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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
Of course, Automatic Font Colour: I'd forgotten that! It makes it much
simpler. I'll remember that (not that I use that combination). Terry "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... You don't necessarily need to go that far, you can use the Page Color and the font will automatically change to a white text, provided you are using theme colors, that is. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Of course, you can sort of work around it with W2007 by creating a custom Style Set based on your usual Style Set but with a blue background and fonts set to white. Terry |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
You could even create a Theme for editing/creating your documents and then
switch it to a more vanilla/generic Theme and remove the Page Color prior to distributing a document for other users. (And of course to make it simple you could use a macro to do the switching and Page Color change.) It's actually a little more flexible than before color-wise. Some thought the blue was to dark and the white too bright since those can be just as harsh for some folks. For example some would prefer a lighter blue and yellow font. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Of course, Automatic Font Colour: I'd forgotten that! It makes it much simpler. I'll remember that (not that I use that combination). Terry "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... You don't necessarily need to go that far, you can use the Page Color and the font will automatically change to a white text, provided you are using theme colors, that is. Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Terry Farrell" wrote in message ... Of course, you can sort of work around it with W2007 by creating a custom Style Set based on your usual Style Set but with a blue background and fonts set to white. Terry |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
There are two separate issues here. You say that 2007 has improved
features. I don't question that. My question is, was it necessary to remake the entire Word user interface to produce these new features? Let's say that Styles works better in 2007. Fine. Was it necessary to eliminate the toolbars and replace the file menu by the Microsoft Office button in order to improve the Styles feature? If you can't answer yes to that question and similar questions, then you have not justified the total remake of Word in 2007. This is not a matter of whether I and others are "closed-minded" to Word 2007's good features. It's a matter of whether the destruction of the total user interface of Word was needed to arrive at those good features. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I didn't say it took months, I was saying that I've spent over 18 months using Office 2007 and feel as though I have an "educated" opinion of things. I was very opinionated about a few things, just as most who have only scratched the surface, but then I realized I was viewing things as I viewed my switch from WP 5.0 to Word, or WordBasic to Visual Basic. It was then I decided to hold off forming an opinion on various matters until I gained more insight. There are still things I don't like but there were things I didn't like in the older versions as well. To be perfectly honest, I think I could type until my fingers are blue, as opposed to talking until I'm blue in the face (g), and it won't make a bit of difference. Those who want to view the change with an open mind will, those who don't, won't. It's like trying to tell convince a hard-core WP user of the benefits of Word. ;-) Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Larry" wrote in message ... Beth, What you're saying is that you had to spend months of your life completely re-learning and re-customizing Word to your needs, with the previous 15 years you had spent learning Word being lost, all for the benefit of some marginal improvements in the efficiency of some tasks. Second, the improvements you mention did NOT require the total redesign of the interface. For example, you write: Plus those who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find them easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to create a style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called a Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category using a dialog box. Well, AutoText could have been changed without, e.g., getting rid of Toolbars and menus! Similarly, greater ease of use in learning Styles did not require a radically revamped Word. It just required that the Styles feature itself be changed. I have nothing against MS adding new features to Word. But to destroy the basic user interface of Word and basic features and capabilities that millions of people have invested many years of work in, and replace it with another, is just wrong. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I've been using Office 2007 for over 18 months and at first, like the majority I hated it. I thought MS made a bad move, it was going to fail, and so on. I don't feel that way anymore. (Heh, you should have seen some of my "persuasive feedback" - the comments you've made are mild in comparison - especially when it came to removing the ease in toolbar/menu customization. g). But you know, even though I know how to customize the Ribbon it's really not necessary for me to customize it for my every day work. I have come up with alternate methods that fit my needs. For example I have several templates that have a customized QAT with commands for specific tasks and I load/unload them as global templates according the task at hand. (I still have a complaint about the inability to float toolbars....) After using the new interface I can now honestly see how it actually does improve work flow and I can perform tasks in Word that used to take a half hour or more in a few simple clicks. And it places capabilities that were once used exclusively by power users into the hands of everyone. Plus those who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find them easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to create a style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called a Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category using a dialog box. And there was difficulty remembering what you called them, now they are more visually oriented for insertion (and yes you can still assign keyboard shortcuts if you want). Form development is another example. The ability to easily create bound forms in Word has been a long standing request and that functionality is now available using Content Controls AND they automatically update without the need to add extra steps or use a macro. Content Controls also resolve another long standing request, to protect portions of a document for data entry without losing spell check and other functionality. Oh, and Styles have been lifted up and are easier for beginners to use. Even the basic beginner books are including how to use and modify styles. And I've noticed many of the beginning Word books are encouraging users to use formatted space between paragraphs instead of empty paragraphs due to the new defaults. (Thank goodness!!) BUT in order to fully see and understand these capabilities one can't be resistant to change. That was my stumbling block for several months. I wanted Word (and the other Office apps) to function as I was accustomed to them functioning for over the last 15 years. To use the new versions effectively it does require a bit of change, such as change how you may have previously accomplished a task but in the end it is faster and more efficient. The key is if you want to embrace the change or fight the change. If you fight it then you'll hate it and find it lacking. If you embrace it you may just find what I have found, that change can indeed be a "good thing". Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Larry" wrote in message ... Beth, You've opened my eyes. Now I understand the logic behind Microsoft's destruction of Word. By the same logic by which the menus were eliminated, since the "majority" of users don't create custom toolbars and custom menus, MS just did away with them as well. Or at least made it much harder to create and install them--I haven't figured this all out yet. In any case, the former beautiful feature by which you opened the Customize dialog box and could effortllessly create a new toolbar and give it a name put on it what you wanted seems to be gone. Hey, folks, the "majority" of users also never create a macro, never edit a macro, and never assign a custom keystroke to a macro or to a built-in command. So, by MS's logic of only keeping features that "most" users use, how come MS didn't eliminate VBA, eliminate macro recording, eliminate macros, eliminate the Macro dialog box, eliminate the VBA editing interface, and eliminate the Customize Keyboard dialog box??? The great thing about Word was that it had thousands of capabilities, and each user, depending on his interests, might only deal with a small part of them. So each person could in effect have his own "Word." But now we've moved away from such diversity toward a single uniformity. A single "majority rule" determines what will be in Word. Only what the 90 percent of users who are mediocre users will determine what is in Word. Everything that a more skilled and creative or just idiosyncratic user of Word might want to access is to be eliminated. That appears to be the logic. The only thing that saves the situation from total disaster is that MS has not yet been completely consistent in its program of destruction, so it has still left some "non-popular" features in place. Larry |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
Styles were merely an example that came to mind at the time.
You know, Larry, just based on previous discussions I've had with you on topics of an even more simiplic nature I know there nothing I can say to you that will change your mind... Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton "Larry" wrote in message ... There are two separate issues here. You say that 2007 has improved features. I don't question that. My question is, was it necessary to remake the entire Word user interface to produce these new features? Let's say that Styles works better in 2007. Fine. Was it necessary to eliminate the toolbars and replace the file menu by the Microsoft Office button in order to improve the Styles feature? If you can't answer yes to that question and similar questions, then you have not justified the total remake of Word in 2007. This is not a matter of whether I and others are "closed-minded" to Word 2007's good features. It's a matter of whether the destruction of the total user interface of Word was needed to arrive at those good features. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I didn't say it took months, I was saying that I've spent over 18 months using Office 2007 and feel as though I have an "educated" opinion of things. I was very opinionated about a few things, just as most who have only scratched the surface, but then I realized I was viewing things as I viewed my switch from WP 5.0 to Word, or WordBasic to Visual Basic. It was then I decided to hold off forming an opinion on various matters until I gained more insight. There are still things I don't like but there were things I didn't like in the older versions as well. To be perfectly honest, I think I could type until my fingers are blue, as opposed to talking until I'm blue in the face (g), and it won't make a bit of difference. Those who want to view the change with an open mind will, those who don't, won't. It's like trying to tell convince a hard-core WP user of the benefits of Word. ;-) Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Larry" wrote in message ... Beth, What you're saying is that you had to spend months of your