the Insert tab (Text group), choose Object, then Text from File. That's
the equivalent of Insert | File. Also, have you considered using the PDF
add-in to convert the newsletter to a PDF and send that to the church?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
Sorry...I usually include that information but forgot it this time. I am
using Office 2007, but I have to work in compatibility mode because I
create the newsletter at home and then e-mail it to our church. They have
Word 2003, so I have been saving everything as a Word 97-2003 document. I
don't know what version was used for the document I was trying to insert
because that came from still another source (a committee member who
e-mailed the flyer and asked to have it included in the newsletter). This
flyer has a couple of different fonts plus WordArt and some clipart.

I do not have an option for Insert: File. That is what I would have used
in WordPerfect, but I could not find it in Word. (On the other hand, I am
a newbie to Word.) I have these options in Word 2007: Picture, Clip Art,
Shapes, SmartArt, and Chart. I selected Picture because that seemed the
closest, but I am certainly open to suggestions! When I used Insert:
Picture for other documents, I was able to do it. But on this particular
document, I would either receive an error message (two occasions) or a
dialog box opened with a long list of options (which is what happened most
often). I did not recognize any of the options, and everything I clicked
on returned an error. The box included options such as Windows Enhanced
Metafile, Windows Metafile, and JPG File Interchange Format. There was a
long list of these names, and I am not familiar with any of them. Each
attempt to use one of them would result in "An error occurred while
importing this file."

I was finally able to reconstruct the file - after many attempts - by
copying and pasting the contents, then adding a border. Unfortunately, I
am not sure what I finally did that enabled it. I expect that the same
situation may occur in the future, so I would like to learn what I should
be doing. For example, where should the cursor be placed? Should it be
on the page where I want the border? That is what I expected, but that
resulted in a border jumping to a different page. This was one of the Art
borders, and I selected "this section."

I will also check with the person who created the flyer to see what
version of Word she used. If she is using Word 2007, I will ask her to
save future documents as Word 97-2003. Does it seem likely that this
could be the source of my problem?

Thanks for your help!

MaryL

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I am unable to help much with this. I don't which version of Word you are
using, which version was used to create the page you are trying to add or
how that user created the border you want to include.

Usually, if you place the cursor in your document and then use Insert,
File to add the other single page document, it should insert in total.
How are you inserting it? I suggest at the very top of your document, you
insert a Section Break, Next page which will leave you a blank front
page. With the cursor still on the front page, use Insert File and select
the user's file. Does that not bring in the whole page?

Terry

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
It's not working. There seems to be something embedded in the document
I am using, or I am inadventently creating a problem. If I select "this
section," the borders always seem to appear either above or below where
I want them. If I select "section," it jumps to another section in the
document -- there is no selection for specific sections other than
"this" section.

The particular document I am working on is awkward because another
member e-mailed a page as she wanted it inserted in the newsletter. I
can copy and paste the document but not the border. The page she sent
contains several fonts, clip art, and text created with WordArt. I was
not able to simply use "insert" because it does not seem to fit any of
the selections I can make. If I choose "picture" for this particular
file (which it is not, of course), I get an error message. So, I would
like to just copy and paste the content of the document and then replace
her border, but then I'm back to my original problem. I can't get the
border to attach to the correct page. Ironically, I can "select all"
and copy the entire page (including border) into a new document, but the
border disappears when I try to paste it into this newsletter.

Incidentally, where should the cursor be positioned? I can position it
to the right of the dotted lines that show section break, or I can
position it above or below. However, I have not been able to position
it to the far right of the section break.

Thanks for any help. I am having a very hard time with this.

MaryL


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
You need to use Sections to control where the borders are located. If
you only want the border on the front page, you need to insert a
section break, next page at the end of the first page. Now when you go
to Format Borders, Page Borders, you will see that you can select which
section you want the border: obviously if it is only for the front
page, then choose the first section.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas
trees) for one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the
section has the border. I do not see an option for just "this page."
I only get options for whole document," "this section," "this
section - first page only," and "this section - all except first
page." How do I select a single specified page for a border (such as,
on page 3 out of a 4 page document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it
(that is, remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL







  #9  
Old December 10th, 2008, 07:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
MaryL
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 75
Default Problems with borders

Thanks, Suzanne. I just tried Insert | File. It did import the text but
not the border (which is probably what would be expected). However, I was
easily able to add the border.

