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  #11  
Old September 29th, 2009, 09:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Andy Smith
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 62
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H

Great -- I submitted the report for 2007 under the assumption it's a bug
there too. I also rated Yes your two posts which told me about Ignore Master
Page and feedback.office.microsoft.com.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

There is a feedback option here
https://feedback.office.microsoft.co...ice2007&scrx=1

The Connect site is busily Beta testing 2010, I couldn't find the feedback link.
I think all the bug feedbacks for Office 2007 is closed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, I signed in. There are some Publisher bugs, but it doesn't show what
Connection they're on. In the Office category there's nothing to do with
Publisher, or Word, or Excel, or Access, or Powerpoint. I pull down Add New
Connection and it does nothing. And there's no link to create any message
anywhere. All I can do is read stuff.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Connect is the bug reporting place.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
No, but I'm signed in to MSDN. Once I get one, then what -- does this lead
to bug-reporting?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Do you have a Live password?

https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/?wa=wsignin1.0

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, page by page I can tell it to ignore the master, so when I do that
on
pages 1 and 4 no H/F's appear.

But my point is, I've found a BUG. I shouldn't have to do Ignore Master
Page when I've already UNchecked the Show-H/F's-On-First-Page checkbox
on
each of the two sections, whose first pages are 1 and 4. Again, the
screen
is correct, but the printout is not.

*** This is a BUG. It should be reported. How do I report this? ***

Here's the pub:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

There is no Ignore Master Page setting on any page, so you can see the
BUG.

--
* Please click Yes if this was helpful *
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

What happens if you View, check *Ignore Master page?*

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
That takes care of page 4 -- should I have a third master just for
page
1?

The bottom line is, the display is what I want, but the printout
isn't,
and
that's a bug. Do you know how/where/to whom to report it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

With your scenario you should apply a created Master Page B to page
4.
There
should be no page number visible nor should it print. Sections are
not
necessary
in a four page booklet.

You can send me your publication.
mary-sauer at columbus.rr.com

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
I have a four-page book-layout document, which therefore prints on
two
sides
of one piece of paper, which I then fold in half. It has one
two-page
master
with facing headers and footers, and two sections, the second
beginning
on
page 4, the last page.

In both sections I have UNchecked the box saying "Show headers and
footers
in the first page", because the first page is the front cover, and
the
fourth
page is the back cover. When I click the four page icons in the
lower
left,
the screen correctly shows page 1 without H/F's, then pages 2-3
with
properly
facing H/Fs, then page 4 blank.

However, when I print it, H/F's appear on all four pages. This is
neither
WYSIWYG nor WYSIWYW (what you see is what you Want).

*** This is a BUG, Redmond! ***

Has anyone else seen this? And how do I report it to Microsoft?
I'll
send
this book to anyone interested -- it's written and illustrated by
my
six-year-old daughter, so it's not exactly copyrighted material
full
of
company or government secrets...

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC
















  #12  
Old September 30th, 2009, 04:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Rob Giordano [MS MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 414
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H

once you bug it, post the bug link here and others that can reproduce it
will confirm the bug.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression Web






"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
Great -- I submitted the report for 2007 under the assumption it's a bug
there too. I also rated Yes your two posts which told me about Ignore
Master
Page and feedback.office.microsoft.com.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

There is a feedback option here
https://feedback.office.microsoft.co...ice2007&scrx=1

The Connect site is busily Beta testing 2010, I couldn't find the
feedback link.
I think all the bug feedbacks for Office 2007 is closed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, I signed in. There are some Publisher bugs, but it doesn't show
what
Connection they're on. In the Office category there's nothing to do
with
Publisher, or Word, or Excel, or Access, or Powerpoint. I pull down
Add New
Connection and it does nothing. And there's no link to create any
message
anywhere. All I can do is read stuff.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Connect is the bug reporting place.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
No, but I'm signed in to MSDN. Once I get one, then what -- does
this lead
to bug-reporting?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Do you have a Live password?

https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/?wa=wsignin1.0

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, page by page I can tell it to ignore the master, so when I do
that
on
pages 1 and 4 no H/F's appear.

