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A2007 - OLE vs. Attachements
Banana Banana@Republic wrote in news:4AD4E173.9020701@Republic:
It looks like Microsoft formed the Microsoft.Public newsgroups in 1994, which is before any reliable web forum software even existed and the only other good place was AOL chatroom (?!) I would say that a good news reader and a reliable newsfeed are still vastly superior to any web-based discussion forum I've ever encountered. Maybe the approach seeni in Google Wave will change that, but we're a long way from that. -- David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/ usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/ |
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:22:11 -0700, Banana Banana@Republic wrote:
It looks like Microsoft formed the Microsoft.Public newsgroups in 1994, which is before any reliable web forum software even existed and the only other good place was AOL chatroom (?!) .... or CompuServe, where I was a Sysop before I started posting here... -- John W. Vinson [MVP] |
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From what I've seen, this profane name calling by Steve represents a new low.
What terrible behavior! Any regular reader knows that Gina's accuracy, expertise and helpfulness have been established, beyond reproach. Not to mention the ultimate in restraint is responding to such junk. So, now, beyond the other issues, he has established himself who commits profane name calling in the forum against such people. |
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David,
Thanks for the insight. I appreciate it however I don't need to have a clue about all of the technology.That's your world! I'm simply an every day schlub of a USER who has been asked to follow RULES. Now if the rules can't be enforced then who is it that REALLY doesn't have a clue? The rules might as well be thrown out if they can't be enforced. Since they can't be enforced we have people creating websites - bordering on clinical obsessiveness - that wage some kind of creepy info-attack on another person just because they've "broken" these un-enforceable rules! I guess I could figure out how to use the killfile but why should I? If the rules are clear and users agree to them then MS should find a way to enforce them. THAT is my point. Chasing after Steve at every post - particularly if he's merely providing info - is in equal violation of the rules. 2 wrongs don't = 1 right. I think I learned that in 1st grade! -- www.Marzetti.com "David W. Fenton" wrote: =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obkx1dGU=?= wrote in : it seems to me that the *bigger* problem is poor planning. If I were to initiate a fine forum like this (and it truly is fine) then I'd make sure that I could actually ENFORCE the Rules of Conduct that people have been asked to respect! Otherwise, why bother with any rules at all? You really have no clue about Usenet, then. Microsoft created the newsgroups. That means they created the charter for the newsgroups. Repeated violation of the terms of a newsgroup's charter can be grounds for losing your account with an ISP, or the news provider. This is not enforced as much as it once was, partly because many ISPs ignore Usenet (neglecting their news server, or outsourcing it, or providing none at all), and no longer employ people who understand the rules of Usenet (people like yourself, for instance). One aspect of the dropping of news servers by ISPs is that many individuals now go to third-party news providers, either paid or free, and that makes them *more* subject to discipline, since their account is not with an ISP for general purposes including Usenet, but it is with a Usenet provider for the sold purpose of using the newsgroups. Thus, abuse of the terms of a newsgroup can easily be punished by these 3rd-party news providers banning your account. In this case, I think you have a point that people attacked Steve for behavior he hasn't exhibited in this particular thread. That's wrong, but hardly inexplicable. Steve has made his bed and he has to lie in it. That means he's going to get treated unfairly in some cases, but given that he has no respect for the groups he trolls for work in, I shed no tears for him. On the other hand, I wish there was more encouragement of his "good" posts (like the one in this thread), since that might serve to nudge him into behaving properly, such that he posted more helpful responses and fewer solicitations. So, yes, it's unfortunate that this happened, but it was initiated by someone who has been in my killfile for a long time (and will remain there for the foreseeable future), so that should tell you something right there. -- David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/ usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/ |
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Fred wrote:
From what I've seen, this profane name calling by Steve represents a new low. It's definitely a low point, but it's not a new low. This behavior has occured many times over the years and is part of the reason for the common response to his disregard of community standards. -- Marsh MVP [MS Access] |
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=?Utf-8?B?Sm9obkx1dGU=?= wrote
in : I'm simply an every day schlub of a USER who has been asked to follow RULES. Now if the rules can't be enforced then who is it that REALLY doesn't have a clue? You're obviously a complete moron and proud of it. The result of demonstrating that you don't give a rat's ass about learning about the communities in which your are posting means that that I will never read any of your posts ever again, nor offer you any comments or assistance. Your probably don't care, of course, because if you did, you wouldn't have posted such stupid statements in the first place. Buh-Bye! PLONK -- David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/ usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/ |
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"Fred" schreef in bericht ... From what I've seen, this profane name calling by Steve represents a new low. What terrible behavior! Nothing new low... just repeating low. EVERYTHING that is stated at http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html is simply sad but true and can be checked. Loaded with links to previous posts to 'prove' what is stated. Sad but true!! No false accusations there.. . This advertising of $teve is going on and on and on and on. If $teve stops advertising the website will be gone (also stated there at the 'Website stats' page) It's as simple as that. Arno R |
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"JohnLute" wrote in message
... I don't see it, either. So in this instance one could argue that StopThis Advertising is in violation of harrassment. This is Usenet. Simply KF StopThisAdvertising, job done. |
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"Steve" wrote in message
m... The second sentence in the so-called Rules of Conduct states, "Please avoid personal attacks, slurs, and profanity in your interactions." You mean like calling someone a "Bitch"? Hardly professional behaviour is it $teve? You've already run out of feet to shoot yourself in, what next? Prospective "clients" are taking note, of that I have no doubt. |
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A2007 - OLE vs. Attachements
David W. Fenton wrote:
You're obviously a complete moron and proud of it. Well, I'm not a COMPLETE moron. More accurately I'm a half-wit. Miraculously, I've managed to maintain the half that works despite enduring your glorifying pontifications about how much you know and how little I don't. The result of demonstrating that you don't give a rat's ass about learning about the communities in which your are posting means that that I will never read any of your posts ever again, nor offer you any comments or assistance. If it helps you to sleep better at night... Your probably don't care, of course, because if you did, you wouldn't have posted such stupid statements in the first place. No. I don't care what you think of me. At least the half of my wit that I use doesn't. Is there a reason why I should? Buh-Bye! Very original... |
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