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Old February 25th, 2010, 02:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
il barbi
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I have a problem with my newsserver, the first time I click to open a news
OE hangs for 30" and I get this message "NNTP server NNTP did not answer
after 30", retry or break?", I hit "break" then I click on the same news and
I can read it. The same problem arises after some minutes of inactivity on
OE. Summing up I often am forced to stay 30" waiting for OE restarting.
My provider says he is not able to reproduce the malfunction and that's
all...
I tried to search in the Windows registry with Regedit and I found this
interesting key:
HKCU\Identities\{ident.account}\software\microsoft \Internet Account
Manager\Accounts\{account number of my newsserver}\NNTP Timeout

being set to hex 1E (decimal 30), then I lowered it to hex 0A (decimal 10)
but nothing changed.
I also tried to trace the malfunction with Wireshark utility (I was able to
read line tracing when I worked) and at NNTP level I see something like
that:
time 23.95 Request group microsoft.public.it.windows.vista
time 26.21 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 30.80 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 39.99 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 58.58 TCP retransmission of the previous request - but at this moment
the 30" timeout must alrealy have elapsed
time 67.60 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.60 request mode reader
time 67.78 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.78 request group microsoft.public.it.windows.vista
time 67.96 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.96 request article 150228
time 68.15 response carrying the text of the news I clicked

someone can help?
il barbi



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Old February 25th, 2010, 07:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Does the behavior persist when you access the same newsgroup via the same
newsserver in a new identity?

il barbi wrote:
I have a problem with my newsserver, the first time I click to open a news
OE hangs for 30" and I get this message "NNTP server NNTP did not answer
after 30", retry or break?", I hit "break" then I click on the same news
and
I can read it. The same problem arises after some minutes of inactivity on
OE. Summing up I often am forced to stay 30" waiting for OE restarting.
My provider says he is not able to reproduce the malfunction and that's
all...
I tried to search in the Windows registry with Regedit and I found this
interesting key:
HKCU\Identities\{ident.account}\software\microsoft \Internet Account
Manager\Accounts\{account number of my newsserver}\NNTP Timeout

being set to hex 1E (decimal 30), then I lowered it to hex 0A (decimal 10)
but nothing changed.
I also tried to trace the malfunction with Wireshark utility (I was able
to
read line tracing when I worked) and at NNTP level I see something like
that:
time 23.95 Request group microsoft.public.it.windows.vista
time 26.21 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 30.80 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 39.99 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 58.58 TCP retransmission of the previous request - but at this moment
the 30" timeout must alrealy have elapsed
time 67.60 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.60 request mode reader
time 67.78 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.78 request group microsoft.public.it.windows.vista
time 67.96 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.96 request article 150228
time 68.15 response carrying the text of the news I clicked

someone can help?
il barbi


  #3  
Old February 26th, 2010, 01:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
il barbi
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Does the behavior persist when you access the same newsgroup via the same
newsserver in a new identity?

now I'm trying with a new identity and apparently the problem does not
arise. Do you think my first identity has been marked as "bad" by my
provider?
il barbi


  #4  
Old February 27th, 2010, 07:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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il barbi wrote:
paste
I have a problem with my newsserver, the first time I click to open a
news
OE hangs for 30" and I get this message "NNTP server NNTP did not answer
after 30", retry or break?", I hit "break" then I click on the same news
and
I can read it. The same problem arises after some minutes of inactivity
on
OE. Summing up I often am forced to stay 30" waiting for OE restarting.
My provider says he is not able to reproduce the malfunction and that's
all...
I tried to search in the Windows registry with Regedit and I found this
interesting key:
HKCU\Identities\{ident.account}\software\microsoft \Internet Account
Manager\Accounts\{account number of my newsserver}\NNTP Timeout
being set to hex 1E (decimal 30), then I lowered it to hex 0A (decimal
10)
but nothing changed.
I also tried to trace the malfunction with Wireshark utility (I was able
to
read line tracing when I worked) and at NNTP level I see something like
that:
time 23.95 Request group microsoft.public.it.windows.vista
time 26.21 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 30.80 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 39.99 TCP retransmission of the previous request
time 58.58 TCP retransmission of the previous request - but at this
moment
the 30" timeout must alrealy have elapsed
time 67.60 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.60 request mode reader
time 67.78 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.78 request group microsoft.public.it.windows.vista
time 67.96 response from newsserver (I can't know what it means)
time 67.96 request article 150228
time 68.15 response carrying the text of the news I clicked

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PA Bear wrote:
Does the behavior persist when you access the same newsgroup via the same
newsserver in a new identity?

now I'm trying with a new identity and apparently the problem does not
arise. Do you think my first identity has been marked as "bad" by my
provider?


