OE messages disappear again!

I had not yet finished dealing with Steve Cochran, who has been trying to
help me with DBxpress...and now the current messages have disappeared!
However, this time they are in the recycle bin...I had carefully saved all
the pertinent notes on this ng to handle this...but they were in the emails
that disappeared.
So, I would be grateful for the info on how to suck those back from the
recycle bin into email.
And ... what could be wrong that this keeps happening?

If you open the Recyle Bin, you will find the files now have an extension of
BAK. If you select all the BAK files in the Recycle Bin (use the Ctrl while
selecting) then click Restore, they will be copied to the default message
store folder but as BAK files.

If you then use Windows Explorer to navigate to the message store folder
(and only do this with Outlook Express closed) you will now find a mix of
BAK and DBX files. What you would now need to do (and this is easy from a
command window if you are familiar with old style DOS commands, but if not
you can use Explorer) is first, select all of the DBX files that are there
(again holding the Ctrl key while selecting) and if you're brave, delete
them. If you're not that brave, then Move them to a new folder you create.
That will leave only BAK files in the message store folder (along with any
..log files) and you can now rename the BAK files with a DBX extension. Be
careful to only change the extension and do not tamper with any part of the
original name, only the extension.

When you complete this, you can again open Outlook Express and your messages
that were in the BAK files will appear.

Now, why does this happen. I suspect that it's because you are either
terminating Outlook Express by using Task Manager or you are shutting down
the computer after getting a notice that a compacting operation is about to
begin. Good luck and make sure you do things exactly as outlined or you
will not have any luck with the recovery.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


wrote in message
nk.net...
I had not yet finished dealing with Steve Cochran, who has been trying to
help me with DBxpress...and now the current messages have disappeared!
However, this time they are in the recycle bin...I had carefully saved all
the pertinent notes on this ng to handle this...but they were in the
emails that disappeared.
So, I would be grateful for the info on how to suck those back from the
recycle bin into email.
And ... what could be wrong that this keeps happening?

ok, I will print this out.
your theory as to why this happens, while logical, is NOT correct. none of
those events have happened.
as I said w/ my original post of 7-10 days ago, I read this ng for hours
before I posted anything, and I learned about compacting only when offline,
etc. and that is what I have been doing and have taught to all my buddies,
who know think (wrongly) that I know about computers.
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
If you open the Recyle Bin, you will find the files now have an extension
of BAK. If you select all the BAK files in the Recycle Bin (use the Ctrl
while selecting) then click Restore, they will be copied to the default
message store folder but as BAK files.

If you then use Windows Explorer to navigate to the message store folder
(and only do this with Outlook Express closed) you will now find a mix of
BAK and DBX files. What you would now need to do (and this is easy from a
command window if you are familiar with old style DOS commands, but if not
you can use Explorer) is first, select all of the DBX files that are there
(again holding the Ctrl key while selecting) and if you're brave, delete
them. If you're not that brave, then Move them to a new folder you
create. That will leave only BAK files in the message store folder (along
with any .log files) and you can now rename the BAK files with a DBX
extension. Be careful to only change the extension and do not tamper with
any part of the original name, only the extension.

When you complete this, you can again open Outlook Express and your
messages that were in the BAK files will appear.

Now, why does this happen. I suspect that it's because you are either
terminating Outlook Express by using Task Manager or you are shutting down
the computer after getting a notice that a compacting operation is about
to begin. Good luck and make sure you do things exactly as outlined or
you will not have any luck with the recovery.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


wrote in message
nk.net...
I had not yet finished dealing with Steve Cochran, who has been trying to
help me with DBxpress...and now the current messages have disappeared!
However, this time they are in the recycle bin...I had carefully saved
all the pertinent notes on this ng to handle this...but they were in the
emails that disappeared.
So, I would be grateful for the info on how to suck those back from the
recycle bin into email.
And ... what could be wrong that this keeps happening?

I am EXTREMELY pleased to say that I was able to follow your directions
(eventually, after some starts and stops) and accomplish the task!
Thank you so much. I envy your knowledge and your patience!
Now, I have to get back those ones I am trying to get with DBXpress. I
have not yet been able to make that work! Now that I have one
successful restore under my belt, I will have confidence to try again
with that!
Thank you again!


wrote:
ok, I will print this out.
your theory as to why this happens, while logical, is NOT correct. none of
those events have happened.
as I said w/ my original post of 7-10 days ago, I read this ng for hours
before I posted anything, and I learned about compacting only when offline,
etc. and that is what I have been doing and have taught to all my buddies,
who know think (wrongly) that I know about computers.
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
If you open the Recyle Bin, you will find the files now have an extension
of BAK. If you select all the BAK files in the Recycle Bin (use the Ctrl
while selecting) then click Restore, they will be copied to the default
message store folder but as BAK files.

If you then use Windows Explorer to navigate to the message store folder
(and only do this with Outlook Express closed) you will now find a mix of
BAK and DBX files. What you would now need to do (and this is easy from a
command window if you are familiar with old style DOS commands, but if not
you can use Explorer) is first, select all of the DBX files that are there
(again holding the Ctrl key while selecting) and if you're brave, delete
them. If you're not that brave, then Move them to a new folder you
create. That will leave only BAK files in the message store folder (along
with any .log files) and you can now rename the BAK files with a DBX
extension. Be careful to only change the extension and do not tamper with
any part of the original name, only the extension.

When you complete this, you can again open Outlook Express and your
messages that were in the BAK files will appear.

Now, why does this happen. I suspect that it's because you are either
terminating Outlook Express by using Task Manager or you are shutting down
the computer after getting a notice that a compacting operation is about
to begin. Good luck and make sure you do things exactly as outlined or
you will not have any luck with the recovery.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


wrote in message
nk.net...
I had not yet finished dealing with Steve Cochran, who has been trying to
help me with DBxpress...and now the current messages have disappeared!
However, this time they are in the recycle bin...I had carefully saved
all the pertinent notes on this ng to handle this...but they were in the
emails that disappeared.
So, I would be grateful for the info on how to suck those back from the
recycle bin into email.
And ... what could be wrong that this keeps happening?

Run the extract from disk feature of DBXpress. That will get whatever is
there on the disk clusters.

steve

wrote in message
oups.com...
I am EXTREMELY pleased to say that I was able to follow your directions
(eventually, after some starts and stops) and accomplish the task!
Thank you so much. I envy your knowledge and your patience!
Now, I have to get back those ones I am trying to get with DBXpress. I
have not yet been able to make that work! Now that I have one
successful restore under my belt, I will have confidence to try again
with that!
Thank you again!


wrote:
ok, I will print this out.
your theory as to why this happens, while logical, is NOT correct. none
of
those events have happened.
as I said w/ my original post of 7-10 days ago, I read this ng for hours
before I posted anything, and I learned about compacting only when
offline,
etc. and that is what I have been doing and have taught to all my
buddies,
who know think (wrongly) that I know about computers.
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
If you open the Recyle Bin, you will find the files now have an
extension
of BAK. If you select all the BAK files in the Recycle Bin (use the
Ctrl
while selecting) then click Restore, they will be copied to the default
message store folder but as BAK files.

If you then use Windows Explorer to navigate to the message store
folder
(and only do this with Outlook Express closed) you will now find a mix
of
BAK and DBX files. What you would now need to do (and this is easy
from a
command window if you are familiar with old style DOS commands, but if
not
you can use Explorer) is first, select all of the DBX files that are
there
(again holding the Ctrl key while selecting) and if you're brave,
delete
them. If you're not that brave, then Move them to a new folder you
create. That will leave only BAK files in the message store folder
(along
with any .log files) and you can now rename the BAK files with a DBX
extension. Be careful to only change the extension and do not tamper
with
any part of the original name, only the extension.

When you complete this, you can again open Outlook Express and your
messages that were in the BAK files will appear.

Now, why does this happen. I suspect that it's because you are either
terminating Outlook Express by using Task Manager or you are shutting
down
the computer after getting a notice that a compacting operation is
about
to begin. Good luck and make sure you do things exactly as outlined or
you will not have any luck with the recovery.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


wrote in message
nk.net...
I had not yet finished dealing with Steve Cochran, who has been trying
to
help me with DBxpress...and now the current messages have disappeared!
However, this time they are in the recycle bin...I had carefully saved
all the pertinent notes on this ng to handle this...but they were in
the
emails that disappeared.
So, I would be grateful for the info on how to suck those back from
the
recycle bin into email.
And ... what could be wrong that this keeps happening?

Glad to hear it worked G and thanks for the feedback.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express/Windows Mail
Please reply to newsgroup only.
Please provide feedback so that others may be helped.

wrote in message
oups.com...
I am EXTREMELY pleased to say that I was able to follow your directions
(eventually, after some starts and stops) and accomplish the task!
Thank you so much. I envy your knowledge and your patience!
Now, I have to get back those ones I am trying to get with DBXpress. I
have not yet been able to make that work! Now that I have one
successful restore under my belt, I will have confidence to try again
with that!
Thank you again!


wrote:
ok, I will print this out.
your theory as to why this happens, while logical, is NOT correct. none
of
those events have happened.
as I said w/ my original post of 7-10 days ago, I read this ng for hours
before I posted anything, and I learned about compacting only when
offline,
etc. and that is what I have been doing and have taught to all my
buddies,
who know think (wrongly) that I know about computers.
"Jim Pickering" wrote in message
...
If you open the Recyle Bin, you will find the files now have an
extension
of BAK. If you select all the BAK files in the Recycle Bin (use the
Ctrl
while selecting) then click Restore, they will be copied to the default
message store folder but as BAK files.

If you then use Windows Explorer to navigate to the message store
folder
(and only do this with Outlook Express closed) you will now find a mix
of
BAK and DBX files. What you would now need to do (and this is easy
from a
command window if you are familiar with old style DOS commands, but if
not
you can use Explorer) is first, select all of the DBX files that are
there
(again holding the Ctrl key while selecting) and if you're brave,
delete
them. If you're not that brave, then Move them to a new folder you
create. That will leave only BAK files in the message store folder
(along
with any .log files) and you can now rename the BAK files with a DBX
extension. Be careful to only change the extension and do not tamper
with
any part of the original name, only the extension.

When you complete this, you can again open Outlook Express and your
messages that were in the BAK files will appear.

Now, why does this happen. I suspect that it's because you are either
terminating Outlook Express by using Task Manager or you are shutting
down
the computer after getting a notice that a compacting operation is
about
to begin. Good luck and make sure you do things exactly as outlined or
you will not have any luck with the recovery.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.


wrote in message
nk.net...
I had not yet finished dealing with Steve Cochran, who has been trying
to
help me with DBxpress...and now the current messages have disappeared!
However, this time they are in the recycle bin...I had carefully saved
all the pertinent notes on this ng to handle this...but they were in
the
emails that disappeared.
So, I would be grateful for the info on how to suck those back from
the
recycle bin into email.
And ... what could be wrong that this keeps happening?