Outgoing email blocked

I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from anything
other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send email using a
domain hosted elsewhere.

I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a way
around it?

If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and would
be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
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I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from anything
other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send email using a
domain hosted elsewhere.

I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a way
around it?

If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and
would be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions



It depends on the server he wants to use. Some servers allow use of an SMTP
server on a different port than 25. You would have to check with the
administration of the server he wants to use.

Another way is to set the account he wants to use for the SMTP server for
AOL. As long as the email address and ReplyTo address are what he wants, he
should be okay. Even if AOL insists on their own email address, using his
preferred sever for the ReplyTo should ensure that the replies come to the
server he wishes.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

Frank,

Thanks.

You say Another way is to set the account he wants to use for the SMTP
server for AOL. As long as the email address and ReplyTo address are what
he wants, he should be okay. Even if AOL insists on their own email
address, using his preferred sever for the ReplyTo should ensure that the
replies come to the server he wishes. But would that work only with an
AOL account? I have tried setting the SMTP to both the BT and the email
host server and both have failed so this doesn't seem possible. My client's
ISP is BT so how would OE need to be configured so that he may send email
from his domain hosted elsewhere please?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
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"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
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I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from anything
other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send email using a
domain hosted elsewhere.

I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a way
around it?

If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and
would be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions



It depends on the server he wants to use. Some servers allow use of an
SMTP server on a different port than 25. You would have to check with the
administration of the server he wants to use.

Another way is to set the account he wants to use for the SMTP server for
AOL. As long as the email address and ReplyTo address are what he wants,
he should be okay. Even if AOL insists on their own email address, using
his preferred sever for the ReplyTo should ensure that the replies come to
the server he wishes.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

Hi Bill,

My home ISP will only let me send mail using their SMPT.

However by setting the USER information on the General tab in the Accounts
(properties) dialog window, I can have the Reply To in the outgoing email
display my Work ISP address. Click the (?) top right hand corner on the
General tab for more info of the different fields for USER information.

In other words, when I send email from home or work and someone replies, the
replies go to my Work email address.

Ken

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
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| I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from anything
| other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send email using a
| domain hosted elsewhere.
|
| I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a way
| around it?
|
| If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and
would
| be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.
|
| Thanks.
|
| Bill Ridgeway
| Computer Solutions
|
|

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:20:07 -0400, Ken wrote:

My home ISP will only let me send mail using their SMPT.

As does mine.

However by setting the USER information on the General tab in the Accounts
(properties) dialog window, I can have the Reply To in the outgoing email
display my Work ISP address. Click the (?) top right hand corner on the
General tab for more info of the different fields for USER information.

I have not needed that work around. I have used the following mail
servers, in spite of the port 25 block:

smtp.aol.com - port 587 w/STARTTLS
smtp.aim.com - port 587 w/STARTTLS
smtp.gmail.com - port 465 w/SSL
smtp.gmail.com - port 587 w/STARTTLS
smtp.gmx.net - port 587 w/STARTLS
smtp.myrealbox.com - port 465 w/SSL
smtp.mail.yahoo.com - port 587 w/o STARTTLS
smtp.mail.yahoo.co.jp - port 587 w/o STARTTLS

I am sure that there are other email service providers using either port
465, or port 587. If not those two ports, some other port than port 25.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

It has been suggested that one way around this problem is to use an email
relay server. I don't know how these work. Presumably you send email to
them and they send it on. My question is, do recipients see the source as
being the ISP domain ), my email host server )
or the email relay server )?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from anything
other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send email using a
domain hosted elsewhere.

I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a way
around it?

If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and
would be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
Frank,

Thanks.

You say Another way is to set the account he wants to use for the SMTP
server for AOL. As long as the email address and ReplyTo address are what
he wants, he should be okay. Even if AOL insists on their own email
address, using his preferred sever for the ReplyTo should ensure that the
replies come to the server he wishes. But would that work only with an
AOL account? I have tried setting the SMTP to both the BT and the email
host server and both have failed so this doesn't seem possible. My
client's ISP is BT so how would OE need to be configured so that he may
send email from his domain hosted elsewhere please?


It should work as long as the SMTP server is set to the ISP you are
connected through. It may be necessary to use the email address at that
ISP, but it should ignore the ReplyTo. If it doesn't, the ISP is doing
something wrong.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

They'll see what's in the From field, but a reply will still go to ReplyTo.
I can see the problem here in that they might :correct: their Address Book.
On the other hand, with OE if you have something tin the Name field of the
account then they won't see the email address.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
It has been suggested that one way around this problem is to use an email
relay server. I don't know how these work. Presumably you send email to
them and they send it on. My question is, do recipients see the source as
being the ISP domain ), my email host server
) or the email relay server )?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from anything
other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send email using a
domain hosted elsewhere.

I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a way
around it?

If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and
would be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:47:41 +0100, Bill Ridgeway wrote:

It has been suggested that one way around this problem is to use an email
relay server. I don't know how these work. Presumably you send email to
them and they send it on. My question is, do recipients see the source as
being the ISP domain ), my email host server )
or the email relay server )?

If your client has a domain hosted elsewhere, see if that hosting
provider offers an alternate Message Submission port. RFC defined port
587 for Message Submission. Some email providers offer access through
port 465 with SSL. If his hosting provider does that, have your client
use the provider's designated Message Submission port. If they don't,
have him request that they start doing so.

I know of two free email service providers, GMail, and Yahoo! Mail,
which allow you to configure their SMTP servers so a user can send email
from a different domain through the servers. Both the Sender, and the
Reply-To email addresses can be set to anything other than the server
domain; though both do reveal the underlying service domain email
address, the recipient would have to go out of his way to read the full
message headers. For a UK users, the Yahoo! Mail account is still free
(rather, requires a subscription to "Yahoo! Delivers"); in the
"yahoo.co.uk" domain.

For Gmail, SMTP service can be configured on port 465 with SSL.
For Yahoo! Mail (UK), SMTP service can be configured on port 587; no
encryption required.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Frank,

Sorry but I've lost you.

The situation is my Client has an account with BT which blocks email being
sent out using his email address AND so that
recipients see emails as having been received from ?
The options seems to be -

1. Do nothing - having a discrete domain is not a good option
2. Change ISP - not a viable option
3. Subscribe to a relay server - will recipients see the email as coming
from
4. Any other way?

No.3 may be a runner but only if its satisfies both element of the
requirement.
No.4 who knows what anyone may come up with

Is that summary more -or-less correct?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote in message
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They'll see what's in the From field, but a reply will still go to
ReplyTo. I can see the problem here in that they might :correct: their
Address Book. On the other hand, with OE if you have something tin the
Name field of the account then they won't see the email address.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
It has been suggested that one way around this problem is to use an email
relay server. I don't know how these work. Presumably you send email to
them and they send it on. My question is, do recipients see the source
as being the ISP domain ), my email host server
) or the email relay server )?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Bill Ridgeway" wrote in message
...
I have a Client whose ISP (BT Connect) blocks sending email from
anything other than its own domain. He would like to be able to send
email using a domain hosted elsewhere.

I'm sure others have come across this problem but has anyone found a way
around it?

If this is not the appropriate NG for such an enquiry I apologise and
would be grateful if someone can suggest a more appropriate NG.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions