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Old September 24th, 2008, 02:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Catch 23
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Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in a
Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They all
print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full Screen
Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images appear as an
empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.
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Old September 24th, 2008, 03:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Jay Freedman
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Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

Catch 23 wrote:
I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in a
Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They all
print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full Screen
Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images appear as an
empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.


Go to Office button Word Options Advanced Show document content. Check
the box for "Show drawings and text boxes on screen" and uncheck the box for
"Show picture placeholders".

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Jay Freedman
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Old September 24th, 2008, 04:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Catch 23
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Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:59:01 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Catch 23 wrote:
I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in a
Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They all
print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full Screen
Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images appear as an
empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.


Go to Office button Word Options Advanced Show document content. Check
the box for "Show drawings and text boxes on screen" and uncheck the box for
"Show picture placeholders".


Thank you. I fiddled with those, but never got the right combination.
Perfect. Happy camper. ;-)
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Old October 28th, 2008, 02:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Sesquipedalian Sam
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Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:59:01 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Catch 23 wrote:
I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in a
Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They all
print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full Screen
Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images appear as an
empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.


Go to Office button Word Options Advanced Show document content. Check
the box for "Show drawings and text boxes on screen" and uncheck the box for
"Show picture placeholders".


Jay,

I am having trouble with this again. I uploaded a Word 2007 document
with a graphgic that will not display in draft view. I think I have
the setting as your suggest.

Here's the link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hpyonr

Thanks
  #5  
Old October 28th, 2008, 03:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Jay Freedman
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Posts: 9,488
Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

Sesquipedalian Sam wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:59:01 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Catch 23 wrote:
I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in
a Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They
all print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full
Screen Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images
appear as an empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.


Go to Office button Word Options Advanced Show document
content. Check the box for "Show drawings and text boxes on screen"
and uncheck the box for "Show picture placeholders".


Jay,

I am having trouble with this again. I uploaded a Word 2007 document
with a graphgic that will not display in draft view. I think I have
the setting as your suggest.

Here's the link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hpyonr

Thanks


There's nothing wrong with the document or your settings. My previous reply
was aimed at getting the graphics to display in Print Layout view, which you
said was showing empty boxes. Your document does display the picture in that
view. However, Draft view is a different story.

It seems that Draft view in Word 2007 is not identical to Normal view in
Word 2003. In particular, Draft view doesn't show _any_ graphics, regardless
of their text wrapping; the old Normal view would show inline graphics but
not floating ones.

As an experiment, I saved your document in Word 2003 .doc format and opened
that file in Word 2003 -- and the inline graphic does display in Normal
view.

Please note that this is an "experimental" result, not a statement of a
documented change in behavior. Someone else may come along with knowledge of
a setting I've overlooked.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.


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Old October 28th, 2008, 03:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Sesquipedalian Sam
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Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:10:46 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Sesquipedalian Sam wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:59:01 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Catch 23 wrote:
I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in
a Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They
all print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full
Screen Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images
appear as an empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.

Go to Office button Word Options Advanced Show document
content. Check the box for "Show drawings and text boxes on screen"
and uncheck the box for "Show picture placeholders".


Jay,

I am having trouble with this again. I uploaded a Word 2007 document
with a graphgic that will not display in draft view. I think I have
the setting as your suggest.

Here's the link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hpyonr

Thanks


There's nothing wrong with the document or your settings. My previous reply
was aimed at getting the graphics to display in Print Layout view, which you
said was showing empty boxes. Your document does display the picture in that
view. However, Draft view is a different story.


In the original post, the question was about both Print and Draft
view. I almost always work in draft view. Your solution fixed the
problem in Draft view.

It seems that Draft view in Word 2007 is not identical to Normal view in
Word 2003. In particular, Draft view doesn't show _any_ graphics, regardless
of their text wrapping; the old Normal view would show inline graphics but
not floating ones.


This is not correct. As I said, your solution worked perfectly in
Draft view. I have many documents with graphics crated in Visio and
they all display properly in Draft view.

