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  #1  
Old June 11th, 2005, 11:06 AM
PZ Straube
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Default Unable to have multiple queries feeding a single report

Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error message 3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report. In the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields, I can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple sources of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.

  #2  
Old June 11th, 2005, 03:13 PM
Duane Hookom
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I believe your basic issue is un-normalized tables. It looks like you are
storing data values in field names. This causes too many fields.

You may be able to work around this by using subreports for some of your
tables/fields.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--

"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too
many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error message
3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report. In
the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields, I
can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple sources
of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't
connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same
query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table
called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these
two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.



  #3  
Old June 11th, 2005, 05:36 PM
Destin Richter
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PZ, it just sounds like bad query design. Why can't the report be based on a
single query? If the database is small, tell me what your goal is and send
over a copy stripped of the most of the data.

Destin Richter


"PZ Straube" wrote:

Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error message 3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report. In the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields, I can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple sources of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.

  #4  
Old June 12th, 2005, 10:45 AM
PZ Straube
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Default

Duane,

Thanks for your response. I appreciate you taking the time to help me.

Please forgive my ignorance but I'm not sure what you mean by "storing data
values in field names".

Regarding "un-normalized tables", thanks for mentioning that to me because
now that I'm really getting into Access, I better be thinking of that
constantly or things will be even more difficult. I have tables containing
data on thousands of mutual funds (I'm a consultant to corporate retirement
plans). Each quarter, I obtain updated data and it goes into a new table.
In each table, each record pertains to one specific mutual fund and there are
aboout 250 unique pieces of data for each mutual fund (e.g., rate of return,
risk, style, market capm etc.). My queries will pick up data from the
current quarter's table plus one or more of the prior quaterly tables then do
some calculations related to the scoring for each fund.

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have three queries that do calculations
with the last one feeding my reports. I think my problem might be that the
last query contains a ton of calculations plus data directly from the main
table that I hit the limit. I have now put a fourth query in place using
only the calculations used in the reports and everything is fine. Sorry to
have bothered you with something I should have figured out on my own before
posting it.

"Duane Hookom" wrote:

I believe your basic issue is un-normalized tables. It looks like you are
storing data values in field names. This causes too many fields.

You may be able to work around this by using subreports for some of your
tables/fields.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--

"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too
many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error message
3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report. In
the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields, I
can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple sources
of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't
connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same
query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table
called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these
two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.




  #5  
Old June 12th, 2005, 10:54 AM
PZ Straube
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Destin,
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
As I mentioned to Duane, I screwed up - I didn't think this through
carefully. I have now put another query on top of the one that was
previously feeding data to my reports and in this new query, I only included
the fields needed for the reports, not some of the supporting fields contain
preliminary calculations, and that gives me room to add the fields I couldn't
before - whcih is what led em to think I needed a second query to feed the
report.
Sorry to have bothered everyone with this rookie mistake.

If you don't mind me asking, what happens when you have a report containing
more than the maximum number of fields? What is the key point when using two
queries to feed a report to make sure it works?
Thanks again.

"Destin Richter" wrote:

PZ, it just sounds like bad query design. Why can't the report be based on a
single query? If the database is small, tell me what your goal is and send
over a copy stripped of the most of the data.

Destin Richter


"PZ Straube" wrote:

Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error message 3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report. In the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields, I can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple sources of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.

  #6  
Old June 12th, 2005, 04:27 PM
John Spencer (MVP)
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A report can only be based on a single query.
A report can contain sub-reports.
A query can contain up to 255 columns (fields, calculated fields) and therefore
a report can have a maximum of 255 fields.

Are you using the report wizard to build your report? If so, it has a much
lower limit than if you design the report yourself. I don't know what the limit is.

PZ Straube wrote:

Destin,
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
As I mentioned to Duane, I screwed up - I didn't think this through
carefully. I have now put another query on top of the one that was
previously feeding data to my reports and in this new query, I only included
the fields needed for the reports, not some of the supporting fields contain
preliminary calculations, and that gives me room to add the fields I couldn't
before - whcih is what led em to think I needed a second query to feed the
report.
Sorry to have bothered everyone with this rookie mistake.

If you don't mind me asking, what happens when you have a report containing
more than the maximum number of fields? What is the key point when using two
queries to feed a report to make sure it works?
Thanks again.

"Destin Richter" wrote:

PZ, it just sounds like bad query design. Why can't the report be based on a
single query? If the database is small, tell me what your goal is and send
over a copy stripped of the most of the data.

Destin Richter


"PZ Straube" wrote:

Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error message 3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report. In the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields, I can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple sources of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.

