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It's currently an issue with the colours - RGB vs CMYK. He did the proofs
for us but the colours were not perfect so we need to sort out where the problem lies which I am sure has something to do with the way it was converted to pdf "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote in message ... If you give a printer a good pdf he shouldn't care much how it got created. I've never had problem handing printers my pdfs...previously had been giving them EPS and for me (not a printer) that was a moderate pain sometimes. "ChrisB" wrote in message ... OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif Page Plus welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our magazine. Thanks "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... Chris, Before you buy Acrobat, you might want to take a look at Serif Page Plus. It's similar to Pub, as far as the tools go, but it can create industry standard PDF/X1-a pdf files. It might save you several dollars and make your life easier. Mike ChrisB wrote: Oh I see... well actually HE was the one having the problem! I sent him the Publisher file but he was unable to save it to a PDF himself. However, having done some research on the Microsoft site, it appears that we might need to use a different method - i.e. saving it as a ps file first being one option and another option was mentioned too. He was doing it for me because I only had a 'free' version of pdf software which didn't give me the bleed options that I needed. I am about to purchase a full version of Adobe 7 so I will try this myself once I have it. Thanks for all your help... and patience. "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... Chris, Sorry, I did not make myself clear. Your problem may be unrelated to Publisher. If you are using Acrobat to create the pdf file, it gives you different options. One of those is what version of PDF to save - you might be creating the pdf file using PDF 1.4 while the best his equipment can handle is 1.3. If you are using Acrobat, ask your printer if he has a JobOptions file he can share with you. This will have the settings he prefers. Mike ChrisB wrote: He doesn't know Publisher. He is trying to help us but wouldn't be using Publisher by choice - so I am attempting to get as much information for him as I can. "Mike Koewler" wrote in message .. . Chris, You should ask HIM, not us. Some older RIPs might have trouble with the latest versions of Acrobat. Saving as PDF 1.3 or 1.2 might help. Mike ChrisB wrote: We are having a colour problem with the printer we are sending the Publisher files to. He thinks it's because his version of PDF software is not compatible with Publisher - it keeps crashing. What is the best PDF software (version) to get to work with Publisher? Many thanks |
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ChrisB wrote:
OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif Page Plus welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our magazine. While Mike is correct about Serif PagePlus and it's PDF abilities (he's a veteran of PagePlus), the only problem is flexibility and a new learning curve. Their PDF is proprietary, meaning it's built (hard coded into the File menu, not as a printer driver). You will not be able to use it's PDF making ability with any other program, such as Microsoft Office, Microsoft Publisher, Internet Explorer, etc. You can use Adobe Acrobat 7 with ANY application (including Serif PagePlus.) So now you are limited to only one program to create a PDF. Secondly, you will have to learn a new program and you will find that there are substantially less printers out there that are even aware of the Serif product. In my opinion, if you did NOT have Publisher already, and you didn't need PDF making abilities for any other program and you had to choose between the two apps for the first time, I would have chosen Serif Page Plus 10. -- Brian Kvalheim Microsoft Publisher MVP http://www.publishermvps.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. |
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Did you set Pub for CMYK when you created the document?
"ChrisB" wrote in message ... It's currently an issue with the colours - RGB vs CMYK. He did the proofs for us but the colours were not perfect so we need to sort out where the problem lies which I am sure has something to do with the way it was converted to pdf "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote in message ... If you give a printer a good pdf he shouldn't care much how it got created. I've never had problem handing printers my pdfs...previously had been giving them EPS and for me (not a printer) that was a moderate pain sometimes. "ChrisB" wrote in message ... OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif Page Plus welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our magazine. Thanks "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... Chris, Before you buy Acrobat, you might want to take a look at Serif Page Plus. It's similar to Pub, as far as the tools go, but it can create industry standard PDF/X1-a pdf files. It might save you several dollars and make your life easier. Mike ChrisB wrote: Oh I see... well actually HE was the one having the problem! I sent him the Publisher file but he was unable to save it to a PDF himself. However, having done some research on the Microsoft site, it appears that we might need to use a different method - i.e. saving it as a ps file first being one option and another option was mentioned too. He was doing it for me because I only had a 'free' version of pdf software which didn't give me the bleed options that I needed. I am about to purchase a full version of Adobe 7 so I will try this myself once I have it. Thanks for all your help... and patience. "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... Chris, Sorry, I did not make myself clear. Your problem may be unrelated to Publisher. If you are using Acrobat to create the pdf file, it gives you different options. One of those is what version of PDF to save - you might be creating the pdf file using PDF 1.4 while the best his equipment can handle is 1.3. If you are using Acrobat, ask your printer if he has a JobOptions file he can share with you. This will have the settings he prefers. Mike ChrisB wrote: He doesn't know Publisher. He is trying to help us but wouldn't be using Publisher by choice - so I am attempting to get as much information for him as I can. "Mike Koewler" wrote in message . .. Chris, You should ask HIM, not us. Some older RIPs might have trouble with the latest versions of Acrobat. Saving as PDF 1.3 or 1.2 might help. Mike ChrisB wrote: We are having a colour problem with the printer we are sending the Publisher files to. He thinks it's because his version of PDF software is not compatible with Publisher - it keeps crashing. What is the best PDF software (version) to get to work with Publisher? Many thanks |
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Yes I did
