OE not sending out msgs with/without attachments...

Mystery solved! Thank you Robert!! I immediately stopped my popup blocker
temporarily and...the new thread OPENED! So sorry I forgot to show my data
probably because I'm upset for having "hijacked" someone. Here it is:

winXP Pro; OE 6.0; IE 6.0; Dell Dimension XPS T450MHz Pentium III; Norton
AV; Google toolbar...when it doesn't disappear! (Don't need XPpro, last
techi installed & charged accordingly)

NOTE: I copied below your last msg (wonder why the system didn't do it?

I came to THIS forum because my servers said it's Outlook Express' fault
after they tested ok the cable modem, email properties, etc., and I couldn't
find any especially OE forum.

MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been sending out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months! They stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject 'Fw: BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230 recipients. I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be up to 400"
or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400, yet my 230
or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've changed it!!!
I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's impossible to
contact direclty Microsoft.

I apologize again for the hijacking, and thanks ever so much for any
suggestions to this complicated problem! Adela


I COPIED YOUR MSG HE
Yes. On the "MS Communities web interface to Newsgroups"
E.g. on the web page that you are still using to send replies with. ; )
If you ever want to start your own discussion, instead of hijacking
someone else's thread, using that site, click on New [Start a new thread],
and wait for a small dropdown menu to appear there.
That's what it looks like but it's really implemented by a tiny popup window.
Hence, if you have popup blockers active you may only be able
to see that menu if you make sure that the popup blockers allow it.

And please explain this too: "Alternatively modify the popup blocker to
allow popups from that site." Do you mean to enable again the popup
function (if I had it and had it disabled)?

Are you saying you still don't see the New button's menu
after disabling *all* your popup blockers? Did you try using Ctrl- Click
(e.g. with IE6sp2) or Ctrl+Alt- (with IE7) just in case it is still
active?

Hmm... I just tried changing IE7's popup blocker to High level and found
that the New menu *still* appears, so perhaps that isn't the implementation
after all.

BTW I just noticed that you haven't disclosed *any* information about
either your OS or your browser so I may be wasting my time guessing
about this. E.g. if you're not using IE as your browser when posting
or you're not allowing Scripting and ActiveX controls you would also
have difficulty using the site.



--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"

Most ISPs limit the number of recipients of one (1) message to 50, 25 or
less, Adela.

Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.'

452 isn't pointing to the number of recipients.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)


Adela wrote:
snippage
MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been sending
out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months! They stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about
EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject 'Fw:
BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230 recipients.
I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be up to
400" or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400, yet
my 230 or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've
changed it!!! I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's
impossible to contact direclty Microsoft.

You'll need to go into your Outbox folder and delete any messages with
too many recipients. As long as the messages are there, OE will try to
send them which can prevent any other messages from sending.



--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Adela" wrote in message
...
Mystery solved! Thank you Robert!! I immediately stopped my popup
blocker
temporarily and...the new thread OPENED! So sorry I forgot to show my
data
probably because I'm upset for having "hijacked" someone. Here it is:

winXP Pro; OE 6.0; IE 6.0; Dell Dimension XPS T450MHz Pentium III;
Norton
AV; Google toolbar...when it doesn't disappear! (Don't need XPpro,
last
techi installed & charged accordingly)

NOTE: I copied below your last msg (wonder why the system didn't do
it?

I came to THIS forum because my servers said it's Outlook Express'
fault
after they tested ok the cable modem, email properties, etc., and I
couldn't
find any especially OE forum.

MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been
sending out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months! They
stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about
EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject 'Fw:
BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.', Port: 25, Secure(SSL):
No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230
recipients. I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg
doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be up
to 400"
or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400, yet
my 230
or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've changed
it!!!
I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's impossible
to
contact direclty Microsoft.

"Adela" wrote in message
...
Mystery solved! Thank you Robert!! I immediately stopped my popup blocker
temporarily and...the new thread OPENED! So sorry I forgot to show my data
probably because I'm upset for having "hijacked" someone. Here it is:

winXP Pro; OE 6.0; IE 6.0; Dell Dimension XPS T450MHz Pentium III; Norton
AV; Google toolbar...when it doesn't disappear! (Don't need XPpro, last
techi installed & charged accordingly)

NOTE: I copied below your last msg (wonder why the system didn't do it?


