OE not sending out msgs with/without attachments...

You could move the messages if you want to do that.

Or you can double click a message in Outbox and edit down the TO list to
what your ISP will allow and then send that.

The issue is that whenever you do a send, OE tries to send whatever is
still in the Outbox. And if the server rejects the message, OE leaves
the message there and tries to send it again next time. So you either
need to fix the message to something the server will accept or get it
out of the Outbox.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Adela" wrote in message
...
Thanks Michael for explaining. Now I know what to do, but instead of
deleting them, will I get the same result by moving them into a
folder? I
put in a lot of work into those messages. I complained before that I
could
never catch up with all my computer work....well, now I'll either have
to put
on my monk's habit and resign to an ant's pace OR...shoot myself!
LOL! BTW,
anyone knows how to get rid of my signature here? It's too small
quarters
for the luxury of a signature....Thank you again!
--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not
made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for
men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"Michael Santovec" wrote:

You'll need to go into your Outbox folder and delete any messages
with
too many recipients. As long as the messages are there, OE will try
to
send them which can prevent any other messages from sending.



--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Adela" wrote in message
...
Mystery solved! Thank you Robert!! I immediately stopped my popup
blocker
temporarily and...the new thread OPENED! So sorry I forgot to show
my
data
probably because I'm upset for having "hijacked" someone. Here it
is:

winXP Pro; OE 6.0; IE 6.0; Dell Dimension XPS T450MHz Pentium III;
Norton
AV; Google toolbar...when it doesn't disappear! (Don't need XPpro,
last
techi installed & charged accordingly)

NOTE: I copied below your last msg (wonder why the system didn't do
it?

I came to THIS forum because my servers said it's Outlook Express'
fault
after they tested ok the cable modem, email properties, etc., and I
couldn't
find any especially OE forum.

MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been
sending out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months!
They
stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about
EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject
'Fw:
BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE
CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP,
Server
Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.', Port: 25, Secure(SSL):
No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230
recipients. I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg
doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be
up
to 400"
or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400,
yet
my 230
or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've
changed
it!!!
I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's
impossible
to
contact direclty Microsoft.

Thank you Frank. I tried first to send ONLY ONE msg with ONLY 100 recipients
(because the server tells me I'm allowed 300 recipients per message per hour)
and it didn't send it out the entire day! I tried it again and the same
thing. Then, instead of wasting time trying less recipients, I called them,
AGAIN, and they refused to let me speak to a supervisor saying he'll tell me
the same thing and they are all busy. She said if I pay for a program I'll
be able to send more, but I don't trust them at all and so I told her. She
then went to TEST something and said the results show that it's not the
server but OE because my msgs don't even leave OE in order to reach the
server, and that I should take it up with OE. Problem is OE is MS and
there's no way to communicate with them unless you pay them. This is a catch
22. My 2 other identities are sending out ok but, it's because I send just a
few...Could it be that whatever it is affects only one identity? Only God
knows!

I'm trying to explore other ISPs. Someone recommended to me a free one:
list.riseup.net, do you or anyone else here know whether it 's a good one?
I'll also try Eudora and Thunderbird (or Thunderbolt?).

I'm at the end of the rope and I feel my servers will send me to the
hospital! But I wonder, if it's true that it's OE's fault, is there anyway
at all to speak with OE tech without having to pay? Adela
--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

"Adela" wrote in message
...
"It's not Microsoft's message. It's coming from your ISP's server.
Ask them what their policies are regarding bulk sending of E-mail."

Oh no! That server of mine, all of them, whoever answers my long waited
call, that it's not the server's fault. What a bunch of irresponsible
creatures, aren't they??? Or...they just don't know their stuff! Thank
you
Robert! Adela


Ask to talk to their boss. They almost certainly do have a limit and should
be able to tell you.

]Alternatively, Reduce the number of recipients and see if that goes. I
would try 25 and if that didn't work try 10. If that doesn't work they're
being ridiculous. If the mail is through your ISP find another ISP.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

Just reporting that I tried sending one only msg with 25 recipients...and
it's still waiting in the outbox. This leads me to believe that perhaps the
server is right and that there's something wrong with OE. I only wish I knew
what it is and how to solve it...