But my point is, I've found a BUG. I shouldn't have to do Ignore
Master
Page when I've already UNchecked the Show-H/F's-On-First-Page
checkbox
on
each of the two sections, whose first pages are 1 and 4. Again,
the
screen
is correct, but the printout is not.

*** This is a BUG. It should be reported. How do I report this?
***

Here's the pub:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

There is no Ignore Master Page setting on any page, so you can
see the
BUG.

--
* Please click Yes if this was helpful *
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

What happens if you View, check *Ignore Master page?*

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
That takes care of page 4 -- should I have a third master just
for
page
1?

The bottom line is, the display is what I want, but the
printout
isn't,
and
that's a bug. Do you know how/where/to whom to report it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

With your scenario you should apply a created Master Page B
to page
4.
There
should be no page number visible nor should it print.
Sections are
not
necessary
in a four page booklet.

You can send me your publication.
mary-sauer at columbus.rr.com

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
I have a four-page book-layout document, which therefore
prints on
two
sides
of one piece of paper, which I then fold in half. It has
one
two-page
master
with facing headers and footers, and two sections, the
second
beginning
on
page 4, the last page.

In both sections I have UNchecked the box saying "Show
headers and
footers
in the first page", because the first page is the front
cover, and
the
fourth
page is the back cover. When I click the four page icons
in the
lower
left,
the screen correctly shows page 1 without H/F's, then pages
2-3
with
properly
facing H/Fs, then page 4 blank.

However, when I print it, H/F's appear on all four pages.
This is
neither
WYSIWYG nor WYSIWYW (what you see is what you Want).

*** This is a BUG, Redmond! ***

Has anyone else seen this? And how do I report it to
Microsoft?
I'll
send
this book to anyone interested -- it's written and
illustrated by
my
six-year-old daughter, so it's not exactly copyrighted
material
full
of
company or government secrets...

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC

















  #13  
Old September 30th, 2009, 06:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Andy Smith
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 62
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H

It's not there! I searched for all the keywords I could think of: "headers"
"footers" "suppress" "all four pages", "robynleesmith", etc., etc.

I had copied and pasted my original post here when I submitted the feedback
-- it's simply not there. I'm going to do it again, but if you want to
confirm the bug, please see the links below. Easiest is to open the pub,
view it on the screen, then print to a PDF.

Here's the pub: http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF: http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Rob Giordano [MS MVP]" wrote:

once you bug it, post the bug link here and others that can reproduce it
will confirm the bug.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression Web






"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
Great -- I submitted the report for 2007 under the assumption it's a bug
there too. I also rated Yes your two posts which told me about Ignore
Master
Page and feedback.office.microsoft.com.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

There is a feedback option here
https://feedback.office.microsoft.co...ice2007&scrx=1

The Connect site is busily Beta testing 2010, I couldn't find the
feedback link.
I think all the bug feedbacks for Office 2007 is closed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, I signed in. There are some Publisher bugs, but it doesn't show
what
Connection they're on. In the Office category there's nothing to do
with
Publisher, or Word, or Excel, or Access, or Powerpoint. I pull down
Add New
Connection and it does nothing. And there's no link to create any
message
anywhere. All I can do is read stuff.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Connect is the bug reporting place.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
No, but I'm signed in to MSDN. Once I get one, then what -- does
this lead
to bug-reporting?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Do you have a Live password?

https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/?wa=wsignin1.0

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, page by page I can tell it to ignore the master, so when I do
that
on
pages 1 and 4 no H/F's appear.

But my point is, I've found a BUG. I shouldn't have to do Ignore
Master
Page when I've already UNchecked the Show-H/F's-On-First-Page
checkbox
on
each of the two sections, whose first pages are 1 and 4. Again,
the
screen
is correct, but the printout is not.

*** This is a BUG. It should be reported. How do I report this?
***

Here's the pub:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

There is no Ignore Master Page setting on any page, so you can
see the
BUG.