I have considered PDF and wonderef if that would work. I have never used
PDF myself (except for reading, but not for writing) but would be willing to
try it. The one thing that has slowed me down is that the secretary has
occasionally need to add a "last minute" note after I e-mail the newsletter,
and I don't think she could do that if I used PDF. Is that correct?

MaryL


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
On the Insert tab (Text group), choose Object, then Text from File. That's
the equivalent of Insert | File. Also, have you considered using the PDF
add-in to convert the newsletter to a PDF and send that to the church?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
Sorry...I usually include that information but forgot it this time. I am
using Office 2007, but I have to work in compatibility mode because I
create the newsletter at home and then e-mail it to our church. They
have Word 2003, so I have been saving everything as a Word 97-2003
document. I don't know what version was used for the document I was
trying to insert because that came from still another source (a committee
member who e-mailed the flyer and asked to have it included in the
newsletter). This flyer has a couple of different fonts plus WordArt and
some clipart.

I do not have an option for Insert: File. That is what I would have used
in WordPerfect, but I could not find it in Word. (On the other hand, I
am a newbie to Word.) I have these options in Word 2007: Picture, Clip
Art, Shapes, SmartArt, and Chart. I selected Picture because that seemed
the closest, but I am certainly open to suggestions! When I used Insert:
Picture for other documents, I was able to do it. But on this particular
document, I would either receive an error message (two occasions) or a
dialog box opened with a long list of options (which is what happened
most often). I did not recognize any of the options, and everything I
clicked on returned an error. The box included options such as Windows
Enhanced Metafile, Windows Metafile, and JPG File Interchange Format.
There was a long list of these names, and I am not familiar with any of
them. Each attempt to use one of them would result in "An error occurred
while importing this file."

I was finally able to reconstruct the file - after many attempts - by
copying and pasting the contents, then adding a border. Unfortunately, I
am not sure what I finally did that enabled it. I expect that the same
situation may occur in the future, so I would like to learn what I should
be doing. For example, where should the cursor be placed? Should it be
on the page where I want the border? That is what I expected, but that
resulted in a border jumping to a different page. This was one of the
Art borders, and I selected "this section."

I will also check with the person who created the flyer to see what
version of Word she used. If she is using Word 2007, I will ask her to
save future documents as Word 97-2003. Does it seem likely that this
could be the source of my problem?

Thanks for your help!

MaryL

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I am unable to help much with this. I don't which version of Word you are
using, which version was used to create the page you are trying to add or
how that user created the border you want to include.

Usually, if you place the cursor in your document and then use Insert,
File to add the other single page document, it should insert in total.
How are you inserting it? I suggest at the very top of your document,
you insert a Section Break, Next page which will leave you a blank front
page. With the cursor still on the front page, use Insert File and
select the user's file. Does that not bring in the whole page?

Terry

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
It's not working. There seems to be something embedded in the document
I am using, or I am inadventently creating a problem. If I select
"this section," the borders always seem to appear either above or below
where I want them. If I select "section," it jumps to another section
in the document -- there is no selection for specific sections other
than "this" section.

The particular document I am working on is awkward because another
member e-mailed a page as she wanted it inserted in the newsletter. I
can copy and paste the document but not the border. The page she sent
contains several fonts, clip art, and text created with WordArt. I was
not able to simply use "insert" because it does not seem to fit any of
the selections I can make. If I choose "picture" for this particular
file (which it is not, of course), I get an error message. So, I would
like to just copy and paste the content of the document and then
replace her border, but then I'm back to my original problem. I can't
get the border to attach to the correct page. Ironically, I can
"select all" and copy the entire page (including border) into a new
document, but the border disappears when I try to paste it into this
newsletter.

Incidentally, where should the cursor be positioned? I can position it
to the right of the dotted lines that show section break, or I can
position it above or below. However, I have not been able to position
it to the far right of the section break.

Thanks for any help. I am having a very hard time with this.

MaryL


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
You need to use Sections to control where the borders are located. If
you only want the border on the front page, you need to insert a
section break, next page at the end of the first page. Now when you go
to Format Borders, Page Borders, you will see that you can select
which section you want the border: obviously if it is only for the
front page, then choose the first section.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas
trees) for one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the
section has the border. I do not see an option for just "this page."
I only get options for whole document," "this section," "this
section - first page only," and "this section - all except first
page." How do I select a single specified page for a border (such as,
on page 3 out of a 4 page document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it
(that is, remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL








  #10  
Old December 10th, 2008, 08:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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Posts: 3,004
Default Problems with borders

I never tried the Text from File option... I had no idea it was equivalent
to Insert, File. It sounds daft to me!