"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote in message ... Did you set Pub for CMYK when you created the document? "ChrisB" wrote in message ... It's currently an issue with the colours - RGB vs CMYK. He did the proofs for us but the colours were not perfect so we need to sort out where the problem lies which I am sure has something to do with the way it was converted to pdf "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote in message ... If you give a printer a good pdf he shouldn't care much how it got created. I've never had problem handing printers my pdfs...previously had been giving them EPS and for me (not a printer) that was a moderate pain sometimes. "ChrisB" wrote in message ... OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif Page Plus welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our magazine. Thanks "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... Chris, Before you buy Acrobat, you might want to take a look at Serif Page Plus. It's similar to Pub, as far as the tools go, but it can create industry standard PDF/X1-a pdf files. It might save you several dollars and make your life easier. Mike ChrisB wrote: Oh I see... well actually HE was the one having the problem! I sent him the Publisher file but he was unable to save it to a PDF himself. However, having done some research on the Microsoft site, it appears that we might need to use a different method - i.e. saving it as a ps file first being one option and another option was mentioned too. He was doing it for me because I only had a 'free' version of pdf software which didn't give me the bleed options that I needed. I am about to purchase a full version of Adobe 7 so I will try this myself once I have it. Thanks for all your help... and patience. "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... Chris, Sorry, I did not make myself clear. Your problem may be unrelated to Publisher. If you are using Acrobat to create the pdf file, it gives you different options. One of those is what version of PDF to save - you might be creating the pdf file using PDF 1.4 while the best his equipment can handle is 1.3. If you are using Acrobat, ask your printer if he has a JobOptions file he can share with you. This will have the settings he prefers. Mike ChrisB wrote: He doesn't know Publisher. He is trying to help us but wouldn't be using Publisher by choice - so I am attempting to get as much information for him as I can. "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... Chris, You should ask HIM, not us. Some older RIPs might have trouble with the latest versions of Acrobat. Saving as PDF 1.3 or 1.2 might help. Mike ChrisB wrote: We are having a colour problem with the printer we are sending the Publisher files to. He thinks it's because his version of PDF software is not compatible with Publisher - it keeps crashing. What is the best PDF software (version) to get to work with Publisher? Many thanks |
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Thanks for the additional information - I really appreciate everyone's help.
Having got this far down the line, we would obviously like to get the Publisher to do what we want and i will have a go at sorting out the colour issues. Many thanks "Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message ... ChrisB wrote: OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif Page Plus welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our magazine. While Mike is correct about Serif PagePlus and it's PDF abilities (he's a veteran of PagePlus), the only problem is flexibility and a new learning curve. Their PDF is proprietary, meaning it's built (hard coded into the File menu, not as a printer driver). You will not be able to use it's PDF making ability with any other program, such as Microsoft Office, Microsoft Publisher, Internet Explorer, etc. You can use Adobe Acrobat 7 with ANY application (including Serif PagePlus.) So now you are limited to only one program to create a PDF. Secondly, you will have to learn a new program and you will find that there are substantially less printers out there that are even aware of the Serif product. In my opinion, if you did NOT have Publisher already, and you didn't need PDF making abilities for any other program and you had to choose between the two apps for the first time, I would have chosen Serif Page Plus 10. -- Brian Kvalheim Microsoft Publisher MVP http://www.publishermvps.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. |
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Chris,
AFAIK, in the US, hardly any printers have even heard of PagePlus. But they have heard of .pdf files! All you need to do is to select Publish as PDF, select PDF/X1-a, and your files will be output according to the latest industry standards. As Brian says, I'm a PP user (though I also have Pub and Quark on the computer and have done files in both), so I'm likely biased. But, I know a couple of people who use it to produce a weekly newspaper (I'm one of them), others do a weekly or monthly magazine, others have done books (I also did a book). One nice thing - Serif offers a 30-day, no questions asked, money back guarantee. You could always try it. Mike ChrisB wrote: OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif Page Plus welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our magazine. Thanks "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... Chris, Before you buy Acrobat, you might want to take a look at Serif Page Plus. It's similar to Pub, as far as the tools go, but it can create industry standard PDF/X1-a pdf files. It might save you several dollars and make your life easier. Mike ChrisB wrote: Oh I see... well actually HE was the one having the problem! I sent him the Publisher file but he was unable to save it to a PDF himself. However, having done some research on the Microsoft site, it appears that we might need to use a different method - i.e. saving it as a ps file first being one option and another option was mentioned too. He was doing it for me because I only had a 'free' version of pdf software which didn't give me the bleed options that I needed. I am about to purchase a full version of Adobe 7 so I will try this myself once I have it. Thanks for all your help... and patience. "Mike Koewler" wrote in message .. . Chris, Sorry, I did not make myself clear. Your problem may be unrelated to Publisher. If you are using Acrobat to create the pdf file, it gives you different options. One of those is what version of PDF to save - you might be creating the pdf file using PDF 1.4 while the best his equipment can handle is 1.3. If you are using Acrobat, ask your printer if he has a JobOptions file he can share with you. This will have the settings he prefers. Mike ChrisB wrote: He doesn't know Publisher. He is trying to help us but wouldn't be using Publisher by choice - so I am attempting to get as much information for him as I can. "Mike Koewler" wrote in message . .. Chris, You should ask HIM, not us. Some older RIPs might have trouble with the latest versions of Acrobat. Saving as PDF 1.3 or 1.2 might help. Mike ChrisB wrote: We are having a colour problem with the printer we are sending the Publisher files to. He thinks it's because his version of PDF software is not compatible with Publisher - it keeps crashing. What is the best PDF software (version) to get to work with Publisher? Many thanks |
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Isn't freeserif from the same momma?
