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Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template
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Word 2000 When I create a .doc file using Right Click New New Microsoft Word document from a folder on the desktop, the newly created file opens with the wrong Normal style formatting. Many of the formats (default typesize and some paragraph formatting) appear to be from an earlier version of my Normal style. Using debug.print in VBA, I verified that the attached template was Normal.dot and that its path was that of the correct folder. The attached template and path of a new document created within Word itself (with my current Normal style formatting) were exactly the same. Can the Right Click feature be updated to create a document that contains my Normal style current formatting? (And where is this feature getting my old Normal style information from?) Thanks. Jay |
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Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template
At the Start | Run line, type "regedit" without the quotes and press Enter.
Navigate to the registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.doc\Word.Document.8\ShellNew (note, I' running Word 2003 so "Word.Document.8" might be a different number value on your system). See what the data for the value "FileName" is given as. On my system, I find "winword8.doc which is located in C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates where I believe it acts as the template when I opt to create a new document in the manner you describe. Either you have a pointer to the wrong template or the template in your templates folder has a problem. Steve "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... WinXP Word 2000 When I create a .doc file using Right Click New New Microsoft Word document from a folder on the desktop, the newly created file opens with the wrong Normal style formatting. Many of the formats (default typesize and some paragraph formatting) appear to be from an earlier version of my Normal style. Using debug.print in VBA, I verified that the attached template was Normal.dot and that its path was that of the correct folder. The attached template and path of a new document created within Word itself (with my current Normal style formatting) were exactly the same. Can the Right Click feature be updated to create a document that contains my Normal style current formatting? (And where is this feature getting my old Normal style information from?) Thanks. Jay |
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Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template
My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up
with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Because that is the nature of the relationship for styles between documents and templates. You should save your windword8.doc as a template (using SaveAs from within Word) and put a link to that template on your desktop. You can then double-click on in (or right-click-New) for a new document. If you make changes in the styles of such a document and instruct it to save the changes to the template it will (to the winword.dot template, not normal.dot). For more on the different kinds of templates and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Steve: Thanks. I verified the registry entry (it's as you stated) and located my winword8.doc. When I opened winword8.doc directly from the desktop, it generated a .doc file in the "old" Normal style. I therefore went into Organizer and overwrote all the styles from Normal.dot into winword8.doc and saved it. Now right-click-generated .doc files are created with the proper Normal style. My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Thanks again. Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Steve Yandl" Date: 5/22/2004 5:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: At the Start | Run line, type "regedit" without the quotes and press Enter. Navigate to the registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.doc\Word.Document.8\ShellNew (note, I' running Word 2003 so "Word.Document.8" might be a different number value on your system). See what the data for the value "FileName" is given as. On my system, I find "winword8.doc which is located in C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates where I believe it acts as the template when I opt to create a new document in the manner you describe. Either you have a pointer to the wrong template or the template in your templates folder has a problem. Steve "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... WinXP Word 2000 When I create a .doc file using Right Click New New Microsoft Word document from a folder on the desktop, the newly created file opens with the wrong Normal style formatting. Many of the formats (default typesize and some paragraph formatting) appear to be from an earlier version of my Normal style. Using debug.print in VBA, I verified that the attached template was Normal.dot and that its path was that of the correct folder. The attached template and path of a new document created within Word itself (with my current Normal style formatting) were exactly the same. Can the Right Click feature be updated to create a document that contains my Normal style current formatting? (And where is this feature getting my old Normal style information from?) Thanks. Jay |
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Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template
Thanks.