Because this is a New thread. Only Replies have something to copy.



I came to THIS forum because my servers said it's Outlook Express' fault
after they tested ok the cable modem, email properties, etc., and I couldn't
find any especially OE forum.

MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been sending out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months! They stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject 'Fw: BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230 recipients. I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be up to 400"
or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400, yet my 230
or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've changed it!!!
I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's impossible to
contact direclty Microsoft.


It's not Microsoft's message. It's coming from your ISP's server.
Ask them what their policies are regarding bulk sending of E-mail.




I apologize again for the hijacking, and thanks ever so much for any
suggestions to this complicated problem! Adela


HTH

Robert
---

Thank you Pa Bear for explaining...howdo groups and corporations manage to
send out theirlists of thousands each???

Is there any other email program that would accept the so-called mass
mailing (I don't consider 230 a mass mailing!). Someone told me that Yahoo
does but the person didn't give me the details. Please do let me know if
there's a way, any way to send them at one time? If I follow my server's
rules...I'll have to put in double and more time each time I want to send,
because, even at a 100 per hour, I'll have to be glued to the computer to do
it.

Thanks so much for any suggestions. Adela

--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"PA Bear" wrote:

Most ISPs limit the number of recipients of one (1) message to 50, 25 or
less, Adela.

Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.'

452 isn't pointing to the number of recipients.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)


Adela wrote:
snippage
MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been sending
out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months! They stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about
EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject 'Fw:
BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230 recipients.
I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be up to
400" or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400, yet
my 230 or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've
changed it!!! I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's
impossible to contact direclty Microsoft.

Thanks Michael for explaining. Now I know what to do, but instead of
deleting them, will I get the same result by moving them into a folder? I
put in a lot of work into those messages. I complained before that I could
never catch up with all my computer work....well, now I'll either have to put
on my monk's habit and resign to an ant's pace OR...shoot myself! LOL! BTW,
anyone knows how to get rid of my signature here? It's too small quarters
for the luxury of a signature....Thank you again!
--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"Michael Santovec" wrote:

You'll need to go into your Outbox folder and delete any messages with
too many recipients. As long as the messages are there, OE will try to
send them which can prevent any other messages from sending.



--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Adela" wrote in message
...
Mystery solved! Thank you Robert!! I immediately stopped my popup
blocker
temporarily and...the new thread OPENED! So sorry I forgot to show my
data
probably because I'm upset for having "hijacked" someone. Here it is:

winXP Pro; OE 6.0; IE 6.0; Dell Dimension XPS T450MHz Pentium III;
Norton
AV; Google toolbar...when it doesn't disappear! (Don't need XPpro,
last
techi installed & charged accordingly)

NOTE: I copied below your last msg (wonder why the system didn't do
it?

I came to THIS forum because my servers said it's Outlook Express'
fault
after they tested ok the cable modem, email properties, etc., and I
couldn't
find any especially OE forum.

MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been
sending out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months! They
stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about
EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject 'Fw:
BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.', Port: 25, Secure(SSL):
No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230
recipients. I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg
doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be up
to 400"
or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400, yet
my 230
or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've changed
it!!!
I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's impossible
to
contact direclty Microsoft.

"It's not Microsoft's message. It's coming from your ISP's server.
Ask them what their policies are regarding bulk sending of E-mail."

Oh no! That server of mine, all of them, whoever answers my long waited
call, that it's not the server's fault. What a bunch of irresponsible
creatures, aren't they??? Or...they just don't know their stuff! Thank you
Robert! Adela
--
The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for
humans any more than black people were made for whites, or women for men.
Alice Walker "The Color Purple"




"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

"Adela" wrote in message
...
Mystery solved! Thank you Robert!! I immediately stopped my popup blocker
temporarily and...the new thread OPENED! So sorry I forgot to show my data
probably because I'm upset for having "hijacked" someone. Here it is:

winXP Pro; OE 6.0; IE 6.0; Dell Dimension XPS T450MHz Pentium III; Norton
AV; Google toolbar...when it doesn't disappear! (Don't need XPpro, last
techi installed & charged accordingly)

NOTE: I copied below your last msg (wonder why the system didn't do it?


Because this is a New thread. Only Replies have something to copy.



