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  #11  
Old October 23rd, 2007, 06:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Problem with inserting caption Word 2007

Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply sequential
numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or
"Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1." What you type after the
label is the caption itself. If you don't need the captions labeled and
numbered then you can still apply the Caption paragraph style, which will
allow the captions to be picked up by a Table of Figures or List of
Illustrations or whatever.

Note, however, that the word "caption" has a number of meanings, differing
in various contexts; the one you may be most familiar with is newspaper
photos, but they are actually called "cutlines" in the trade (because the
halftone photos, when they were actually sort of engravings mounted on
wooden blocks inserted in blocks of hot type, were "cuts").

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
A caption is just a text (your caption text) with a seq field added (the
number). Once inserted it can be edited in the document just like any

other
text. Select the number (the seq field) and delete it.


Thank you. For some unknown reason, this morning, I couldn't delete it.

Now
I can.
However I've decided to forget Captions, as whenever I add one ( I have 5
pictures on the page with a lot of gap between each), it moves the

pictures
about in such a way that I can't seem to drag them back again to where

they
were. Text boxes don't do that.

I still don't understand why MS should ASSUME that users want numbers in
their captions automatically in the first place...




  #12  
Old October 24th, 2007, 09:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Gordon
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Default Problem with inserting caption Word 2007

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply
sequential
numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or
"Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1."


That's absolutely fine - BUT, that function should be something the user
turns on IF they want it - it should NOT be automatic and by default. Or,
under Number formatting there should be an option for none. I wasted at
least an hour and a half of fruitless time yesterday trying to find how to
turn it off. There is NOTHING in Office online Help about the fact that you
can in fact just delete the field after having created the caption.


  #13  
Old October 24th, 2007, 10:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Graham Mayor
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Default Problem with inserting caption Word 2007

You have wasted more of your (and our) time whingeing about a function that
does what it is intended to do - rather than what you want it to do. This is
not how it works, nor ever has in Word - get over it!


Gordon wrote:
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply
sequential
numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1"
or "Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1."


That's absolutely fine - BUT, that function should be something the
user turns on IF they want it - it should NOT be automatic and by
default. Or, under Number formatting there should be an option for
none. I wasted at least an hour and a half of fruitless time
yesterday trying to find how to turn it off. There is NOTHING in
Office online Help about the fact that you can in fact just delete
the field after having created the caption.



  #14  
Old October 24th, 2007, 10:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Gordon
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Default Problem with inserting caption Word 2007

Graham Mayor wrote:
You have wasted more of your (and our) time whingeing about a function that
does what it is intended to do - rather than what you want it to do. This is
not how it works, nor ever has in Word - get over it!


I repeat - arrogance of MS. It is NOT how "ORDINARY" users define a
caption. And WHY is there nothing in help to say that the field CAN be
deleted?
  #15  
Old October 24th, 2007, 10:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Stefan Blom
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Default Problem with inserting caption Word 2007

Note that if you remove the SEQ fields, you won't be able to build a table
of figures based on the chosen caption label (because the TOC field actually
looks for the SEQ fields), but you can work around this by building the TOF
on a particular style instead.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply
sequential
numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or
"Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1." What you type after the
label is the caption itself. If you don't need the captions labeled and
numbered then you can still apply the Caption paragraph style, which will
allow the captions to be picked up by a Table of Figures or List of
Illustrations or whatever.

Note, however, that the word "caption" has a number of meanings, differing
in various contexts; the one you may be most familiar with is newspaper
photos, but they are actually called "cutlines" in the trade (because the
halftone photos, when they were actually sort of engravings mounted on
wooden blocks inserted in blocks of hot type, were "cuts").

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
A caption is just a text (your caption text) with a seq field added (the
number). Once inserted it can be edited in the document just like any

other
text. Select the number (the seq field) and delete it.


Thank you. For some unknown reason, this morning, I couldn't delete it.

Now
I can.
However I've decided to forget Captions, as whenever I add one ( I have 5
pictures on the page with a lot of gap between each), it moves the

pictures
about in such a way that I can't seem to drag them back again to where

they
were. Text boxes don't do that.

I still don't understand why MS should ASSUME that users want numbers in
their captions automatically in the first place...






  #16  
Old October 24th, 2007, 11:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Graham Mayor
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Default Problem with inserting caption Word 2007

Gordon wrote:
Graham Mayor wrote:
You have wasted more of your (and our) time whingeing about a
function that does what it is intended to do - rather than what you
want it to do. This is not how it works, nor ever has in Word - get
over it!


I repeat - arrogance of MS. It is NOT how "ORDINARY" users define a
caption. And WHY is there nothing in help to say that the field CAN be
deleted?


*Any* text or field inserted in a document can be deleted!


  #17  
Old October 24th, 2007, 03:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Problem with inserting caption Word 2007

The Caption feature is intended for technical and academic documents, the
writers of which *do* understand "caption" in this sense. There is no need
whatsoever to use the Caption feature to create what is merely an ordinary
text paragraph. I'm surprised that you even wanted to use it that way.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the caption feature is intended to make it easy to apply
sequential
numbered captions for figures and tables. The "label" is "Figure 1" or
"Table 1" or a custom label such as "Exhibit 1."


That's absolutely fine - BUT, that function should be something the user
turns on IF they want it - it should NOT be automatic and by default. Or,
under Number formatting there should be an option for none. I wasted at
least an hour and a half of fruitless time yesterday trying to find how to
turn it off. There is NOTHING in Office online Help about the fact that

you
can in fact just delete the field after having created the caption.



 




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