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Old May 6th, 2010, 07:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
jimmy fallon
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?

Just curious, where is the backup command or download for it?

And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE?
It seems to me that it's the single most important feature to have.
Anyone?

jf
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Old May 6th, 2010, 09:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?



"jimmy fallon" wrote in message
...
Just curious, where is the backup command or download for it?

And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE?
It seems to me that it's the single most important feature to have.
Anyone?

jf


What backup utility are you asking about. You can export any item in
Outlook and you can save a copy of the .pst file at any time you want. Some
operating systems have backup facilities built into them so you would need
to look at your backup method.

System backup is important but that would be the responsibility of the owner
of the computer, not Microsoft, Dell or Gateway... System backup can be and
often is a personal thing where one person likes this brand of software and
another person hates the software. Personally, I'm now using Windows Home
Server to backup my 5 computers (3 laptops and 2 desktops) on my home
network and so far like it a lot. It conducts daily incremental backups and
weekly full backups of the computers along with an off-site backup every
week.

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Old May 6th, 2010, 09:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
Gordon[_15_]
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?


"jimmy fallon" wrote in message
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And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE?


Because the primary use, and where the vast majority of Outlook instances
are, is in corporate installations where Exchange Server is used and backups
are made daily of the Exchange Server mailboxes.
The usage of Outlook by private individuals using non Exchange email
accounts has certainly up until recently been quite small in comparison...

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Old May 6th, 2010, 10:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?


For Outlook 2010 the utility hasn't been released/updated yet but
I suspect the old utility (link below) might work but I haven't
tried it yet as my current system hasn't got Office 2010:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=8B081F3A-B7D0-4B16-B8AF-5A6322F4FD01&displaylang=en

The old utility was for Outlook 2007/2003/2002 and I suspect 2010
needs to be added at the front.

hth


jimmy fallon wrote:

Just curious, where is the backup command or download for it?

And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE?
It seems to me that it's the single most important feature to have.
Anyone?

jf


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Old May 7th, 2010, 07:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?

On May 6, 2:10*pm, jimmy fallon
wrote:
Just curious, where is the backup command or download for it?

And, why isn't this feature included in Outlook for the last DECADE?
It seems to me that it's the single most important feature to have.
Anyone?

jf


The old MS-distributed Outlook backup utility does not work with
Outlook 2010. It installs OK and then shows properly in the add-in
section of the ribbon; however, the backup does not initiate as
specified (date and time). I tried to get it to work for a long time.

I've setup a workaround using a batch file--

"copy C:\users\katherine\appdata\local\microsoft\outlook \outlook.pst G:
\MSObackup /D /Y" It copies the outlook.pst file to a special folder
on another partition. The batch file has been setup to run every
morning at 10:00am (whether computer is in sleep mode ot not) using
the Win 7 Task Scheduler. End result is identical to the old Outlook
Backup utility.

LaModiste
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Old May 7th, 2010, 07:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
Gordon[_15_]
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?


"jimmy fallon" wrote in message
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You all are truly living in outer space. Of course there should be a
backup
command for Outlook,


Why? As I said the VAST majority of Outlook usage occurs in a CORPORATE
environment, using Exchange Server where the mailboxes and the GAL etc etc
are all backed up daily from the server.
Does that scenario apply to Quickbooks? To Quicken? No it doesn't. Small
business accounting packages tend to be run on stand-alone machines without
server backup functions. THAT'S why those types of applications DO have a
backup function and Outlook doesn't.
Live with it.

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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
jimmy fallon
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?

Kevryl! I love you man! YOU GET IT! And everyone else in here reminds me of
the reason every version of Windows before Windows 7 was so inferior. They
have come so far in Win 7, if MS reverts back to the metality that the
replies to this simple post comprise, then Apple share will climb, not
because they are easier to use but because they have been TOLD they're easier
to use. And people will do ANYTHING to make there computer lives easier!

There will always be computers for people who know how to use them, but if
you can't make computers easier for the rest of the world, you're not doing
your job MS.

Workarounds are unacceptable. And Outlook is used by a LOT of home users to
manage their lives and sync with there phones. And syncing to the cloud will
be a great addition to that when Win 7 phone (finally) comes out, but I don't
want my stuff on the cloud I want ONE thing on my memory stick, and I want it
to be a 2 step process, the way it has been for every single version of
Outlook, up until now.

A backup utility for Outlook is SO SO SO SO SO, NOT too much to expect.

jf

"Gordon" wrote:


"jimmy fallon" wrote in message
...
You all are truly living in outer space. Of course there should be a
backup
command for Outlook,


Why? As I said the VAST majority of Outlook usage occurs in a CORPORATE
environment, using Exchange Server where the mailboxes and the GAL etc etc
are all backed up daily from the server.
Does that scenario apply to Quickbooks? To Quicken? No it doesn't. Small
business accounting packages tend to be run on stand-alone machines without
server backup functions. THAT'S why those types of applications DO have a
backup function and Outlook doesn't.
Live with it.

.

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Old May 7th, 2010, 01:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
Bob I
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?

Just because it isn't accomplished using the method you want, doesn't
mean it isn't happening.

Please read the following
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...d-restore.aspx

jimmy fallon wrote:

Kevryl! I love you man! YOU GET IT! And everyone else in here reminds me of
the reason every version of Windows before Windows 7 was so inferior. They
have come so far in Win 7, if MS reverts back to the metality that the
replies to this simple post comprise, then Apple share will climb, not
because they are easier to use but because they have been TOLD they're easier
to use. And people will do ANYTHING to make there computer lives easier!

There will always be computers for people who know how to use them, but if
you can't make computers easier for the rest of the world, you're not doing
your job MS.




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Old May 7th, 2010, 01:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
Tom Willett[_2_]
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?


"jimmy fallon" wrote in message
...
: For me it's a breeze. But I teach HUNDREDS of people how to use computers,
: for a living. And the people I teach are afraid of their computers. And
there
: are a LOT of them. And they are afraid to ask for help because of answers
: like that. They feel stupid.

Then you are a lousy teacher.


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Old May 7th, 2010, 04:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
Steve Rindsberg
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Default Where is the backup utility for Outlook 2010?

In article , Bob I wrote:
Just because it isn't accomplished using the method you want, doesn't
mean it isn't happening.

Please read the following
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...d-restore.aspx


But is it smart enough to find your Outlook PST or do you once again need to know
where Outlook has squirreled it away?

To say nothing of how you find a *.PST file when Windows defaults to *hiding* the
.PST extension from you and in some versions, at least, won't even cough it up
during a search for *.PST when the extension's hidden?

I have to agree with Jimmy. I've been using computers happily enough since the
early 80s. I've written software for most of that time, either for my own use and
commercially and can navigate the file system in Windows, MSDOS, Mac and *nix more
or less proficiently. I've just begun using Outlook in the last few months and
though its great in many respects, I've found it to be the most user-hostile app
I've ever done battle with when it comes to backing up and moving its files
around, to say nothing of getting it to put the fool things where *I* want them to
go today, not where it thinks I need to put them.

It really does want a Backup or at the very least, a simple File, Save As command.

Yes, there's one of the latter on the menu. It lights up and grays out according
to no pattern that I've yet discerned. I'm sure this will all be revealed in time
too. But why should it not be simple?



 




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