It's pretty dang good for a freebie...and you get regular emails from Natasha :-) "Mike Koewler" wrote in message ... | Chris, | | AFAIK, in the US, hardly any printers have even heard of PagePlus. But | they have heard of .pdf files! All you need to do is to select Publish | as PDF, select PDF/X1-a, and your files will be output according to the | latest industry standards. | | As Brian says, I'm a PP user (though I also have Pub and Quark on the | computer and have done files in both), so I'm likely biased. But, I know | a couple of people who use it to produce a weekly newspaper (I'm one of | them), others do a weekly or monthly magazine, others have done books (I | also did a book). | | One nice thing - Serif offers a 30-day, no questions asked, money back | guarantee. You could always try it. | | Mike | | ChrisB wrote: | | OK that's interesting. The biggest problem with Publisher is the | professional printers are not that keen on using it(!). Is Serif Page Plus | welcomed? We need to get high quality prints out of our magazine. | | Thanks | "Mike Koewler" wrote in message | ... | | Chris, | | Before you buy Acrobat, you might want to take a look at Serif Page Plus. | It's similar to Pub, as far as the tools go, but it can create industry | standard PDF/X1-a pdf files. It might save you several dollars and make | your life easier. | | Mike | | ChrisB wrote: | | Oh I see... well actually HE was the one having the problem! I sent him | the Publisher file but he was unable to save it to a PDF himself. | However, having done some research on the Microsoft site, it appears that | we might need to use a different method - i.e. saving it as a ps file | first being one option and another option was mentioned too. | | He was doing it for me because I only had a 'free' version of pdf | software which didn't give me the bleed options that I needed. | | I am about to purchase a full version of Adobe 7 so I will try this | myself once I have it. | | Thanks for all your help... and patience. | "Mike Koewler" wrote in message | .. . | | | Chris, | | Sorry, I did not make myself clear. Your problem may be unrelated to | Publisher. If you are using Acrobat to create the pdf file, it gives you | different options. One of those is what version of PDF to save - you | might be creating the pdf file using PDF 1.4 while the best his equipment | can handle is 1.3. If you are using Acrobat, ask your printer if he has a | JobOptions file he can share with you. This will have the settings he | prefers. | | Mike | | ChrisB wrote: | | | He doesn't know Publisher. He is trying to help us but wouldn't be | using Publisher by choice - so I am attempting to get as much | information for him as I can. | "Mike Koewler" wrote in message | . .. | | | | Chris, | | You should ask HIM, not us. Some older RIPs might have trouble with the | latest versions of Acrobat. Saving as PDF 1.3 or 1.2 might help. | | Mike | | ChrisB wrote: | | | | We are having a colour problem with the printer we are sending the | Publisher files to. He thinks it's because his version of PDF | software is not compatible with Publisher - it keeps crashing. | | What is the best PDF software (version) to get to work with Publisher? | | Many thanks | | | | |
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Mike Koewler was very recently heard to utter:
AFAIK, in the US, hardly any printers have even heard of PagePlus. But they have heard of .pdf files! All you need to do is to select Publish as PDF, select PDF/X1-a, and your files will be output according to the latest industry standards. A little OT - is PDF/X1-a backwards compatible? I mean, if it's the latest industry standard, then is it likely to be supported by anyone apart from the most up-to-date printers? -- Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher |
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Ed,
X1-a is a set of standards regarding the pdf. It has to be CMYK, all fonts have to be embedded and images have to be at least 175 dpi (though it will produce a pdf if a lower res image is used). It may also include no use of OPI, though I'm not certain about this. Basically, it's a set of job options and creates an Acrobat 4.0 (pdf 1.3) which any printer should be able to handle. Some printers, such as national magazines may add to the requirements, such as not allowing jpg images. Mike Ed Bennett wrote: Mike Koewler was very recently heard to utter: AFAIK, in the US, hardly any printers have even heard of PagePlus. But they have heard of .pdf files! All you need to do is to select Publish as PDF, select PDF/X1-a, and your files will be output according to the latest industry standards. A little OT - is PDF/X1-a backwards compatible? I mean, if it's the latest industry standard, then is it likely to be supported by anyone apart from the most up-to-date printers? |
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Mike Koewler was very recently heard to utter:
Basically, it's a set of job options and creates an Acrobat 4.0 (pdf 1.3) which any printer should be able to handle. Thanks, Mike! -- Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher |
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