Thanks so much for any suggestions anyone? Adela
--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

"Adela" wrote in message
...
"It's not Microsoft's message. It's coming from your ISP's server.
Ask them what their policies are regarding bulk sending of E-mail."

Oh no! That server of mine, all of them, whoever answers my long waited
call, that it's not the server's fault. What a bunch of irresponsible
creatures, aren't they??? Or...they just don't know their stuff! Thank
you
Robert! Adela


Ask to talk to their boss. They almost certainly do have a limit and should
be able to tell you.

]Alternatively, Reduce the number of recipients and see if that goes. I
would try 25 and if that didn't work try 10. If that doesn't work they're
being ridiculous. If the mail is through your ISP find another ISP.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

"Adela" wrote in message
...
Just reporting that I tried sending one only msg with 25 recipients...and
it's still waiting in the outbox. This leads me to believe that perhaps the
server is right and that there's something wrong with OE. I only wish I knew
what it is and how to solve it...

Thanks so much for any suggestions anyone? Adela

The problem remains exactly the same: you are trying to send a message to TOO
MANY RECIPIENTS. You've tried 100, and it failed. You've tried 25, and it
failed. Have you tried sending to only 20? If that fails then try 15. If that
fails try 10.

Your ISP support line is telling you nonsense. The error message you reported
here is the error message given by THEIR server to OE. It is not a problem in
OE. It is the limit imposed on the server.

--
Tom Koch, former MVP for IE/Outlook Express 1997-2005
http://www.insideoe.com
Awareness is free.

Thanks Tom, but if I continue to try until it gets to 0 recipients, then this
server doesn't serve to me (pun intended!) because they told me I'm allowed
to send out 300 recipients per hour, yet, the maximum number of my list is
only 237.

But the 300 recipients allowed are per hour (not per message as I
erroneously said previously), including any other messages I send from the
other identities.

If you think that's my server and not OE then they are a bunch of mafiosos!
I'll make a last attempt to try to speak with a supervisor today. I find
this totally unacceptable and am exploring other ISPs, maybe listserv
servers?. Adela
--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"Tom Koch" wrote:

"Adela" wrote in message
...
Just reporting that I tried sending one only msg with 25 recipients...and
it's still waiting in the outbox. This leads me to believe that perhaps the
server is right and that there's something wrong with OE. I only wish I knew
what it is and how to solve it...

Thanks so much for any suggestions anyone? Adela

The problem remains exactly the same: you are trying to send a message to TOO
MANY RECIPIENTS. You've tried 100, and it failed. You've tried 25, and it
failed. Have you tried sending to only 20? If that fails then try 15. If that
fails try 10.

Your ISP support line is telling you nonsense. The error message you reported
here is the error message given by THEIR server to OE. It is not a problem in
OE. It is the limit imposed on the server.

--
Tom Koch, former MVP for IE/Outlook Express 1997-2005
http://www.insideoe.com
Awareness is free.

"Adela" wrote in message
...
If you think that's my server and not OE then they are a bunch of mafiosos!

I *know* it is your mail server and not OE. Only a mail server reports the
error message that OE displayed. Are they a bunch of mafiosos? Not really. My
ISP is rated the best in the Netherlands but it has a limit of 20 per recipient
on any one message. It is fairly standard these days as ISPs try to prevent
their customers from spamming others.

I'll make a last attempt to try to speak with a supervisor today. I find
this totally unacceptable and am exploring other ISPs, maybe listserv
servers?. Adela

Do you send out bulk email regularly? If so you might consider a paid service
for just that purpose. I used www.mailermailer.com for that, and it worked very
well for a reasonable price of $29/month. Such a service had an added advantage
of automatic removals if an address bounces too many times.

You might also consider a good web hosting company that includes mail lists.
One host I use with that is www.dreamhost.com. Even the basic account includes
mail lists.

--
Tom Koch, former MVP for IE/Outlook Express 1997-2005
http://www.insideoe.com
Awareness is free.

