This is absurd

One month ago the IE7 RC (release Candidate or beta) was on the same page.
You did *NOT* install the final version one month ago. It didn't exist.
Now it does.

You have to know what you are installing by reading web pages *prior* to
downloading something. Had you read the pages, you would have learned that
the software you were downloading/installing was not a final version.


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If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
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Here is the download page.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...px?mg_ID=10010

I don't see the word Beta anywhere

"Leythos" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates
and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the cleaning
crew
and the cafeteria staff.

let's get this in perspective:

1) You installed a BETA product
2) You complain when you are using your computer and it alerts you that
it's about to install updates while you are using your computer
3) The update is for a BETA product
4) Your BETA test machine doesn't perform properly

What part of BETA don't you understand - if you are not prepared to deal
with problems then don't run BETA software.

If you are prepared to deal with problems associated with BETA software
you should have posts your statements as "I've tried to install IE7 BETA
update and I'm having problems".

Your first paragraph makes you appear to be trolling.

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Danke. I wonder why it isn't a menu item or in the help index.

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"Dan" wrote in message
m:

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
What's a beta? I wasn't informed that version 7 is a beta. I was
available on the Microsoft site as the new version. No beta involved.

If you're talking about IE 7, it needs a search function for the WEB PAGE
CURRENT. I don't always want to search freekin' yahoo, I want to search
the
page I'm on somtimes.

Kerry,

There was no Beta warning when I installed V.7. I wouldn't have installed
it. If the page wasn't the same page as I posted, then it was similar. It
was on the Microsoft homepage. But regardless, what do I know? And why
does it matter that it is a beta. The update said it was a V7 update and it
installed v6. It's a little backward. I wasn't told it would do this, but
the initial message said it was an v7 update, like a simple update.


"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
The page where you downloaded your previous version of IE7 was a different
page. A month ago there were clear warnings about installing a beta
product.

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Mark A. Sam wrote:
Here is the download page.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...px?mg_ID=10010

I don't see the word Beta anywhere

"Leythos" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with
Bill Gates
and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
cleaning crew
and the cafeteria staff.

let's get this in perspective:

1) You installed a BETA product
2) You complain when you are using your computer and it alerts you
that it's about to install updates while you are using your computer
3) The update is for a BETA product
4) Your BETA test machine doesn't perform properly

What part of BETA don't you understand - if you are not prepared to
deal with problems then don't run BETA software.

If you are prepared to deal with problems associated with BETA
software you should have posts your statements as "I've tried to
install IE7 BETA update and I'm having problems".

Your first paragraph makes you appear to be trolling.

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This is an analogy of what happened.

You purchase brand new Steel Belted Radial tires for your car. Previously
you had non-radial tires and they were worn bald. The dealer calls and
says, come in and we will fill them with nitrogen. This will give them
longer life. So you take them in and when you pick up your vehicle, the old
tires that you just replaced are back on your car.

Now you may argue that IE is free, so that isn't a good analogy, and I'll
argue that you shouldn't pay for any Microsoft junk.



"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your
God, but what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big
trouble with Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
know why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic
updates, and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".
First what is automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to
knock Bill Gates on the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that
isn't the problem, just a prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying yes
to the update. It was an Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I
said yes, then it asked me if I accept the license, and of course I did.
The next thing I saw was that Internet Explorer V7 was being installed
( I had it installed over a month ago). Then it said it was uninstalling
a previous version and I thought, Uh Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was
asked to restart my computer and naturally I couldn't ignor that request,
becuase it kept coming back and bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing
happened. So I tried to restart and it wouldn't. Finally after a several
attempts I opened the task manager and dumped a bunch of programs then
was able to restart. After I restated, I opened up IE and went to open a
new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I asked myself? No tabs? I like
tabs, what happened? This is what happened, the update uninstalled
version 7 and installed version 6.

Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!

I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
cleaning crew and the cafeteria staff.

Toggle the menu bar by pressing and releasing ALT. It's right there in
the Edit menu where it used to be in IE6.

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"Dan" wrote in message
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Danke. I wonder why it isn't a menu item or in the help index.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
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"Dan" wrote in message
m:

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
What's a beta? I wasn't informed that version 7 is a beta. I was
available on the Microsoft site as the new version. No beta involved.

If you're talking about IE 7, it needs a search function for the WEB PAGE
CURRENT. I don't always want to search freekin' yahoo, I want to search
the
page I'm on somtimes.

Sweet, thanks.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Toggle the menu bar by pressing and releasing ALT. It's right there in the
Edit menu where it used to be in IE6.

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"Dan" wrote in message
:

Danke. I wonder why it isn't a menu item or in the help index.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Press CTRL-F.

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"Dan" wrote in message
m:

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
What's a beta? I wasn't informed that version 7 is a beta. I was
available on the Microsoft site as the new version. No beta
involved.

If you're talking about IE 7, it needs a search function for the WEB
PAGE
CURRENT. I don't always want to search freekin' yahoo, I want to
search
the
page I'm on somtimes.