  #7  
Old June 12th, 2005, 08:39 PM
PZ Straube
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John,
Thank you as always for your help.
I was not aware that the Report Wizard has limitations. That might explain
a portion of my problem. Interesting.
I'll do a search and see if having subreports increases the number of fields
beyond 255.
Thanks again.

"John Spencer (MVP)" wrote:

A report can only be based on a single query.
A report can contain sub-reports.
A query can contain up to 255 columns (fields, calculated fields) and therefore
a report can have a maximum of 255 fields.

Are you using the report wizard to build your report? If so, it has a much
lower limit than if you design the report yourself. I don't know what the limit is.

PZ Straube wrote:

Destin,
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
As I mentioned to Duane, I screwed up - I didn't think this through
carefully. I have now put another query on top of the one that was
previously feeding data to my reports and in this new query, I only included
the fields needed for the reports, not some of the supporting fields contain
preliminary calculations, and that gives me room to add the fields I couldn't
before - whcih is what led em to think I needed a second query to feed the
report.
Sorry to have bothered everyone with this rookie mistake.

If you don't mind me asking, what happens when you have a report containing
more than the maximum number of fields? What is the key point when using two
queries to feed a report to make sure it works?
Thanks again.

"Destin Richter" wrote:

PZ, it just sounds like bad query design. Why can't the report be based on a
single query? If the database is small, tell me what your goal is and send
over a copy stripped of the most of the data.

Destin Richter


"PZ Straube" wrote:

Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error message 3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report. In the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields, I can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple sources of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.


  #8  
Old June 13th, 2005, 05:44 AM
Duane Hookom
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I was mis-reading your query names as field names.
250 pieces of information about a single fund seems like a lot. If there
were multiple fields for "dates" than I would consider this un-normalized.
Since I don't know how all or your fields are used, it is just a guess that
your tables might be un-normalized.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Duane,

Thanks for your response. I appreciate you taking the time to help me.

Please forgive my ignorance but I'm not sure what you mean by "storing
data
values in field names".

Regarding "un-normalized tables", thanks for mentioning that to me because
now that I'm really getting into Access, I better be thinking of that
constantly or things will be even more difficult. I have tables
containing
data on thousands of mutual funds (I'm a consultant to corporate
retirement
plans). Each quarter, I obtain updated data and it goes into a new table.
In each table, each record pertains to one specific mutual fund and there
are
aboout 250 unique pieces of data for each mutual fund (e.g., rate of
return,
risk, style, market capm etc.). My queries will pick up data from the
current quarter's table plus one or more of the prior quaterly tables then
do
some calculations related to the scoring for each fund.

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have three queries that do
calculations
with the last one feeding my reports. I think my problem might be that the
last query contains a ton of calculations plus data directly from the main
table that I hit the limit. I have now put a fourth query in place using
only the calculations used in the reports and everything is fine. Sorry
to
have bothered you with something I should have figured out on my own
before
posting it.

"Duane Hookom" wrote:

I believe your basic issue is un-normalized tables. It looks like you are
storing data values in field names. This causes too many fields.

You may be able to work around this by using subreports for some of your
tables/fields.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--

"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too
many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error
message
3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to
the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice
and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the
Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report.
In
the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields,
I
can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple
sources
of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't
connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on
that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the
query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same
query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table
called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key
field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these
two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.






  #9  
Old June 13th, 2005, 02:27 PM
PZ Straube
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Duane,
Yes, there's a ton of data to look at with mutual funds. Most people look
just at rates of return and forgot about a lot of other things that I won't
bore this discussion group with.
Not to take up too much more of your valuable time, but with the concept of
normalized data you so correctly suggest people understand, if I have unique
fields in my main table (granted, variations of some things such as 3 year
return and 5 year return OR 3 year standard deviation and 5 year standard
deviation), without seeing my actual table, does this sound normalized?
Thanks!


"Duane Hookom" wrote:

I was mis-reading your query names as field names.
250 pieces of information about a single fund seems like a lot. If there
were multiple fields for "dates" than I would consider this un-normalized.
Since I don't know how all or your fields are used, it is just a guess that
your tables might be un-normalized.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Duane,

Thanks for your response. I appreciate you taking the time to help me.

Please forgive my ignorance but I'm not sure what you mean by "storing
data
values in field names".

Regarding "un-normalized tables", thanks for mentioning that to me because
now that I'm really getting into Access, I better be thinking of that
constantly or things will be even more difficult. I have tables
containing
data on thousands of mutual funds (I'm a consultant to corporate
retirement
plans). Each quarter, I obtain updated data and it goes into a new table.
In each table, each record pertains to one specific mutual fund and there
are
aboout 250 unique pieces of data for each mutual fund (e.g., rate of
return,
risk, style, market capm etc.). My queries will pick up data from the
current quarter's table plus one or more of the prior quaterly tables then
do
some calculations related to the scoring for each fund.