I have modified my previous upload to include one of those graphics
from Visio. It displays just fine in Draft view. The first graphic,
which was created in a graphing program, still does not display.

So, there has to be something different about the two graphics. In
both cases, I used the clipboard.

Here's the new link to a modified file with two graphics. The previous
one still does not display. The one I added does.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hrfdg1

As an experiment, I saved your document in Word 2003 .doc format and opened
that file in Word 2003 -- and the inline graphic does display in Normal
view.

Please note that this is an "experimental" result, not a statement of a
documented change in behavior. Someone else may come along with knowledge of
a setting I've overlooked.

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Old October 28th, 2008, 11:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Sesquipedalian Sam
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Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:52:41 -0700, Sesquipedalian Sam
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:10:46 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Sesquipedalian Sam wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:59:01 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Catch 23 wrote:
I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in
a Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They
all print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full
Screen Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images
appear as an empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.

Go to Office button Word Options Advanced Show document
content. Check the box for "Show drawings and text boxes on screen"
and uncheck the box for "Show picture placeholders".

Jay,

I am having trouble with this again. I uploaded a Word 2007 document
with a graphgic that will not display in draft view. I think I have
the setting as your suggest.

Here's the link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hpyonr

Thanks


There's nothing wrong with the document or your settings. My previous reply
was aimed at getting the graphics to display in Print Layout view, which you
said was showing empty boxes. Your document does display the picture in that
view. However, Draft view is a different story.


In the original post, the question was about both Print and Draft
view. I almost always work in draft view. Your solution fixed the
problem in Draft view.

It seems that Draft view in Word 2007 is not identical to Normal view in
Word 2003. In particular, Draft view doesn't show _any_ graphics, regardless
of their text wrapping; the old Normal view would show inline graphics but
not floating ones.


This is not correct. As I said, your solution worked perfectly in
Draft view. I have many documents with graphics crated in Visio and
they all display properly in Draft view.

I have modified my previous upload to include one of those graphics
from Visio. It displays just fine in Draft view. The first graphic,
which was created in a graphing program, still does not display.

So, there has to be something different about the two graphics. In
both cases, I used the clipboard.

Here's the new link to a modified file with two graphics. The previous
one still does not display. The one I added does.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hrfdg1

As an experiment, I saved your document in Word 2003 .doc format and opened
that file in Word 2003 -- and the inline graphic does display in Normal
view.

Please note that this is an "experimental" result, not a statement of a
documented change in behavior. Someone else may come along with knowledge of
a setting I've overlooked.


One more piece of data: If I switch to Print Layout, then both images
display. If I select the first one (that does NOT display in Draft
Layout, I get a different set of handles than if I select the second
one (that DOES display in Draft Layout).

The one that DOES display acquires a dotted border and 8 square light
blue handles. The one tghat does NOT display, acquires 8 handles, but
they are "hollow" and tne corner oves are round. There is also a
rotate handle at the top.

Finally, the one that DOES display has a grey background like a field,
so I tried Shift-F9 and it became {EMBED Visio.drawing.11 }. The other
one was unaffected.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 12:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Jay Freedman
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Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:27:03 -0700, Sesquipedalian Sam
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:52:41 -0700, Sesquipedalian Sam
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:10:46 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Sesquipedalian Sam wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:59:01 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Catch 23 wrote:
I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in
a Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They
all print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full
Screen Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images
appear as an empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.

Go to Office button Word Options Advanced Show document
content. Check the box for "Show drawings and text boxes on screen"
and uncheck the box for "Show picture placeholders".

Jay,

I am having trouble with this again. I uploaded a Word 2007 document
with a graphgic that will not display in draft view. I think I have
the setting as your suggest.

Here's the link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hpyonr

Thanks

There's nothing wrong with the document or your settings. My previous reply
was aimed at getting the graphics to display in Print Layout view, which you
said was showing empty boxes. Your document does display the picture in that
view. However, Draft view is a different story.


