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  #1  
Old December 27th, 2007, 02:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
JMB
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office 2007. And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007 apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user friendly and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB
  #2  
Old December 27th, 2007, 03:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

I'm not using Office 2007 yet, so I'm still an outsider looking in, and from
here I've seen a lot of pain like yours reflected in these NGs. One
suggestion I can offer is that any keyboard shortcuts you may have learned
(including the Alt+ shortcuts for navigating menus) will still work. You may
also find the interactive command reference
(http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...HA100744321033
for Word) of some limited utility.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office 2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB



  #3  
Old December 27th, 2007, 03:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Herb Tyson [MVP]
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

When I agreed to write a book about Word 2007, I faced exactly the same
problem you're facing. But, because Word 2007 was the object rather than the
means, I had no choice in the matter. At the outset, I was using Word 2003
to write the book, but at some point, critical productivity mass was
achieved, and I found that new Word 2007 features made me more productive,
and so I wrote the last half of the book using Word 2007.

I don't know if there are "classic" interface tools for Excel, but there are
several for Word 2007:

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/

http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111

I believe that the second option is free. So, for Word, at least, you have
at least three choices:

1. Bite the bullet and learn Word 2007, knowing that Word 14 will surely
build on Word 2007/12 rather than on Word 2003/11; this is the best option
if you need to keep up with future versions of Word. If it's hard to get
used to the new interface now in Word 12, it will only be more difficult
several years from now with Word 14.

2. Use a classic interface tool, relying on it when you're in a hurry, but
otherwise dabbling and gradually learning the ribbon approach. This is a
good option if Word 2007 has features that you need, but you don't need to
learn Word 2007 in a hurry. There are other learning aids you can use, as
well, such as the interactive guide that shows you where to find Word 2007
commands and features:
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...HA100744321033.

3. Revert to Word 2003. This is a good option if Word 2003 provides
everything you need and if you won't need to work with documents that rely
upon Word 2007-specific features that aren't preserved when using the Office
2007 Compatibility Pack.

A 4th option--not incompatible with #1 and #2--is to set up Word 2007's
Quick Access Toolbar so that it contains your most-used tools from Word 2003
(do the same for Excel 2007). This is the approach I use for my everyday
work, and it has alleviated a lot of Word 2007's ergonomic inefficiencies.
One approach to this is shown he

http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2...more-familiar/


--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office 2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB


  #4  
Old December 27th, 2007, 04:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
JMB
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Posts: 1,266
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office 2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this. Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used to be.

--
JMB


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

When I agreed to write a book about Word 2007, I faced exactly the same
problem you're facing. But, because Word 2007 was the object rather than the
means, I had no choice in the matter. At the outset, I was using Word 2003
to write the book, but at some point, critical productivity mass was
achieved, and I found that new Word 2007 features made me more productive,
and so I wrote the last half of the book using Word 2007.

I don't know if there are "classic" interface tools for Excel, but there are
several for Word 2007:

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/

http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111

I believe that the second option is free. So, for Word, at least, you have
at least three choices:

1. Bite the bullet and learn Word 2007, knowing that Word 14 will surely
build on Word 2007/12 rather than on Word 2003/11; this is the best option
if you need to keep up with future versions of Word. If it's hard to get
used to the new interface now in Word 12, it will only be more difficult
several years from now with Word 14.

2. Use a classic interface tool, relying on it when you're in a hurry, but
otherwise dabbling and gradually learning the ribbon approach. This is a
good option if Word 2007 has features that you need, but you don't need to
learn Word 2007 in a hurry. There are other learning aids you can use, as
well, such as the interactive guide that shows you where to find Word 2007
commands and features:
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...HA100744321033.

3. Revert to Word 2003. This is a good option if Word 2003 provides
everything you need and if you won't need to work with documents that rely
upon Word 2007-specific features that aren't preserved when using the Office
2007 Compatibility Pack.

A 4th option--not incompatible with #1 and #2--is to set up Word 2007's
Quick Access Toolbar so that it contains your most-used tools from Word 2003
(do the same for Excel 2007). This is the approach I use for my everyday
work, and it has alleviated a lot of Word 2007's ergonomic inefficiencies.
One approach to this is shown he

http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2...more-familiar/


--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office 2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB



  #5  
Old December 27th, 2007, 04:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Herb Tyson [MVP]
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Posts: 3,614
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

Use the QAT as much as possible to collect your most frequently used tools.
One good thing about Office 2007 is that it's really easy to add items to
the QAT. Right-click what you want, and choose Add to Quick Access Toolbar.
The other thing that will make it less of a pain (literally) is to move the
QAT to below the ribbon. That way, it will a shorter mouse journey, and
easier to access. (Right-click the QAT and choose "Show QAT Below the
Ribbon".) The QAT has been my salvation.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office
2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this.
Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with
the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem
to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The
next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used to
be.