--
* Please click Yes if this was helpful *
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

What happens if you View, check *Ignore Master page?*

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
That takes care of page 4 -- should I have a third master just
for
page
1?

The bottom line is, the display is what I want, but the
printout
isn't,
and
that's a bug. Do you know how/where/to whom to report it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

With your scenario you should apply a created Master Page B
to page
4.
There
should be no page number visible nor should it print.
Sections are
not
necessary
in a four page booklet.

You can send me your publication.
mary-sauer at columbus.rr.com

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
I have a four-page book-layout document, which therefore
prints on
two
sides
of one piece of paper, which I then fold in half. It has
one
two-page
master
with facing headers and footers, and two sections, the
second
beginning
on
page 4, the last page.

In both sections I have UNchecked the box saying "Show
headers and
footers
in the first page", because the first page is the front
cover, and
the
fourth
page is the back cover. When I click the four page icons
in the
lower
left,
the screen correctly shows page 1 without H/F's, then pages
2-3
with
properly
facing H/Fs, then page 4 blank.

However, when I print it, H/F's appear on all four pages.
This is
neither
WYSIWYG nor WYSIWYW (what you see is what you Want).

*** This is a BUG, Redmond! ***

Has anyone else seen this? And how do I report it to
Microsoft?
I'll
send
this book to anyone interested -- it's written and
illustrated by
my
six-year-old daughter, so it's not exactly copyrighted
material
full
of
company or government secrets...

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC

















  #14  
Old September 30th, 2009, 11:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Mary Sauer[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,082
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H

I took a look at your publication. The problem seems to be the "Dancing Fairies"
across the top. You are putting the phrase on the Master Page along with the
page numbers. If you simply used your Dancing Fairies phrase without the page
numbers you'd have your correct print. Use two Master Pages, one for the cover &
back and the other for the center pages.

In earlier versions of Publisher we didn't have the luxury of multiple master
pages. We always advise creating a line-less white box over the page numbers
that didn't need printed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
It's not there! I searched for all the keywords I could think of: "headers"
"footers" "suppress" "all four pages", "robynleesmith", etc., etc.

I had copied and pasted my original post here when I submitted the feedback
-- it's simply not there. I'm going to do it again, but if you want to
confirm the bug, please see the links below. Easiest is to open the pub,
view it on the screen, then print to a PDF.

Here's the pub: http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF: http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Rob Giordano [MS MVP]" wrote:

once you bug it, post the bug link here and others that can reproduce it
will confirm the bug.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression Web






"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
Great -- I submitted the report for 2007 under the assumption it's a bug
there too. I also rated Yes your two posts which told me about Ignore
Master
Page and feedback.office.microsoft.com.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

There is a feedback option here
https://feedback.office.microsoft.co...ice2007&scrx=1

The Connect site is busily Beta testing 2010, I couldn't find the
feedback link.
I think all the bug feedbacks for Office 2007 is closed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, I signed in. There are some Publisher bugs, but it doesn't show
what
Connection they're on. In the Office category there's nothing to do
with
Publisher, or Word, or Excel, or Access, or Powerpoint. I pull down
Add New
Connection and it does nothing. And there's no link to create any
message
anywhere. All I can do is read stuff.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Connect is the bug reporting place.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
No, but I'm signed in to MSDN. Once I get one, then what -- does
this lead
to bug-reporting?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Do you have a Live password?

https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/?wa=wsignin1.0

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, page by page I can tell it to ignore the master, so when I do
that
on
pages 1 and 4 no H/F's appear.

But my point is, I've found a BUG. I shouldn't have to do Ignore
Master
Page when I've already UNchecked the Show-H/F's-On-First-Page
checkbox
on
each of the two sections, whose first pages are 1 and 4. Again,
the
screen
is correct, but the printout is not.

*** This is a BUG. It should be reported. How do I report this?
***

Here's the pub:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

There is no Ignore Master Page setting on any page, so you can
see the
BUG.