In the original post, the question was about both Print and Draft
view. I almost always work in draft view. Your solution fixed the
problem in Draft view.

It seems that Draft view in Word 2007 is not identical to Normal view in
Word 2003. In particular, Draft view doesn't show _any_ graphics, regardless
of their text wrapping; the old Normal view would show inline graphics but
not floating ones.


This is not correct. As I said, your solution worked perfectly in
Draft view. I have many documents with graphics crated in Visio and
they all display properly in Draft view.

I have modified my previous upload to include one of those graphics
from Visio. It displays just fine in Draft view. The first graphic,
which was created in a graphing program, still does not display.

So, there has to be something different about the two graphics. In
both cases, I used the clipboard.

Here's the new link to a modified file with two graphics. The previous
one still does not display. The one I added does.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hrfdg1

As an experiment, I saved your document in Word 2003 .doc format and opened
that file in Word 2003 -- and the inline graphic does display in Normal
view.

Please note that this is an "experimental" result, not a statement of a
documented change in behavior. Someone else may come along with knowledge of
a setting I've overlooked.


One more piece of data: If I switch to Print Layout, then both images
display. If I select the first one (that does NOT display in Draft
Layout, I get a different set of handles than if I select the second
one (that DOES display in Draft Layout).

The one that DOES display acquires a dotted border and 8 square light
blue handles. The one tghat does NOT display, acquires 8 handles, but
they are "hollow" and tne corner oves are round. There is also a
rotate handle at the top.

Finally, the one that DOES display has a grey background like a field,
so I tried Shift-F9 and it became {EMBED Visio.drawing.11 }. The other
one was unaffected.


To you, a graphic is a graphic, and you expect them all to behave the same. To
Word, there are many different kinds of objects, and some of them behave very
differently from others.

The first graphic in your file is an ordinary picture, placed with the Insert
Picture button and with Inline text wrapping. That's the one that is displayed
in Page Layout view (and in Normal view in Word 2003) but not in Draft view.

The other graphic is a Visio drawing object, placed with Insert Object and
again with Inline text wrapping. That's why its handles are different from those
the first one and why it shows a field when you toggle field codes. It appears
in both Page Layout and Draft views.

If you right-click the Visio drawing and choose Format Object, click the Layout
tab, and choose one of the other wrappings (everything except Inline is some
form of floating wrapping), then the Visio drawing also becomes invisible in
Draft view. (Yes, I know, that's the opposite of what you want.) On the other
hand, I haven't yet found any way of converting the first graphic into anything
that will display in Draft view.

I have only one more comment: Draft view is intended primarily for use on
underpowered computers to speed up operations. With that objective, Microsoft
designed it deliberately to suppress graphics, pagination, fancy formatting, and
other things that take considerable processor power. Almost any computer built
in the last 5 years has enough oomph to work at full speed in Page Layout view
at all times, and if you want to see all the graphics, that's how you're going
to have to use it.


--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 12:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Sesquipedalian Sam
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Default Graphics only visible in Full Screen Reading mode

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:19:50 -0400, Jay Freedman
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:27:03 -0700, Sesquipedalian Sam
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:52:41 -0700, Sesquipedalian Sam
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:10:46 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Sesquipedalian Sam wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:59:01 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote:

Catch 23 wrote:
I created a simple graphic in Visio 2003, which I want to insert in
a Word document. I am using Word 2007, but the document needs to be
saved in compatibility mode.

I have tried inserting the image in various ways and formats. They
all print correctly, but are only visible on the screen in Full
Screen Reading mode. In both Draft and Print layout, the images
appear as an empty box.

How can I get the images to be visible, especially in draft mode?

I used to do this all the time with Word 2003.

Go to Office button Word Options Advanced Show document
content. Check the box for "Show drawings and text boxes on screen"
and uncheck the box for "Show picture placeholders".

Jay,

I am having trouble with this again. I uploaded a Word 2007 document
with a graphgic that will not display in draft view. I think I have
the setting as your suggest.