Terry

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
On the Insert tab (Text group), choose Object, then Text from File. That's
the equivalent of Insert | File. Also, have you considered using the PDF
add-in to convert the newsletter to a PDF and send that to the church?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
Sorry...I usually include that information but forgot it this time. I am
using Office 2007, but I have to work in compatibility mode because I
create the newsletter at home and then e-mail it to our church. They
have Word 2003, so I have been saving everything as a Word 97-2003
document. I don't know what version was used for the document I was
trying to insert because that came from still another source (a committee
member who e-mailed the flyer and asked to have it included in the
newsletter). This flyer has a couple of different fonts plus WordArt and
some clipart.

I do not have an option for Insert: File. That is what I would have used
in WordPerfect, but I could not find it in Word. (On the other hand, I
am a newbie to Word.) I have these options in Word 2007: Picture, Clip
Art, Shapes, SmartArt, and Chart. I selected Picture because that seemed
the closest, but I am certainly open to suggestions! When I used Insert:
Picture for other documents, I was able to do it. But on this particular
document, I would either receive an error message (two occasions) or a
dialog box opened with a long list of options (which is what happened
most often). I did not recognize any of the options, and everything I
clicked on returned an error. The box included options such as Windows
Enhanced Metafile, Windows Metafile, and JPG File Interchange Format.
There was a long list of these names, and I am not familiar with any of
them. Each attempt to use one of them would result in "An error occurred
while importing this file."

I was finally able to reconstruct the file - after many attempts - by
copying and pasting the contents, then adding a border. Unfortunately, I
am not sure what I finally did that enabled it. I expect that the same
situation may occur in the future, so I would like to learn what I should
be doing. For example, where should the cursor be placed? Should it be
on the page where I want the border? That is what I expected, but that
resulted in a border jumping to a different page. This was one of the
Art borders, and I selected "this section."

I will also check with the person who created the flyer to see what
version of Word she used. If she is using Word 2007, I will ask her to
save future documents as Word 97-2003. Does it seem likely that this
could be the source of my problem?

Thanks for your help!

MaryL

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I am unable to help much with this. I don't which version of Word you are
using, which version was used to create the page you are trying to add or
how that user created the border you want to include.

Usually, if you place the cursor in your document and then use Insert,
File to add the other single page document, it should insert in total.
How are you inserting it? I suggest at the very top of your document,
you insert a Section Break, Next page which will leave you a blank front
page. With the cursor still on the front page, use Insert File and
select the user's file. Does that not bring in the whole page?

Terry

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
It's not working. There seems to be something embedded in the document
I am using, or I am inadventently creating a problem. If I select
"this section," the borders always seem to appear either above or below
where I want them. If I select "section," it jumps to another section
in the document -- there is no selection for specific sections other
than "this" section.

The particular document I am working on is awkward because another
member e-mailed a page as she wanted it inserted in the newsletter. I
can copy and paste the document but not the border. The page she sent
contains several fonts, clip art, and text created with WordArt. I was
not able to simply use "insert" because it does not seem to fit any of
the selections I can make. If I choose "picture" for this particular
file (which it is not, of course), I get an error message. So, I would
like to just copy and paste the content of the document and then
replace her border, but then I'm back to my original problem. I can't
get the border to attach to the correct page. Ironically, I can
"select all" and copy the entire page (including border) into a new
document, but the border disappears when I try to paste it into this
newsletter.

Incidentally, where should the cursor be positioned? I can position it
to the right of the dotted lines that show section break, or I can
position it above or below. However, I have not been able to position
it to the far right of the section break.

Thanks for any help. I am having a very hard time with this.

MaryL


"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
You need to use Sections to control where the borders are located. If
you only want the border on the front page, you need to insert a
section break, next page at the end of the first page. Now when you go
to Format Borders, Page Borders, you will see that you can select
which section you want the border: obviously if it is only for the
front page, then choose the first section.

--
Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...
I am having problems trying to use borders in a newsletter.

First, I was asked to use one of the borders in "Art" (Christmas
trees) for one page. If I click on "this section," every page in the
section has the border. I do not see an option for just "this page."
I only get options for whole document," "this section," "this
section - first page only," and "this section - all except first
page." How do I select a single specified page for a border (such as,
on page 3 out of a 4 page document)?

Second, when a border already exists on a page, how do I delete it
(that is, remove it not simply change it)?

Thank you,

MaryL








 




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