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have three queries that do
calculations
with the last one feeding my reports. I think my problem might be that the
last query contains a ton of calculations plus data directly from the main
table that I hit the limit. I have now put a fourth query in place using
only the calculations used in the reports and everything is fine. Sorry
to
have bothered you with something I should have figured out on my own
before
posting it.

"Duane Hookom" wrote:

I believe your basic issue is un-normalized tables. It looks like you are
storing data values in field names. This causes too many fields.

You may be able to work around this by using subreports for some of your
tables/fields.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--

"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have too
many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error
message
3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add to
the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice
and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the
Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report.
In
the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting fields,
I
can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple
sources
of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source, I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't
connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on
that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the
query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the same
query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single table
called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key
field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from these
two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.







  #10  
Old June 13th, 2005, 05:53 PM
Duane Hookom
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I would consider removing some of these fields and place them in a table
like:

Fund
IndicatorDate
Indicator
IndicatorDuration (months)
IndicatorValue

Records might look like
"MSFT" #6/1/2005# "Return" 36 1.2
"MSFT" #6/1/2005# "Return" 60 1.6

As you might be able to ascertain, I don't know much about mutual fund
tracking.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--

"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Duane,
Yes, there's a ton of data to look at with mutual funds. Most people look
just at rates of return and forgot about a lot of other things that I
won't
bore this discussion group with.
Not to take up too much more of your valuable time, but with the concept
of
normalized data you so correctly suggest people understand, if I have
unique
fields in my main table (granted, variations of some things such as 3 year
return and 5 year return OR 3 year standard deviation and 5 year standard
deviation), without seeing my actual table, does this sound normalized?
Thanks!


"Duane Hookom" wrote:

I was mis-reading your query names as field names.
250 pieces of information about a single fund seems like a lot. If there
were multiple fields for "dates" than I would consider this
un-normalized.
Since I don't know how all or your fields are used, it is just a guess
that
your tables might be un-normalized.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP


"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Duane,

Thanks for your response. I appreciate you taking the time to help me.

Please forgive my ignorance but I'm not sure what you mean by "storing
data
values in field names".

Regarding "un-normalized tables", thanks for mentioning that to me
because
now that I'm really getting into Access, I better be thinking of that
constantly or things will be even more difficult. I have tables
containing
data on thousands of mutual funds (I'm a consultant to corporate
retirement
plans). Each quarter, I obtain updated data and it goes into a new
table.
In each table, each record pertains to one specific mutual fund and
there
are
aboout 250 unique pieces of data for each mutual fund (e.g., rate of
return,
risk, style, market capm etc.). My queries will pick up data from the
current quarter's table plus one or more of the prior quaterly tables
then
do
some calculations related to the scoring for each fund.

For reasons I won't bore you with, I have three queries that do
calculations
with the last one feeding my reports. I think my problem might be that
the
last query contains a ton of calculations plus data directly from the
main
table that I hit the limit. I have now put a fourth query in place
using
only the calculations used in the reports and everything is fine.
Sorry
to
have bothered you with something I should have figured out on my own
before
posting it.

"Duane Hookom" wrote:

I believe your basic issue is un-normalized tables. It looks like you
are
storing data values in field names. This causes too many fields.

You may be able to work around this by using subreports for some of
your
tables/fields.

--
Duane Hookom
MS Access MVP
--

"PZ Straube" wrote in message
...
Hello,

For a report I have in Access 2003, I have apparently tried to have
too
many
fields in the single query that feeds it data and received error
message
3190
when running this query. I took the new data fields I tried to add
to
the
original query and put them in a second query. Because I'm a novice
and
haven't had two sources of data for a single report, I went to the
Report
Wizard to play around with this before modifying my existing report.
In
the
Report Wizard, I see that when I get to the point of selecting
fields,
I
can
change the query or table to be used, thus allowing for multiple
sources
of
data. However, when I tried to have data from more than one source,
I
received the following message:

"You have chosen fields from record sources which the wizard can't
connect.
You may have choosen fields from a table and from a query based on
that
table. If so, try choosing fields from only the table or only the
query."

Here's where I'm at. I am trying to get data from two queries:
Filter_3_part_1 and Filter_3_part_2. Both rely on data from the
same
query,
Filter_2 (which, via Query Filter_1, uses data from the a single
table
called
Main_Data). Both of the Filter_3 queries have the same primary key
field
from table Main_Data.

I need to figure out what I am doing wrong so I can use data from
these
two
queries in my report but I don't know where to start.

Thanks to anyone can point me in the right direction.









 




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