300 messages per hour and the number of addresses on one email can be two
different limits.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Adela" wrote in message
...
: Thanks Tom, but if I continue to try until it gets to 0 recipients, then
this
: server doesn't serve to me (pun intended!) because they told me I'm
allowed
: to send out 300 recipients per hour, yet, the maximum number of my list is
: only 237.
:
: But the 300 recipients allowed are per hour (not per message as I
: erroneously said previously), including any other messages I send from the
: other identities.
:
: If you think that's my server and not OE then they are a bunch of
mafiosos!
: I'll make a last attempt to try to speak with a supervisor today. I find
: this totally unacceptable and am exploring other ISPs, maybe listserv
: servers?. Adela
: --
: The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made
for
: humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
: Alice Walker "The Color Purple"
:
:
:
:
: "Tom Koch" wrote:
:
: "Adela" wrote in message
: ...
: Just reporting that I tried sending one only msg with 25
recipients...and
: it's still waiting in the outbox. This leads me to believe that
perhaps the
: server is right and that there's something wrong with OE. I only wish
I knew
: what it is and how to solve it...
:
: Thanks so much for any suggestions anyone? Adela
:
: The problem remains exactly the same: you are trying to send a message
to TOO
: MANY RECIPIENTS. You've tried 100, and it failed. You've tried 25, and
it
: failed. Have you tried sending to only 20? If that fails then try 15. If
that
: fails try 10.
:
: Your ISP support line is telling you nonsense. The error message you
reported
: here is the error message given by THEIR server to OE. It is not a
problem in
: OE. It is the limit imposed on the server.
:
: --
: Tom Koch, former MVP for IE/Outlook Express 1997-2005
: http://www.insideoe.com
: Awareness is free.
:
:

Hi Ron and thanks for more input! This matter has made me so dizzy and sick
that again I must correct myself: what my server told me last night was that
I'm allowed 300 "RECIPIENTS" (not "msgs" as I erroneously said) per hour, and
also NOT per msg; including any recipients I may send out to, from my other
identities. So this is even MORE restrictive than I ever thought before. I
still feel they are a bunch of exploitative mafiosos. Especially because
they wash their hands and blame OE...People like I, who consider all that
technical lexicon...Chinese, are subjected to HAVE to believe them... I see
it's a lost cause and, as mentioned, I'll redirect my energies now to finding
another ISP to send out to my meager 237 recipients, which now that I now I
have to include my other identities), will become close to 500!

Was told to try this ISP: http://lists.riseup.net, and I think I'll go and
see if I can do it. From the few segments I read, it says they can send up
to 250,000 - that's exorbitant and I wonder if I understood it correctly! As
I said...this all is Chinese to me!

Thanks again, Ron. Adela

P.S. Anyone knows how I can delete my signature here? thanks.
--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"Ron Sommer" wrote:

300 messages per hour and the number of addresses on one email can be two
different limits.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Adela" wrote in message
...
: Thanks Tom, but if I continue to try until it gets to 0 recipients, then
this
: server doesn't serve to me (pun intended!) because they told me I'm
allowed
: to send out 300 recipients per hour, yet, the maximum number of my list is
: only 237.
:
: But the 300 recipients allowed are per hour (not per message as I
: erroneously said previously), including any other messages I send from the
: other identities.
:
: If you think that's my server and not OE then they are a bunch of
mafiosos!
: I'll make a last attempt to try to speak with a supervisor today. I find
: this totally unacceptable and am exploring other ISPs, maybe listserv
: servers?. Adela
: --
: The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made
for
: humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
: Alice Walker "The Color Purple"
:
:
:
:
: "Tom Koch" wrote:
:
: "Adela" wrote in message
: ...
: Just reporting that I tried sending one only msg with 25
recipients...and
: it's still waiting in the outbox. This leads me to believe that
perhaps the
: server is right and that there's something wrong with OE. I only wish
I knew
: what it is and how to solve it...
:
: Thanks so much for any suggestions anyone? Adela
:
: The problem remains exactly the same: you are trying to send a message
to TOO
: MANY RECIPIENTS. You've tried 100, and it failed. You've tried 25, and
it
: failed. Have you tried sending to only 20? If that fails then try 15. If
that
: fails try 10.
:
: Your ISP support line is telling you nonsense. The error message you
reported
: here is the error message given by THEIR server to OE. It is not a
problem in
: OE. It is the limit imposed on the server.
:
: --
: Tom Koch, former MVP for IE/Outlook Express 1997-2005
: http://www.insideoe.com
: Awareness is free.
:
:

the results show that it's not the server but OE because my msgs don't
even leave OE in order to reach the server