--
* Please click Yes if this was helpful *
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

What happens if you View, check *Ignore Master page?*

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
That takes care of page 4 -- should I have a third master just
for
page
1?

The bottom line is, the display is what I want, but the
printout
isn't,
and
that's a bug. Do you know how/where/to whom to report it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

With your scenario you should apply a created Master Page B
to page
4.
There
should be no page number visible nor should it print.
Sections are
not
necessary
in a four page booklet.

You can send me your publication.
mary-sauer at columbus.rr.com

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
I have a four-page book-layout document, which therefore
prints on
two
sides
of one piece of paper, which I then fold in half. It has
one
two-page
master
with facing headers and footers, and two sections, the
second
beginning
on
page 4, the last page.

In both sections I have UNchecked the box saying "Show
headers and
footers
in the first page", because the first page is the front
cover, and
the
fourth
page is the back cover. When I click the four page icons
in the
lower
left,
the screen correctly shows page 1 without H/F's, then pages
2-3
with
properly
facing H/Fs, then page 4 blank.

However, when I print it, H/F's appear on all four pages.
This is
neither
WYSIWYG nor WYSIWYW (what you see is what you Want).

*** This is a BUG, Redmond! ***

Has anyone else seen this? And how do I report it to
Microsoft?
I'll
send
this book to anyone interested -- it's written and
illustrated by
my
six-year-old daughter, so it's not exactly copyrighted
material
full
of
company or government secrets...

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



















  #15  
Old October 1st, 2009, 04:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Andy Smith
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 62
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H/F's

OK, there are all kinds of workarounds -- including the very sloppy one
involving the white rectangle -- what if your publication's paper isn't
necessarily white, or of one color?

Never mind -- my point is, the single-master, two-section method I used,
where each section's "show H/F's on the first page" checkbox is UNchecked,
works on the screen, but not the printer. That's not WYSIWYG, and that's a
*BUG*. Fine, I can work around it, but I also want to report this *BUG* for
the benefit of others doing more serious work -- that's what a bug report is
for, and that's why I wrote the subject line as such.

I can't believe it's so hard to report bugs to Microsoft, but I've reported
this *BUG* twice at the feedback link you gave me, and I can't find either
report anywhere to give Rob Giordano the link. I have to assume this *BUG*
exists in 2007 and 2010, but I don't have either one. If you have them, and
since you've taken the trouble to look at my pub, would you kindly see if
display matches printout in each, and then would you report this *BUG* so Rob
can find it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

I took a look at your publication. The problem seems to be the "Dancing Fairies"
across the top. You are putting the phrase on the Master Page along with the
page numbers. If you simply used your Dancing Fairies phrase without the page
numbers you'd have your correct print. Use two Master Pages, one for the cover &
back and the other for the center pages.

In earlier versions of Publisher we didn't have the luxury of multiple master
pages. We always advise creating a line-less white box over the page numbers
that didn't need printed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
It's not there! I searched for all the keywords I could think of: "headers"
"footers" "suppress" "all four pages", "robynleesmith", etc., etc.

I had copied and pasted my original post here when I submitted the feedback
-- it's simply not there. I'm going to do it again, but if you want to
confirm the bug, please see the links below. Easiest is to open the pub,
view it on the screen, then print to a PDF.

Here's the pub: http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF: http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Rob Giordano [MS MVP]" wrote:

once you bug it, post the bug link here and others that can reproduce it
will confirm the bug.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression Web






"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
Great -- I submitted the report for 2007 under the assumption it's a bug
there too. I also rated Yes your two posts which told me about Ignore
Master
Page and feedback.office.microsoft.com.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

There is a feedback option here
https://feedback.office.microsoft.co...ice2007&scrx=1

The Connect site is busily Beta testing 2010, I couldn't find the
feedback link.
I think all the bug feedbacks for Office 2007 is closed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, I signed in. There are some Publisher bugs, but it doesn't show
what
Connection they're on. In the Office category there's nothing to do
with
Publisher, or Word, or Excel, or Access, or Powerpoint. I pull down
Add New
Connection and it does nothing. And there's no link to create any
message
anywhere. All I can do is read stuff.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Connect is the bug reporting place.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
No, but I'm signed in to MSDN. Once I get one, then what -- does
this lead
to bug-reporting?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Do you have a Live password?

https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/?wa=wsignin1.0

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, page by page I can tell it to ignore the master, so when I do
that
on
pages 1 and 4 no H/F's appear.