Many people have explained in thread where you went wrong. Download and
install IE7 again.

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http://www.vistahelp.ca


Mark A. Sam wrote:
Kerry,

There was no Beta warning when I installed V.7. I wouldn't have
installed it. If the page wasn't the same page as I posted, then it
was similar. It was on the Microsoft homepage. But regardless, what
do I know? And why does it matter that it is a beta. The update said
it was a V7 update and it installed v6. It's a little backward. I
wasn't told it would do this, but the initial message said it was an
v7 update, like a simple update.

"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...
The page where you downloaded your previous version of IE7 was a
different page. A month ago there were clear warnings about
installing a beta product.

--
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MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Mark A. Sam wrote:
Here is the download page.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...px?mg_ID=10010

I don't see the word Beta anywhere

"Leythos" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with
Bill Gates
and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
cleaning crew
and the cafeteria staff.

let's get this in perspective:

1) You installed a BETA product
2) You complain when you are using your computer and it alerts you
that it's about to install updates while you are using your
computer 3) The update is for a BETA product
4) Your BETA test machine doesn't perform properly

What part of BETA don't you understand - if you are not prepared to
deal with problems then don't run BETA software.

If you are prepared to deal with problems associated with BETA
software you should have posts your statements as "I've tried to
install IE7 BETA update and I'm having problems".

Your first paragraph makes you appear to be trolling.

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I am seriously not interested in anyone's Internet Explorer problems, so
I fail to see your reason for crossposting this to the Outlook newsgroup

Mark A. Sam wrote:
I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to criticize
microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your God, but
what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big trouble with
Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't know
why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic updates,
and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update". First what is
automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to knock Bill Gates on
the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that isn't the problem, just a
prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying yes to the update. It was an
Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I said yes, then it asked me if
I accept the license, and of course I did. The next thing I saw was that
Internet Explorer V7 was being installed ( I had it installed over a month
ago). Then it said it was uninstalling a previous version and I thought, Uh
Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was asked to restart my computer and
naturally I couldn't ignor that request, becuase it kept coming back and
bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing happened. So I tried to restart and
it wouldn't. Finally after a several attempts I opened the task manager and
dumped a bunch of programs then was able to restart. After I restated, I
opened up IE and went to open a new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I
asked myself? No tabs? I like tabs, what happened? This is what happened,
the update uninstalled version 7 and installed version 6.

Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!

I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill Gates
and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the cleaning crew
and the cafeteria staff.

thanks for sharing, but I doubt if this is useful info for anyone


"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize
microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your God

not really, but I guess he is probably glad that you compare him as a
God.... did you forward this to him ?

, but
what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big trouble
with
Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

is that why you are using MS yourself.... and for how long are you using
Microsoft products ... if I may ask ?


A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
know
why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic updates,
and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".

yep, read it again....
1) "I got a notice that an update was ready"
2) "I didn't know why I received it"
3) "my system was set to receive Automatic updates" -- BINGO !

First what is
automatic about an update that asks me?

Please see : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

Someone out to knock Bill Gates on
the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?".

Really?, first read up on the particular function feature before you give
out (please)

But that isn't the problem, just a
prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying yes to the update. It was an
Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I said yes, then it asked me
if
I accept the license, and of course I did.

without reading it ? just click on "OK" on all boxes ever presented to you ?
-- good going ! really !

The next thing I saw was that
Internet Explorer V7 was being installed ( I had it installed over a
month
ago).

1 month ago V7 was beta, so you did not install V7, you installed V7-beta

Then it said it was uninstalling a previous version and I thought, Uh
Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was asked to restart my computer and
naturally I couldn't ignor that request, becuase it kept coming back and
bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing happened. So I tried to restart
and
it wouldn't. Finally after a several attempts I opened the task manager
and
dumped a bunch of programs then was able to restart.

next time posting you might want to give us some details on "a bunch of
programs" ?
just so genuine people on these newgroups might try to actually help
you.....


After I restated, I
opened up IE and went to open a new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I
asked myself? No tabs? I like tabs, what happened? This is what
happened,
the update uninstalled version 7 and installed version 6.

OK, that is the closest we come in this post to a problem statement, or at
least an attempt to.


Do I need to say any more?

Yes please, do say more.... the world is waiting for posts like this

I can't, becuase there is no description
suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!

I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates
and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the cleaning
crew
and the cafeteria staff.

that will solve all problems, including cancer and world hunger....

There was nothing wrong with IE7. That isn't the issue. The issue is the
update. It misrepresented what would happen. It stated that it was an
"update" for Internet Explorer 7, not a replacement.


"Leythos" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
Here is the download page.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...px?mg_ID=10010

I don't see the word Beta anywhere

Ok, so it's not beta any more, but it was when you downloaded it the
first time, so the reply I made stands.

Also, you should know enough to NOT install new software until it's been
on the street for 6 months, unless it meets a mission critical need.

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