Tell us this: Do the messages never leave your Outbox? Do copies of
messages never show up in Sent Items?
--
~PA Bear


Adela wrote:
Thank you Frank. I tried first to send ONLY ONE msg with ONLY 100
recipients (because the server tells me I'm allowed 300 recipients per
message per hour) and it didn't send it out the entire day! I tried it
again and the same thing. Then, instead of wasting time trying less
recipients, I called them, AGAIN, and they refused to let me speak to a
supervisor saying he'll tell me the same thing and they are all busy. She
said if I pay for a program I'll be able to send more, but I don't trust
them at all and so I told her. She then went to TEST something and said
the results show that it's not the server but OE because my msgs don't
even leave OE in order to reach the server, and that I should take it up
with OE. Problem is OE is MS and there's no way to communicate with them
unless you pay them. This is a catch
22. My 2 other identities are sending out ok but, it's because I send
just
a few...Could it be that whatever it is affects only one identity? Only
God
knows!

I'm trying to explore other ISPs. Someone recommended to me a free one:
list.riseup.net, do you or anyone else here know whether it 's a good one?
I'll also try Eudora and Thunderbird (or Thunderbolt?).

I'm at the end of the rope and I feel my servers will send me to the
hospital! But I wonder, if it's true that it's OE's fault, is there
anyway
at all to speak with OE tech without having to pay? Adela

"Adela" wrote in message
...
"It's not Microsoft's message. It's coming from your ISP's server.
Ask them what their policies are regarding bulk sending of E-mail."

Oh no! That server of mine, all of them, whoever answers my long waited
call, that it's not the server's fault. What a bunch of irresponsible
creatures, aren't they??? Or...they just don't know their stuff! Thank
you
Robert! Adela


Ask to talk to their boss. They almost certainly do have a limit and
should be able to tell you.

]Alternatively, Reduce the number of recipients and see if that goes. I
would try 25 and if that didn't work try 10. If that doesn't work
they're
being ridiculous. If the mail is through your ISP find another ISP.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.

"Adela" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Thank you Frank. I tried first to send ONLY ONE msg with ONLY 100
recipients
(because the server tells me I'm allowed 300 recipients per message per
hour)
and it didn't send it out the entire day! I tried it again and the same
thing. Then, instead of wasting time trying less recipients, I called
them,
AGAIN, and they refused to let me speak to a supervisor saying he'll tell
me
the same thing and they are all busy. She said if I pay for a program
I'll
be able to send more, but I don't trust them at all and so I told her.
She
then went to TEST something and said the results show that it's not the
server but OE because my msgs don't even leave OE in order to reach the
server, and that I should take it up with OE. Problem is OE is MS and
there's no way to communicate with them unless you pay them. This is a
catch
22. My 2 other identities are sending out ok but, it's because I send
just a
few...Could it be that whatever it is affects only one identity? Only God
knows!

I'm trying to explore other ISPs. Someone recommended to me a free one:
list.riseup.net, do you or anyone else here know whether it 's a good one?
I'll also try Eudora and Thunderbird (or Thunderbolt?).

I'm at the end of the rope and I feel my servers will send me to the
hospital! But I wonder, if it's true that it's OE's fault, is there
anyway
at all to speak with OE tech without having to pay? Adela
--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made
for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

"Adela" wrote in message
...
"It's not Microsoft's message. It's coming from your ISP's server.
Ask them what their policies are regarding bulk sending of E-mail."

Oh no! That server of mine, all of them, whoever answers my long
waited
call, that it's not the server's fault. What a bunch of irresponsible
creatures, aren't they??? Or...they just don't know their stuff!
Thank
you
Robert! Adela


Ask to talk to their boss. They almost certainly do have a limit and
should
be able to tell you.

]Alternatively, Reduce the number of recipients and see if that goes. I
would try 25 and if that didn't work try 10. If that doesn't work
they're
being ridiculous. If the mail is through your ISP find another ISP.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.