life completely re-learning and re-customizing Word to your needs, with the previous 15 years you had spent learning Word being lost, all for the benefit of some marginal improvements in the efficiency of some tasks. Second, the improvements you mention did NOT require the total redesign of the interface. For example, you write: Plus those who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find them easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to create a style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called a Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category using a dialog box. Well, AutoText could have been changed without, e.g., getting rid of Toolbars and menus! Similarly, greater ease of use in learning Styles did not require a radically revamped Word. It just required that the Styles feature itself be changed. I have nothing against MS adding new features to Word. But to destroy the basic user interface of Word and basic features and capabilities that millions of people have invested many years of work in, and replace it with another, is just wrong. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I've been using Office 2007 for over 18 months and at first, like the majority I hated it. I thought MS made a bad move, it was going to fail, and so on. I don't feel that way anymore. (Heh, you should have seen some of my "persuasive feedback" - the comments you've made are mild in comparison - especially when it came to removing the ease in toolbar/menu customization. g). But you know, even though I know how to customize the Ribbon it's really not necessary for me to customize it for my every day work. I have come up with alternate methods that fit my needs. For example I have several templates that have a customized QAT with commands for specific tasks and I load/unload them as global templates according the task at hand. (I still have a complaint about the inability to float toolbars....) After using the new interface I can now honestly see how it actually does improve work flow and I can perform tasks in Word that used to take a half hour or more in a few simple clicks. And it places capabilities that were once used exclusively by power users into the hands of everyone. Plus those who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find them easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to create a style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called a Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category using a dialog box. And there was difficulty remembering what you called them, now they are more visually oriented for insertion (and yes you can still assign keyboard shortcuts if you want). Form development is another example. The ability to easily create bound forms in Word has been a long standing request and that functionality is now available using Content Controls AND they automatically update without the need to add extra steps or use a macro. Content Controls also resolve another long standing request, to protect portions of a document for data entry without losing spell check and other functionality. Oh, and Styles have been lifted up and are easier for beginners to use. Even the basic beginner books are including how to use and modify styles. And I've noticed many of the beginning Word books are encouraging users to use formatted space between paragraphs instead of empty paragraphs due to the new defaults. (Thank goodness!!) BUT in order to fully see and understand these capabilities one can't be resistant to change. That was my stumbling block for several months. I wanted Word (and the other Office apps) to function as I was accustomed to them functioning for over the last 15 years. To use the new versions effectively it does require a bit of change, such as change how you may have previously accomplished a task but in the end it is faster and more efficient. The key is if you want to embrace the change or fight the change. If you fight it then you'll hate it and find it lacking. If you embrace it you may just find what I have found, that change can indeed be a "good thing". Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Larry" wrote in message ... Beth, You've opened my eyes. Now I understand the logic behind Microsoft's destruction of Word. By the same logic by which the menus were eliminated, since the "majority" of users don't create custom toolbars and custom menus, MS just did away with them as well. Or at least made it much harder to create and install them--I haven't figured this all out yet. In any case, the former beautiful feature by which you opened the Customize dialog box and could effortllessly create a new toolbar and give it a name put on it what you wanted seems to be gone. Hey, folks, the "majority" of users also never create a macro, never edit a macro, and never assign a custom keystroke to a macro or to a built-in command. So, by MS's logic of only keeping features that "most" users use, how come MS didn't eliminate VBA, eliminate macro recording, eliminate macros, eliminate the Macro dialog box, eliminate the VBA editing interface, and eliminate the Customize Keyboard dialog box??? The great thing about Word was that it had thousands of capabilities, and each user, depending on his interests, might only deal with a small part of them. So each person could in effect have his own "Word." But now we've moved away from such diversity toward a single uniformity. A single "majority rule" determines what will be in Word. Only what the 90 percent of users who are mediocre users will determine what is in Word. Everything that a more skilled and creative or just idiosyncratic user of Word might want to access is to be eliminated. That appears to be the logic. The only thing that saves the situation from total disaster is that MS has not yet been completely consistent in its program of destruction, so it has still left some "non-popular" features in place. Larry |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