But my point is, I've found a BUG. I shouldn't have to do Ignore
Master
Page when I've already UNchecked the Show-H/F's-On-First-Page
checkbox
on
each of the two sections, whose first pages are 1 and 4. Again,
the
screen
is correct, but the printout is not.

*** This is a BUG. It should be reported. How do I report this?
***

Here's the pub:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

There is no Ignore Master Page setting on any page, so you can
see the
BUG.

--
* Please click Yes if this was helpful *
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

What happens if you View, check *Ignore Master page?*

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http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
That takes care of page 4 -- should I have a third master just
for
page
1?

The bottom line is, the display is what I want, but the
printout
isn't,
and
that's a bug. Do you know how/where/to whom to report it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

With your scenario you should apply a created Master Page B
to page
4.
There
should be no page number visible nor should it print.
Sections are
not
necessary
in a four page booklet.

You can send me your publication.
mary-sauer at columbus.rr.com

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
I have a four-page book-layout document, which therefore
prints on
two
sides
of one piece of paper, which I then fold in half. It has
one
two-page
master
with facing headers and footers, and two sections, the
second
beginning
on
page 4, the last page.

In both sections I have UNchecked the box saying "Show
headers and
footers
in the first page", because the first page is the front
cover, and
the
fourth
page is the back cover. When I click the four page icons
in the
lower
left,
the screen correctly shows page 1 without H/F's, then pages
2-3
with
properly
facing H/Fs, then page 4 blank.

However, when I print it, H/F's appear on all four pages.
This is
neither
WYSIWYG nor WYSIWYW (what you see is what you Want).

*** This is a BUG, Redmond! ***

Has anyone else seen this? And how do I report it to
Microsoft?
I'll
send
this book to anyone interested -- it's written and
illustrated by
my
six-year-old daughter, so it's not exactly copyrighted
material
full
of
company or government secrets...

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC




















  #16  
Old October 1st, 2009, 05:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Mary Sauer[_3_]
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Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H/F's

I probably shouldn't stay involved with this thread. I just don't believe this
is a bug. This is the way Publisher works. Anything you have on the Master page
will print, you cannot have several objects and expect only the footer or header
will print unless the objects are in the same text box. This is why two Master
pages would make your booklet look the way you want. If you must have page
numbers, insert them first, then add Dancing Fairies in the same text box.

It makes no difference what color your stock is...on the screen it is white.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, there are all kinds of workarounds -- including the very sloppy one
involving the white rectangle -- what if your publication's paper isn't
necessarily white, or of one color?

Never mind -- my point is, the single-master, two-section method I used,
where each section's "show H/F's on the first page" checkbox is UNchecked,
works on the screen, but not the printer. That's not WYSIWYG, and that's a
*BUG*. Fine, I can work around it, but I also want to report this *BUG* for
the benefit of others doing more serious work -- that's what a bug report is
for, and that's why I wrote the subject line as such.

I can't believe it's so hard to report bugs to Microsoft, but I've reported
this *BUG* twice at the feedback link you gave me, and I can't find either
report anywhere to give Rob Giordano the link. I have to assume this *BUG*
exists in 2007 and 2010, but I don't have either one. If you have them, and
since you've taken the trouble to look at my pub, would you kindly see if
display matches printout in each, and then would you report this *BUG* so Rob
can find it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

I took a look at your publication. The problem seems to be the "Dancing
Fairies"
across the top. You are putting the phrase on the Master Page along with the
page numbers. If you simply used your Dancing Fairies phrase without the page
numbers you'd have your correct print. Use two Master Pages, one for the
cover &
back and the other for the center pages.