--
JMB


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

When I agreed to write a book about Word 2007, I faced exactly the same
problem you're facing. But, because Word 2007 was the object rather than
the
means, I had no choice in the matter. At the outset, I was using Word
2003
to write the book, but at some point, critical productivity mass was
achieved, and I found that new Word 2007 features made me more
productive,
and so I wrote the last half of the book using Word 2007.

I don't know if there are "classic" interface tools for Excel, but there
are
several for Word 2007:

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/

http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111

I believe that the second option is free. So, for Word, at least, you
have
at least three choices:

1. Bite the bullet and learn Word 2007, knowing that Word 14 will surely
build on Word 2007/12 rather than on Word 2003/11; this is the best
option
if you need to keep up with future versions of Word. If it's hard to get
used to the new interface now in Word 12, it will only be more difficult
several years from now with Word 14.

2. Use a classic interface tool, relying on it when you're in a hurry,
but
otherwise dabbling and gradually learning the ribbon approach. This is a
good option if Word 2007 has features that you need, but you don't need
to
learn Word 2007 in a hurry. There are other learning aids you can use, as
well, such as the interactive guide that shows you where to find Word
2007
commands and features:
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...HA100744321033.

3. Revert to Word 2003. This is a good option if Word 2003 provides
everything you need and if you won't need to work with documents that
rely
upon Word 2007-specific features that aren't preserved when using the
Office
2007 Compatibility Pack.

A 4th option--not incompatible with #1 and #2--is to set up Word 2007's
Quick Access Toolbar so that it contains your most-used tools from Word
2003
(do the same for Excel 2007). This is the approach I use for my everyday
work, and it has alleviated a lot of Word 2007's ergonomic
inefficiencies.
One approach to this is shown he

http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2...more-familiar/


--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office
2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and
spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but
so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user
friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but
I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and
know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB




  #6  
Old December 27th, 2007, 05:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Jay Freedman
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:00:00 -0800, JMB wrote:

Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office 2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this. Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used to be.


For the "why", you may want to read the 8-part series by Jensen Harris, the lead
of the UI team, starting from the "table of contents" at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv..._/default.aspx.
It may help to have some of this background.

For the most part, I find that I do things in Word 2007 the same way I did them
in earlier versions; only the locations of the commands are different. Yes, it
takes some effort to store the new locations in permanent memory. And despite
the "new is better" facade, it's clear that some things aren't in logical
positions -- but they weren't necessarily in logical places before, just ones
that we were used to. (What the heck is a "Tools" menu, anyway? Isn't everything
a tool of one kind or another?)

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
  #7  
Old December 27th, 2007, 07:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
CyberTaz
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

In addition to the excellent suggestions from others, I've found it quite
helpful to pay particular attention to the "Dialog Launcher" buttons that
appear on the right end of the group name bar of many of the tabs - they
look like a little square with a diagonal arrow within it... In most cases
the dialogs or Task Panes they evoke are virtually identical to what you're
accustomed to using in previous versions.

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 12/26/07 10:00 PM, in article
, "JMB"
wrote:

Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office 2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this. Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used to be.


  #8  
Old December 27th, 2007, 11:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell[_2_]
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Posts: 231
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

Bob

And how I wish these 'dialog launchers' were activated by clicking anywhere
in the group title bar rather than having to aim for the piddling little
arrow at its end. After all, the bar is functionless other than for display
the group title.

Terry

"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
In addition to the excellent suggestions from others, I've found it quite
helpful to pay particular attention to the "Dialog Launcher" buttons that
appear on the right end of the group name bar of many of the tabs - they
look like a little square with a diagonal arrow within it... In most cases
the dialogs or Task Panes they evoke are virtually identical to what
you're
accustomed to using in previous versions.

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 12/26/07 10:00 PM, in article
, "JMB"
wrote:

Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office
2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this.
Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to
bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with
the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem
to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The
next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting
any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used
to be.



  #9  
Old December 27th, 2007, 12:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell[_2_]
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Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

The others have given you some great tips to start off with: namely use the
old keyboard shortcuts and modify the QAT to be useful for your style of
working.

I feel your pain as I have already been through it. Personally, I am all in
favour of the new Ribbon, but at least three quarters of the tools on the
ribbons are redundant for my way of working. This was the same as previous
versions of Word, but at least in those cases I was able to remove the
redundant tools and add the tools that I find productive (or create a custom
toolbar). Now I am stuck with all the junk stealing my screen real estate.
At least the QAT is easy to edit and you can collapse the Ribbon when not
needed.

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"JMB" wrote in message
...
Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office
2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this.
Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with
the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem
to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The
next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used to
be.

--
JMB


"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

When I agreed to write a book about Word 2007, I faced exactly the same
problem you're facing. But, because Word 2007 was the object rather than
the
means, I had no choice in the matter. At the outset, I was using Word
2003
to write the book, but at some point, critical productivity mass was
achieved, and I found that new Word 2007 features made me more
productive,
and so I wrote the last half of the book using Word 2007.

I don't know if there are "classic" interface tools for Excel, but there
are
several for Word 2007:

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuword/

http://pschmid.net/blog/2007/04/20/111

I believe that the second option is free. So, for Word, at least, you
have
at least three choices:

1. Bite the bullet and learn Word 2007, knowing that Word 14 will surely
build on Word 2007/12 rather than on Word 2003/11; this is the best
option
if you need to keep up with future versions of Word. If it's hard to get
used to the new interface now in Word 12, it will only be more difficult
several years from now with Word 14.

2. Use a classic interface tool, relying on it when you're in a hurry,
but
otherwise dabbling and gradually learning the ribbon approach. This is a
good option if Word 2007 has features that you need, but you don't need
to
learn Word 2007 in a hurry. There are other learning aids you can use, as
well, such as the interactive guide that shows you where to find Word
2007
commands and features:
http://office.microsoft.com/assistan...HA100744321033.

3. Revert to Word 2003. This is a good option if Word 2003 provides
everything you need and if you won't need to work with documents that
rely
upon Word 2007-specific features that aren't preserved when using the
Office
2007 Compatibility Pack.

A 4th option--not incompatible with #1 and #2--is to set up Word 2007's
Quick Access Toolbar so that it contains your most-used tools from Word
2003
(do the same for Excel 2007). This is the approach I use for my everyday
work, and it has alleviated a lot of Word 2007's ergonomic
inefficiencies.
One approach to this is shown he

http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com/2...more-familiar/


--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com
"JMB" wrote in message
...
I'll make an honest attempt to give this question/feedback a positive
twist.
I have been using Word/Excel etc. for years now and consider myself
somewhat
of an expert user. Now I have a new computer with Vista and Office
2007.
And
I essentially find myself facing this predicament of going up an
enormously
steep learning curve, i.e. relearning how to wordprocess and
spreadsheet
almost from scratch all over again. The new and improved of Office 2007
apps
may look much more "politically correct" than in previous versions, but
so
far my experience has been that it can hardly get any less user
friendly
and
more convoluted than this. I'm giving it a very serious try here, but
I'm
also beginning to think about throwing in the towel. Anybody out there
that
can offer any useful advice as to how I can actually start using the
Office
2007 applications without letting all my previous experience and
know-how
completely go to waste?
--
JMB




  #10  
Old December 27th, 2007, 04:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
CyberTaz
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Posts: 1,362
Default Word 2007 Learning Curve

Hey Terry -

Do ya think that maybe they're trying to discourage people from using them
because they eventually intend to yank the dialogs out?;-)

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 12/27/07 5:53 AM, in article
, "Terry Farrell"
wrote:

Bob

And how I wish these 'dialog launchers' were activated by clicking anywhere
in the group title bar rather than having to aim for the piddling little
arrow at its end. After all, the bar is functionless other than for display
the group title.

Terry

"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
In addition to the excellent suggestions from others, I've found it quite
helpful to pay particular attention to the "Dialog Launcher" buttons that
appear on the right end of the group name bar of many of the tabs - they
look like a little square with a diagonal arrow within it... In most cases
the dialogs or Task Panes they evoke are virtually identical to what
you're
accustomed to using in previous versions.

HTH |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 12/26/07 10:00 PM, in article
, "JMB"
wrote:

Herb and Susan, thanks for the useful feedback. Like Herb I have no
choice,
with my company about to make a massive migration to Vista and Office
2007.
And I can't afford to loose much time and productivity because of this.
Hence
my present preparatory work at home in my spare time. So I'll have to
bite
the bullet, but this looks like it is going to be a very tough and bitter
one. Quite frankly I fail to understand what Microsoft was/is thinking.
Preparing a new document or spreadsheet seems to be all about coping with
the
user interface and appearances now, and in the meantime many people seem
to
forget what it is really about, i.e. the contents of the message ... The
next
release has been aptly code named MS Office HAB (Hot Air Balloon). On the
other hand I suppose it is also fair to point out that I'm not getting
any
younger and possibly my flexibility to adjust is no longer what it used
to be.




 




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