I came to THIS forum because my servers said it's Outlook Express' fault
after they tested ok the cable modem, email properties, etc., and I couldn't
find any especially OE forum.

MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been sending out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months! They stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject 'Fw: BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230 recipients. I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be up to 400"
or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400, yet my 230
or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've changed it!!!
I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's impossible to
contact direclty Microsoft.


It's not Microsoft's message. It's coming from your ISP's server.
Ask them what their policies are regarding bulk sending of E-mail.




I apologize again for the hijacking, and thanks ever so much for any
suggestions to this complicated problem! Adela


HTH

Robert
---

Companies and groups either operate their own servers or make arrangements
with ISPs who will allow them unlimitied sending. The email client has
nothing to do with this. It's entirely controlled by the server. If you
have a legitimate need to send messages to many recipients, you may be
able to make special arrangements with your ISP. There are programs that
will automatically send many messages to a single recipient each instead
of one message to many recipients, but many ISPs forbid their use and will
cancel your account if you do so because these programs are very effective
spamming tools.


Adela wrote:
Thank you Pa Bear for explaining...howdo groups and corporations manage to
send out theirlists of thousands each???

Is there any other email program that would accept the so-called mass
mailing (I don't consider 230 a mass mailing!). Someone told me that Yahoo
does but the person didn't give me the details. Please do let me know if
there's a way, any way to send them at one time? If I follow my server's
rules...I'll have to put in double and more time each time I want to send,
because, even at a 100 per hour, I'll have to be glued to the computer to do
it.

Thanks so much for any suggestions. Adela

--
Gary L. Smith
Columbus, Ohio

How to create a Mail Merge
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/MailMe...AMailMerge.htm

Using Mail Merge to send the messages, separate messages are sent to each
addressee (vs one message to all of them).
--
~PA Bear


Adela wrote:
Thank you Pa Bear for explaining...howdo groups and corporations manage
to
send out theirlists of thousands each???

Is there any other email program that would accept the so-called mass
mailing (I don't consider 230 a mass mailing!). Someone told me that
Yahoo
does but the person didn't give me the details. Please do let me know if
there's a way, any way to send them at one time? If I follow my server's
rules...I'll have to put in double and more time each time I want to send,
because, even at a 100 per hour, I'll have to be glued to the computer to
do
it.

Thanks so much for any suggestions. Adela


Most ISPs limit the number of recipients of one (1) message to 50, 25 or
less, Adela.

Response: '452 #4.5.3 Too many recipients.'

452 isn't pointing to the number of recipients.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)


Adela wrote:
snippage
MY ORIGINAL PROBLEM: At least one of my 3 identities hasn't been sending
out
msgs at all with or without attachments for the last 2 months! They
stay
forever in the outbox. I've been at forums and tried just about
EVERYTHING!
I get this error msg:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was
rejected
by the server. The rejected e-mail address was @cs.com'. Subject 'Fw:
BRAVO
JILL ROBINSON for GREAT SYMPOSIUM to HELP CHINESE CATS/DOGS!!!!!!!!!',
Account: 'pop.rcn.com', Server: 'smtp.rcn.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server
, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No,
Server Error: 452, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

It says "452 too many" but my biggest emailing is of only 230
recipients.
I
split this amount but I got same error. The first part of the msg
doesn't
apply. The earlier error msgs 0x800CCC79 included this "should be up to
400" or something to that effect, which means they allowed up to 400,
yet
my 230 or even half of it didn't get sent out either. Seems they've
changed it!!! I'm very puzzled and no one is taking responsibility It's
impossible to contact direclty Microsoft.

"Adela" wrote in message
...
"It's not Microsoft's message. It's coming from your ISP's server.
Ask them what their policies are regarding bulk sending of E-mail."

Oh no! That server of mine, all of them, whoever answers my long waited
call, that it's not the server's fault. What a bunch of irresponsible
creatures, aren't they??? Or...they just don't know their stuff! Thank
you
Robert! Adela


Ask to talk to their boss. They almost certainly do have a limit and should
be able to tell you.

]Alternatively, Reduce the number of recipients and see if that goes. I
would try 25 and if that didn't work try 10. If that doesn't work they're
being ridiculous. If the mail is through your ISP find another ISP.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.