Here's the link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hpyonr

Thanks

There's nothing wrong with the document or your settings. My previous reply
was aimed at getting the graphics to display in Print Layout view, which you
said was showing empty boxes. Your document does display the picture in that
view. However, Draft view is a different story.

In the original post, the question was about both Print and Draft
view. I almost always work in draft view. Your solution fixed the
problem in Draft view.

It seems that Draft view in Word 2007 is not identical to Normal view in
Word 2003. In particular, Draft view doesn't show _any_ graphics, regardless
of their text wrapping; the old Normal view would show inline graphics but
not floating ones.

This is not correct. As I said, your solution worked perfectly in
Draft view. I have many documents with graphics crated in Visio and
they all display properly in Draft view.

I have modified my previous upload to include one of those graphics
from Visio. It displays just fine in Draft view. The first graphic,
which was created in a graphing program, still does not display.

So, there has to be something different about the two graphics. In
both cases, I used the clipboard.

Here's the new link to a modified file with two graphics. The previous
one still does not display. The one I added does.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hrfdg1

As an experiment, I saved your document in Word 2003 .doc format and opened
that file in Word 2003 -- and the inline graphic does display in Normal
view.

Please note that this is an "experimental" result, not a statement of a
documented change in behavior. Someone else may come along with knowledge of
a setting I've overlooked.


One more piece of data: If I switch to Print Layout, then both images
display. If I select the first one (that does NOT display in Draft
Layout, I get a different set of handles than if I select the second
one (that DOES display in Draft Layout).

The one that DOES display acquires a dotted border and 8 square light
blue handles. The one tghat does NOT display, acquires 8 handles, but
they are "hollow" and tne corner oves are round. There is also a
rotate handle at the top.

Finally, the one that DOES display has a grey background like a field,
so I tried Shift-F9 and it became {EMBED Visio.drawing.11 }. The other
one was unaffected.


To you, a graphic is a graphic, and you expect them all to behave the same.


Yep, that's correct. I expect all graphics to work the same and Word
to do whatever it takes to make that happen.

To
Word, there are many different kinds of objects, and some of them behave very
differently from others.


I guess I was working under the false impression that I was the user
and the application was written for my convenience. You know, ease of
use, consistency, etc. All this junk should be buried under the
covers.

Sounds like the old programmer's syndrome. Write the code from the
perspective of and the benefit of the application and the programmer.

The first graphic in your file is an ordinary picture, placed with the Insert
Picture button and with Inline text wrapping. That's the one that is displayed
in Page Layout view (and in Normal view in Word 2003) but not in Draft view.

The other graphic is a Visio drawing object, placed with Insert Object and
again with Inline text wrapping. That's why its handles are different from those
the first one and why it shows a field when you toggle field codes. It appears
in both Page Layout and Draft views.

If you right-click the Visio drawing and choose Format Object, click the Layout
tab, and choose one of the other wrappings (everything except Inline is some
form of floating wrapping), then the Visio drawing also becomes invisible in
Draft view. (Yes, I know, that's the opposite of what you want.) On the other
hand, I haven't yet found any way of converting the first graphic into anything
that will display in Draft view.


OK. Thanks for the effort. If yo find anything, I'd be interested in
learning about it.

I have only one more comment: Draft view is intended primarily for use on
underpowered computers to speed up operations. With that objective, Microsoft
designed it deliberately to suppress graphics, pagination, fancy formatting, and
other things that take considerable processor power. Almost any computer built
in the last 5 years has enough oomph to work at full speed in Page Layout view
at all times, and if you want to see all the graphics, that's how you're going
to have to use it.


Poor design in my opinion. I don't like Page Layout. Word screws up
all the time, especially if I suppress (compress out) headers and
footers. I often get double text and have to page back and forth to
rebuild the page or risk entring text in the wrong place.

This is really infuriating. 2007 is two steps forward and at least one
back -- sometimes three.
 




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