In earlier versions of Publisher we didn't have the luxury of multiple master
pages. We always advise creating a line-less white box over the page numbers
that didn't need printed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
It's not there! I searched for all the keywords I could think of:
"headers"
"footers" "suppress" "all four pages", "robynleesmith", etc., etc.

I had copied and pasted my original post here when I submitted the feedback
-- it's simply not there. I'm going to do it again, but if you want to
confirm the bug, please see the links below. Easiest is to open the pub,
view it on the screen, then print to a PDF.

Here's the pub: http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF: http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Rob Giordano [MS MVP]" wrote:

once you bug it, post the bug link here and others that can reproduce it
will confirm the bug.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression Web






"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
Great -- I submitted the report for 2007 under the assumption it's a bug
there too. I also rated Yes your two posts which told me about Ignore
Master
Page and feedback.office.microsoft.com.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

There is a feedback option here
https://feedback.office.microsoft.co...ice2007&scrx=1

The Connect site is busily Beta testing 2010, I couldn't find the
feedback link.
I think all the bug feedbacks for Office 2007 is closed.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, I signed in. There are some Publisher bugs, but it doesn't show
what
Connection they're on. In the Office category there's nothing to do
with
Publisher, or Word, or Excel, or Access, or Powerpoint. I pull down
Add New
Connection and it does nothing. And there's no link to create any
message
anywhere. All I can do is read stuff.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Connect is the bug reporting place.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
No, but I'm signed in to MSDN. Once I get one, then what -- does
this lead
to bug-reporting?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

Do you have a Live password?

https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/?wa=wsignin1.0

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
OK, page by page I can tell it to ignore the master, so when I
do
that
on
pages 1 and 4 no H/F's appear.

But my point is, I've found a BUG. I shouldn't have to do
Ignore
Master
Page when I've already UNchecked the Show-H/F's-On-First-Page
checkbox
on
each of the two sections, whose first pages are 1 and 4.
Again,
the
screen
is correct, but the printout is not.

*** This is a BUG. It should be reported. How do I report
this?
***

Here's the pub:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pub
Here's the PDF:
http://home.comcast.net/~robynleesmi...ingFairies.pdf

There is no Ignore Master Page setting on any page, so you can
see the
BUG.

--
* Please click Yes if this was helpful *
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

What happens if you View, check *Ignore Master page?*

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
That takes care of page 4 -- should I have a third master
just
for
page
1?

The bottom line is, the display is what I want, but the
printout
isn't,
and
that's a bug. Do you know how/where/to whom to report it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

With your scenario you should apply a created Master Page B
to page
4.
There
should be no page number visible nor should it print.
Sections are
not
necessary
in a four page booklet.

You can send me your publication.
mary-sauer at columbus.rr.com

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Andy Smith" wrote in
message
...
I have a four-page book-layout document, which therefore
prints on
two
sides
of one piece of paper, which I then fold in half. It has
one
two-page
master
with facing headers and footers, and two sections, the
second
beginning
on
page 4, the last page.

In both sections I have UNchecked the box saying "Show
headers and
footers
in the first page", because the first page is the front
cover, and
the
fourth
page is the back cover. When I click the four page icons
in the
lower
left,
the screen correctly shows page 1 without H/F's, then
pages
2-3
with
properly
facing H/Fs, then page 4 blank.

However, when I print it, H/F's appear on all four pages.
This is
neither
WYSIWYG nor WYSIWYW (what you see is what you Want).

*** This is a BUG, Redmond! ***

Has anyone else seen this? And how do I report it to
Microsoft?
I'll
send
this book to anyone interested -- it's written and
illustrated by
my
six-year-old daughter, so it's not exactly copyrighted
material
full
of
company or government secrets...

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC






















  #17  
Old October 1st, 2009, 06:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
GbH
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Posts: 140
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H/F's


"Andy Smith" wrote in message
...
OK, there are all kinds of workarounds -- including the very sloppy
one
involving the white rectangle -- what if your publication's paper
isn't
necessarily white, or of one color?