No, I think your original identity was/is damaged, especially if it is the
default Main Identity.

Assuming all is well now *and* you've added all of your Mail accounts to the
news identity, (1) compact all folders in the old identity, (2) import
messages from the old identity into the new one, and then (3) delete the old
one (File | Identities | Manage Identities).

To avoid such corruption in futu

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

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Old February 27th, 2010, 08:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
il barbi
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Default NNTP Timeout

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Does the behavior persist when you access the same newsgroup via the
same
newsserver in a new identity?

now I'm trying with a new identity and apparently the problem does not
arise. Do you think my first identity has been marked as "bad" by my
provider?


No, I think your original identity was/is damaged, especially if it is the
default Main Identity.

Thank you very much for your valuable advices, I'll follow them soon
anyway I can't understand how the items you quoted can damage my identity,
for instance why folder compacting is recommended, can you suggest some
explanatory link?
il barbi


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Old March 1st, 2010, 11:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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"il barbi" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" ha scritto nel messaggio
...

Thank you very much for your valuable advices, I'll follow them soon

sigh... I emptied the folders of sent & received messages, compressed all
other folders, transferred all folders and re-suscribed a number of NGs
under two newsservers (msnews.microsoft.com and news.ngi.it) with the new
identity but I get the same problem...
il barbi


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Old March 2nd, 2010, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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Default NNTP Timeout

il barbi wrote:
sigh... I emptied the folders of sent & received messages, compressed all
other folders, transferred all folders and re-suscribed a number of NGs
under two newsservers (msnews.microsoft.com and news.ngi.it) with the new
identity but I get the same problem...


Are you seeing the behavior in both newsservers or just news.ngi.it?
  #8  
Old March 3rd, 2010, 10:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
il barbi
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Default NNTP Timeout

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
il barbi wrote:
sigh... I emptied the folders of sent & received messages, compressed all
other folders, transferred all folders and re-suscribed a number of NGs
under two newsservers (msnews.microsoft.com and news.ngi.it) with the new
identity but I get the same problem...


Are you seeing the behavior in both newsservers or just news.ngi.it?

both - anyway it is better to wait some days and see, for instance this
evening I don't get the problem
il barbi



  #9  
Old March 3rd, 2010, 08:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
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Default NNTP Timeout

il barbi wrote:
sigh... I emptied the folders of sent & received messages, compressed
all
other folders, transferred all folders and re-suscribed a number of NGs
under two newsservers (msnews.microsoft.com and news.ngi.it) with the
new
identity but I get the same problem...


Are you seeing the behavior in both newsservers or just news.ngi.it?

both - anyway it is better to wait some days and see, for instance this
evening I don't get the problem


Do you connect via dial-up, ADSL, or via a wireless interned (USB) modem?

Does the behavior persist after 21:00 local time or later or before 06:00
local time? Is it worse on weekends?

  #10  
Old March 4th, 2010, 10:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
il barbi
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" ha scritto nel messaggio
...

Do you connect via dial-up, ADSL, or via a wireless interned (USB) modem?


I connect via wifi since no provider offers wired connection in my area, I
have a D-Link DI-524 wireless router receiving via cable from an aerial and
serving a domestic LAN with 2 PCs via Ethernet cable and a notebook
wirelessly

Does the behavior persist after 21:00 local time or later or before 06:00
local time? Is it worse on weekends?

I don't notice any significant variation of behaviour in a day and in a week
anyway from sometime things are beginning to go ok, I think perhaps we got
it
il barbi


 




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