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Old June 6th, 2010, 02:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.excel.newusers
Max
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So, get newsreader software and don't access Usenet by Web links
But that's easier said than done. Not possible in office. Even Google/groups
are barred.
Only access to MS webpages are allowed.

Actually, who is parasiting who? Isn't it Google/3rd party sites parasiting
on MS, reproducing posts on MS' hosted webpages? I heard there's a lot of
discussions in those private MS MVP ngs, but hardly any trickle of those
discussions drips into these public ngs to enlighten the rest. Again, I'm
just a simple user/responder of xl ng newsgroups via MS webpages, at the
mercy of events evolving.


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Old June 6th, 2010, 04:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.excel.newusers
L. Howard Kittle
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HI Dave,

I did what you told Don G. to do and got the eternal-september loaded
complete with password and such.

I cannot see how to access anything to do with Excel newsgroups.

I've clicked on everything on the home page and others and I don't
understand squat about what I'm doing or what I should try to do...? Been
to FAQ's and all options clickable.

I believe I read that "you will be offered Excel Newsgroups to select
from..." but if not then you have to "trick" eternal-september into offering
them...???

Any suggestions.

Regards,
Howard

"Dave Peterson" wrote in message
...
Visit:
http://www.eternal-september.org/

Click on the Online link (in the notes about registering) and that'll take
you
directly to this page:
http://www.eternal-september.org/Reg...ewsAccount.php

Register and you'll get an email to confirm that you're human(!).

Then just use
news.eternal-september.org
as your newsserver



Don Guillett wrote:

So, how do you use it?

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"Aaron" wrote in message
...
June 2, 8.00 am and everything running normal.
What's happening ?
Does anyone know ??

I read and post to the MS news groups via msnews.microsoft.com. When I
logged into Thunderbird and clicked the expand ('+' button) to retrieve
new headers, I had several "news group does not exist do you want to
unsubscribe" messages. They are definitely removing groups from *their*
server.

This Excel group seems to be carried by news.eternal-september.org, so
I
will just continue from there.

--

I am glad my Mom named me Aaron,
that is what everyone calls me.


--

Dave Peterson



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Old June 6th, 2010, 11:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.excel.newusers
Dave Peterson
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When you look at the list of newsgroups, do you see a list of about 10?
Including one named: eternal-september.where.are.all.the.newsgroups

If you see that then you haven't configured the name/password correctly -- or
you haven't refreshed that list.

Subscribe to this eternal-september.where.are.all.the.newsgroups newsgroup and
you'll see one message that describes how to get access to all the newsgroups.

If all this is true, then since you're using OE, you can rightclick on the
newsserver and choose properties.

Then on the Server tab, you can check the "this server requires me to log on"
and fill out the account name and password.

Then ok your way out out of this dialog.

Then rightclick on the server once more and choose Refresh list. After that
finishes, you should be able to subscribe to the excel newsgroups.

(I hope vbg.)

But as long as the msnews servers are still carrying the *excel* newsgroups, I'm
staying here.


"L. Howard Kittle" wrote:

HI Dave,

I did what you told Don G. to do and got the eternal-september loaded
complete with password and such.

I cannot see how to access anything to do with Excel newsgroups.

I've clicked on everything on the home page and others and I don't
understand squat about what I'm doing or what I should try to do...? Been
to FAQ's and all options clickable.

I believe I read that "you will be offered Excel Newsgroups to select
from..." but if not then you have to "trick" eternal-september into offering
them...???

Any suggestions.

Regards,
Howard

"Dave Peterson" wrote in message
...
Visit:
http://www.eternal-september.org/

Click on the Online link (in the notes about registering) and that'll take
you
directly to this page:
http://www.eternal-september.org/Reg...ewsAccount.php

Register and you'll get an email to confirm that you're human(!).

Then just use
news.eternal-september.org
as your newsserver



Don Guillett wrote:

So, how do you use it?

--
Don Guillett
Microsoft MVP Excel
SalesAid Software

"Aaron" wrote in message
...
June 2, 8.00 am and everything running normal.
What's happening ?
Does anyone know ??

I read and post to the MS news groups via msnews.microsoft.com. When I
logged into Thunderbird and clicked the expand ('+' button) to retrieve
new headers, I had several "news group does not exist do you want to
unsubscribe" messages. They are definitely removing groups from *their*
server.

This Excel group seems to be carried by news.eternal-september.org, so
I
will just continue from there.

--

I am glad my Mom named me Aaron,
that is what everyone calls me.


--

Dave Peterson


--

Dave Peterson
  #24  
Old June 6th, 2010, 12:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.excel.newusers
Stan Brown
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:58:55 +0800, Max wrote:
Actually, who is parasiting who? Isn't it Google/3rd party sites
parasiting on MS, reproducing posts on MS' hosted webpages?


No. Microsoft made the decision to inject into Usenet everything
that was posted on its Web-based forums (or certain ones). Now they
regret that, so they're "closing the newsgroups". Typical Microsoft
desire to eat their cake and have it, and when reality intrudes they
go off in a snit to hatch up something even more non-standard that
they think they'll be able to control.

There are quite a number of sites that leech off Usenet, making
copies of Usenet articles and posting them on their own Web sites
without permission, as though the articles had been posted to their
forums. I believe Microsoft was one of those, though presumably that
has now stopped just as the injection into Usenet has stopped.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
 




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