Never mind -- my point is, the single-master, two-section method I
used,
where each section's "show H/F's on the first page" checkbox is
UNchecked,
works on the screen, but not the printer. That's not WYSIWYG, and
that's a
*BUG*. Fine, I can work around it, but I also want to report this
*BUG* for
the benefit of others doing more serious work -- that's what a bug
report is
for, and that's why I wrote the subject line as such.

I can't believe it's so hard to report bugs to Microsoft, but I've
reported
this *BUG* twice at the feedback link you gave me, and I can't find
either
report anywhere to give Rob Giordano the link. I have to assume this
*BUG*
exists in 2007 and 2010, but I don't have either one. If you have
them, and
since you've taken the trouble to look at my pub, would you kindly see
if
display matches printout in each, and then would you report this *BUG*
so Rob
can find it?

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC


Yes one could almost get the feeling they don't want to know about bugs!
Which is but one step from:- Our software doesn't have bugs!

Geoff
ExploitEd
--

Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could
remember the darn question


  #18  
Old October 1st, 2009, 09:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Ed Bennett
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Posts: 1,656
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st pageH/F's

Andy Smith wrote:
OK, there are all kinds of workarounds -- including the very sloppy one
involving the white rectangle -- what if your publication's paper isn't
necessarily white, or of one color?


Printers can't print white, so it doesn't matter what colour or pattern
the paper is - printing white simply prints nothing. (At least as far as
Publisher is concerned - some dye-sub printers can print white, but if
you tell Publisher to print white, even they will print nothing, since
in Publisher, "white = nothing".)

Of course, if the Master Page has colours or patterns on, then that's
different - but that was even the advice offered by the Help File back
in the day. I guess the recommendation was then to white out the entire
Master Page and copy and paste it on top of the white rectangle,
removing unwanted elements.

Fine, I can work around it, but I also want to report this *BUG* for
the benefit of others doing more serious work -- that's what a bug report is
for, and that's why I wrote the subject line as such.


This newsgroup is for support and help doing what you need to do, not
for reporting bugs. The individuals here are simply trying to help you
do what you need to do.

I can't believe it's so hard to report bugs to Microsoft,


If Microsoft opened their bug reporting channels to the world and his
wife, the vast majority of "bug"s would in fact be user error, and the
real bugs would be practically impossible to distinguish without
devoting a huge support staff to filtering through them.

--
Ed Bennett
  #19  
Old October 2nd, 2009, 05:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Mary Sauer[_3_]
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Posts: 3,082
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H

I cannot duplicate this... If I ignore the Master on the first and last page,
the print preview/print is correct. I used your file, I had to re-setup the page
as a booklet, other than that I made no changes except to check "Ignore Master"
on pages 1 and 4.
I am putting my file and PDF on a web page for you to look at.
http://msauer.mvps.org/submitted_publisher_projects.htm

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/


  #20  
Old October 2nd, 2009, 09:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.publisher
Andy Smith
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Posts: 62
Default BUG REPORT: prints, but doesn't display, suppressed 1st page H

"Ignore Master Page" is a work-around. White rectangles is a work-around.
The clearing of the sections' "Show H/F's on first page" checkboxes should
suppress H/F's from the sections' first pages. In fact it does, but only in
normal display mode.

The file as it stands displays correctly, but doesn't print or preview
correctly. It's not WYSIWYG. That's a *BUG*. Fight me all you want, but
it's a *BUG*.

--
Andy Smith
Senior Systems Analyst
Standard & Poor''s, NYC



"Mary Sauer" wrote:

I cannot duplicate this... If I ignore the Master on the first and last page,
the print preview/print is correct. I used your file, I had to re-setup the page
as a booklet, other than that I made no changes except to check "Ignore Master"
on pages 1 and 4.
I am putting my file and PDF on a web page for you to look at.
http://msauer.mvps.org/submitted_publisher_projects.htm

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/



 




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