Ok, Beth, I understand that you feel it's impossible to persuade me that
trashing and replacing Word's total interface and method of operation was for the Greater Good. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... Styles were merely an example that came to mind at the time. You know, Larry, just based on previous discussions I've had with you on topics of an even more simiplic nature I know there nothing I can say to you that will change your mind... Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton "Larry" wrote in message ... There are two separate issues here. You say that 2007 has improved features. I don't question that. My question is, was it necessary to remake the entire Word user interface to produce these new features? Let's say that Styles works better in 2007. Fine. Was it necessary to eliminate the toolbars and replace the file menu by the Microsoft Office button in order to improve the Styles feature? If you can't answer yes to that question and similar questions, then you have not justified the total remake of Word in 2007. This is not a matter of whether I and others are "closed-minded" to Word 2007's good features. It's a matter of whether the destruction of the total user interface of Word was needed to arrive at those good features. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I didn't say it took months, I was saying that I've spent over 18 months using Office 2007 and feel as though I have an "educated" opinion of things. I was very opinionated about a few things, just as most who have only scratched the surface, but then I realized I was viewing things as I viewed my switch from WP 5.0 to Word, or WordBasic to Visual Basic. It was then I decided to hold off forming an opinion on various matters until I gained more insight. There are still things I don't like but there were things I didn't like in the older versions as well. To be perfectly honest, I think I could type until my fingers are blue, as opposed to talking until I'm blue in the face (g), and it won't make a bit of difference. Those who want to view the change with an open mind will, those who don't, won't. It's like trying to tell convince a hard-core WP user of the benefits of Word. ;-) Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Larry" wrote in message ... Beth, What you're saying is that you had to spend months of your life completely re-learning and re-customizing Word to your needs, with the previous 15 years you had spent learning Word being lost, all for the benefit of some marginal improvements in the efficiency of some tasks. Second, the improvements you mention did NOT require the total redesign of the interface. For example, you write: Plus those who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find them easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to create a style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called a Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category using a dialog box. Well, AutoText could have been changed without, e.g., getting rid of Toolbars and menus! Similarly, greater ease of use in learning Styles did not require a radically revamped Word. It just required that the Styles feature itself be changed. I have nothing against MS adding new features to Word. But to destroy the basic user interface of Word and basic features and capabilities that millions of people have invested many years of work in, and replace it with another, is just wrong. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I've been using Office 2007 for over 18 months and at first, like the majority I hated it. I thought MS made a bad move, it was going to fail, and so on. I don't feel that way anymore. (Heh, you should have seen some of my "persuasive feedback" - the comments you've made are mild in comparison - especially when it came to removing the ease in toolbar/menu customization. g). But you know, even though I know how to customize the Ribbon it's really not necessary for me to customize it for my every day work. I have come up with alternate methods that fit my needs. For example I have several templates that have a customized QAT with commands for specific tasks and I load/unload them as global templates according the task at hand. (I still have a complaint about the inability to float toolbars....) After using the new interface I can now honestly see how it actually does improve work flow and I can perform tasks in Word that used to take a half hour or more in a few simple clicks. And it places capabilities that were once used exclusively by power users into the hands of everyone. Plus those who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find them easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to create a style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called a Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category using a dialog box. And there was difficulty remembering what you called them, now they are more visually oriented for insertion (and yes you can still assign keyboard shortcuts if you want). Form development is another example. The ability to easily create bound forms in Word has been a long standing request and that functionality is now available using Content Controls AND they automatically update without the need to add extra steps or use a macro. Content Controls also resolve another long standing request, to protect portions of a document for data entry without losing spell check and other functionality. Oh, and Styles have been lifted up and are easier for beginners to use. Even the basic beginner books are including how to use and modify styles. And I've noticed many of the beginning Word books are encouraging users to use formatted space between paragraphs instead of empty paragraphs due to the new defaults. (Thank goodness!!) BUT in order to fully see and understand these capabilities one can't be resistant to change. That was my stumbling block for several months. I wanted Word (and the other Office apps) to function as I was accustomed to them functioning for over the last 15 years. To use the new versions effectively it does require a bit of change, such as change how you may have previously accomplished a task but in the end it is faster and more efficient. The key is if you want to embrace the change or fight the change. If you fight it then you'll hate it and find it lacking. If you embrace it you may just find what I have found, that change can indeed be a "good thing". Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton Microsoft Office MVP Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out: http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ "Larry" wrote in message ... Beth, You've opened my eyes. Now I understand the logic behind Microsoft's destruction of Word. By the same logic by which the menus were eliminated, since the "majority" of users don't create custom toolbars and custom menus, MS just did away with them as well. Or at least made it much harder to create and install them--I haven't figured this all out yet. In any case, the former beautiful feature by which you opened the Customize dialog box and could effortllessly create a new toolbar and give it a name put on it what you wanted seems to be gone. Hey, folks, the "majority" of users also never create a macro, never edit a macro, and never assign a custom keystroke to a macro or to a built-in command. So, by MS's logic of only keeping features that "most" users use, how come MS didn't eliminate VBA, eliminate macro recording, eliminate macros, eliminate the Macro dialog box, eliminate the VBA editing interface, and eliminate the Customize Keyboard dialog box??? The great thing about Word was that it had thousands of capabilities, and each user, depending on his interests, might only deal with a small part of them. So each person could in effect have his own "Word." But now we've moved away from such diversity toward a single uniformity. A single "majority rule" determines what will be in Word. Only what the 90 percent of users who are mediocre users will determine what is in Word. Everything that a more skilled and creative or just idiosyncratic user of Word might want to access is to be eliminated. That appears to be the logic. The only thing that saves the situation from total disaster is that MS has not yet been completely consistent in its program of destruction, so it has still left some "non-popular" features in place. Larry |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
You don't necessarily need to go that far, you can use the Page Color and the font will automatically change to a white text, provided you are using theme colors, that is. When you say theme colors do you mean Windows theme or are there Word themes as well? |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
I think it's impossible to persuade you in general, Larry. ;-)
If you want the truth, when I saw the new UI you were one of the first people that came to mind. I thought, oh my, when Larry sees this he'll have a heart attack. I'm thankful to see you've taken a look at it and are still around. grin Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton "Larry" wrote in message ... Ok, Beth, I understand that you feel it's impossible to persuade me that trashing and replacing Word's total interface and method of operation was for the Greater Good. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... Styles were merely an example that came to mind at the time. You know, Larry, just based on previous discussions I've had with you on topics of an even more simiplic nature I know there nothing I can say to you that will change your mind... |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
LOL.
I'm laughing, but I'm miserable. :-) .... And still in a state of amazement and fury at what MS has done. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I think it's impossible to persuade you in general, Larry. ;-) If you want the truth, when I saw the new UI you were one of the first people that came to mind. I thought, oh my, when Larry sees this he'll have a heart attack. I'm thankful to see you've taken a look at it and are still around. grin Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton "Larry" wrote in message ... Ok, Beth, I understand that you feel it's impossible to persuade me that trashing and replacing Word's total interface and method of operation was for the Greater Good. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... Styles were merely an example that came to mind at the time. You know, Larry, just based on previous discussions I've had with you on topics of an even more simiplic nature I know there nothing I can say to you that will change your mind... |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
Also, if memory serves correctly, years ago Beth helped me with macros to prevent the vertical and horizonal scroll bars from ever appearing unless I wanted them (and helped me with a lot of other things as well). It was a bit of a trick. Word just wanted those ugly scroll bars to keep popping up. Only serious customization could get around that. But once we had it, it was never an issue again. I have simple keystrokes to toggle the scrollbars when I want them, not when Microsoft wants them. My aim in that case and generally has been to keep all unnecessary clutter out of the Word window. So I got rid of all toolbar buttons that I don't use, and replaced the Standard and Formatting toolbars with one simplified toolbar. I never display the Ruler except when I need it. Also, the blue background screen is "cooler," easier on the eyes. So the whole look is simple and pleasing to the eye. To me, the way Word looks when it opens in its default state is an incredible eyesore. The other thing for me is to have an integrated environment, where I do things with the minimum of keystrokes or mouseclicks. For example, I developed a single key command (Num1) to toggle the Blue background off and on. I have a single key command (Num2) which not only toggles the capitalization of a word, but if there's a selection going up to the start of a word, it cuts the selection and toggles the capitalization of the first letter of the word immediately following the selection. I have three custom menus with many macros I use constantly, every one of those macros takes just two keystrokes, Alt+Letter, Letter. I'm still not sure if it's posible to replicate something like that in 2007. Things that take two steps in the older versions (even without my customizations), take three or more steps in 2007, things that take one step in the older versions (like opening the Window menu via keystroke) take two steps in 2007. This is totally unacceptable. The whole point is that things that you do often be done with the minimum of keystrokes. So my approach is to make Word's look as simple as possible, and Word's operation as simple as possible. Word 2007 is not only the opposite of that, it basically makes it impossible to customize around it. It imposes so much more on you (that incredibly complicated, hyperactive Ribbon) and makes it impossible to escape it. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I think it's impossible to persuade you in general, Larry. ;-) If you want the truth, when I saw the new UI you were one of the first people that came to mind. I thought, oh my, when Larry sees this he'll have a heart attack. I'm thankful to see you've taken a look at it and are still around. grin Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton "Larry" wrote in message ... Ok, Beth, I understand that you feel it's impossible to persuade me that trashing and replacing Word's total interface and method of operation was for the Greater Good. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... Styles were merely an example that came to mind at the time. You know, Larry, just based on previous discussions I've had with you on topics of an even more simiplic nature I know there nothing I can say to you that will change your mind... |
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Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"
But can you accept that the majority of users do NOT use Word the way you
do? The vast majority of them would never think of going to the trouble to customize Word this way even if they were told how, and most have no desire to use Word this way. I find that most users are not interested in keyboard shortcuts at all. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Larry" wrote in message ... Also, if memory serves correctly, years ago Beth helped me with macros to prevent the vertical and horizonal scroll bars from ever appearing unless I wanted them (and helped me with a lot of other things as well). It was a bit of a trick. Word just wanted those ugly scroll bars to keep popping up. Only serious customization could get around that. But once we had it, it was never an issue again. I have simple keystrokes to toggle the scrollbars when I want them, not when Microsoft wants them. My aim in that case and generally has been to keep all unnecessary clutter out of the Word window. So I got rid of all toolbar buttons that I don't use, and replaced the Standard and Formatting toolbars with one simplified toolbar. I never display the Ruler except when I need it. Also, the blue background screen is "cooler," easier on the eyes. So the whole look is simple and pleasing to the eye. To me, the way Word looks when it opens in its default state is an incredible eyesore. The other thing for me is to have an integrated environment, where I do things with the minimum of keystrokes or mouseclicks. For example, I developed a single key command (Num1) to toggle the Blue background off and on. I have a single key command (Num2) which not only toggles the capitalization of a word, but if there's a selection going up to the start of a word, it cuts the selection and toggles the capitalization of the first letter of the word immediately following the selection. I have three custom menus with many macros I use constantly, every one of those macros takes just two keystrokes, Alt+Letter, Letter. I'm still not sure if it's posible to replicate something like that in 2007. Things that take two steps in the older versions (even without my customizations), take three or more steps in 2007, things that take one step in the older versions (like opening the Window menu via keystroke) take two steps in 2007. This is totally unacceptable. The whole point is that things that you do often be done with the minimum of keystrokes. So my approach is to make Word's look as simple as possible, and Word's operation as simple as possible. Word 2007 is not only the opposite of that, it basically makes it impossible to customize around it. It imposes so much more on you (that incredibly complicated, hyperactive Ribbon) and makes it impossible to escape it. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... I think it's impossible to persuade you in general, Larry. ;-) If you want the truth, when I saw the new UI you were one of the first people that came to mind. I thought, oh my, when Larry sees this he'll have a heart attack. I'm thankful to see you've taken a look at it and are still around. grin Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for assistance by email can not be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beth Melton "Larry" wrote in message ... Ok, Beth, I understand that you feel it's impossible to persuade me that trashing and replacing Word's total interface and method of operation was for the Greater Good. "Beth Melton" wrote in message ... Styles were merely an example that came to mind at the time. You know, Larry, just based on previous discussions I've had with you on topics of an even more simiplic nature I know there nothing I can say to you that will change your mind... |
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