How about this solution, to ensure consistency (and eliminate the need for updating two templates)? I copied the Start Menu's Word shortcut (which points to the program itself: "Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard") and pasted it into my C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates folder, and renamed it winword8.doc. (I named the original winword8.doc something else for the time being.) I would guess that this will force a right-click-generated .doc file to always have the current Normal style, as found in Normal.dot, not in a particular file, right? Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Charles Kenyon" Date: 5/24/2004 1:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Because that is the nature of the relationship for styles between documents and templates. You should save your windword8.doc as a template (using SaveAs from within Word) and put a link to that template on your desktop. You can then double-click on in (or right-click-New) for a new document. If you make changes in the styles of such a document and instruct it to save the changes to the template it will (to the winword.dot template, not normal.dot). For more on the different kinds of templates and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Steve: Thanks. I verified the registry entry (it's as you stated) and located my winword8.doc. When I opened winword8.doc directly from the desktop, it generated a .doc file in the "old" Normal style. I therefore went into Organizer and overwrote all the styles from Normal.dot into winword8.doc and saved it. Now right-click-generated .doc files are created with the proper Normal style. My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Thanks again. Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Steve Yandl" Date: 5/22/2004 5:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: At the Start | Run line, type "regedit" without the quotes and press Enter. Navigate to the registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.doc\Word.Document.8\ShellNew (note, I' running Word 2003 so "Word.Document.8" might be a different number value on your system). See what the data for the value "FileName" is given as. On my system, I find "winword8.doc which is located in C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates where I believe it acts as the template when I opt to create a new document in the manner you describe. Either you have a pointer to the wrong template or the template in your templates folder has a problem. Steve "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... WinXP Word 2000 When I create a .doc file using Right Click New New Microsoft Word document from a folder on the desktop, the newly created file opens with the wrong Normal style formatting. Many of the formats (default typesize and some paragraph formatting) appear to be from an earlier version of my Normal style. Using debug.print in VBA, I verified that the attached template was Normal.dot and that its path was that of the correct folder. The attached template and path of a new document created within Word itself (with my current Normal style formatting) were exactly the same. Can the Right Click feature be updated to create a document that contains my Normal style current formatting? (And where is this feature getting my old Normal style information from?) Thanks. Jay |
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Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template
I am uncertain what this will do but am fairly certain it will not do what
you want. Shortcuts are not documents or templates, they are shortcuts, that is, representations of and links to something else. I apparently came into the middle of your discussion. I never do right-click on my desktop to create a new Word document. I start my documents from within Word or using existing templates. Rule 1: Base your documents on templates, not other documents. Rule 2: Keep your styles in the templates you are using. If you use multiple templates, you will have to update multiple templates to keep the styles consistent between them. I use multiple templates but generally one template for one purpose. One letterhead template, one reports template, one memo template, on fax template etc. The styles in these different templates are different. I use documents based on Normal.dot for scratch paper and to make labels (or to make some kind of document I don't have a template to use as a pattern). Rule 3: Only one normal.dot template per user. If you are the only user on your computer and you do not run different versions of Word on that computer, there should be only one normal.dot template. For more on the different kinds of templates and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. You can make a shortcut from the normal.dot template to your desktop and use that to create new documents based on normal.dot if you want. The same is true of other templates. This takes a double-click. It is possible to have multiple templates that keep the same styles but from your questions I don't think you have the degree of Word expertise (yet) to attempt this. It isn't straightforward and bends Word's rules. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Thanks. How about this solution, to ensure consistency (and eliminate the need for updating two templates)? I copied the Start Menu's Word shortcut (which points to the program itself: "Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard") and pasted it into my C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates folder, and renamed it winword8.doc. (I named the original winword8.doc something else for the time being.) I would guess that this will force a right-click-generated .doc file to always have the current Normal style, as found in Normal.dot, not in a particular file, right? Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Charles Kenyon" Date: 5/24/2004 1:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Because that is the nature of the relationship for styles between documents and templates. You should save your windword8.doc as a template (using SaveAs from within Word) and put a link to that template on your desktop. You can then double-click on in (or right-click-New) for a new document. If you make changes in the styles of such a document and instruct it to save the changes to the template it will (to the winword.dot template, not normal.dot). For more on the different kinds of templates and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Steve: Thanks. I verified the registry entry (it's as you stated) and located my winword8.doc. When I opened winword8.doc directly from the desktop, it generated a ..doc file in the "old" Normal style. I therefore went into Organizer and overwrote all the styles from Normal.dot into winword8.doc and saved it. Now right-click-generated .doc files are created with the proper Normal style. My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Thanks again. Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Steve Yandl" Date: 5/22/2004 5:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: At the Start | Run line, type "regedit" without the quotes and press Enter. Navigate to the registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.doc\Word.Document.8\ShellNew (note, I' running Word 2003 so "Word.Document.8" might be a different number value on your system). See what the data for the value "FileName" is given as. On my system, I find "winword8.doc which is located in C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates where I believe it acts as the template when I opt to create a new document in the manner you describe. Either you have a pointer to the wrong template or the template in your templates folder has a problem. Steve "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... WinXP Word 2000 When I create a .doc file using Right Click New New Microsoft Word document from a folder on the desktop, the newly created file opens with the wrong Normal style formatting. Many of the formats (default typesize and some paragraph formatting) appear to be from an earlier version of my Normal style. Using debug.print in VBA, I verified that the attached template was Normal.dot and that its path was that of the correct folder. The attached template and path of a new document created within Word itself (with my current Normal style formatting) were exactly the same. Can the Right Click feature be updated to create a document that contains my Normal style current formatting? (And where is this feature getting my old Normal style information from?) Thanks. Jay |
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Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template
Charles:
So far, my solution seems to work fine. For example, I opened a fresh document (not using right-click), changed the Normal style to blue font, and "Added to template" (Normal.dot) this new Normal style. Now, when I generate a document with right-click, it has this new Normal style, so the contrived winword8.doc (actually a link) must be working. Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Charles Kenyon" Date: 5/24/2004 6:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: I am uncertain what this will do but am fairly certain it will not do what you want. Shortcuts are not documents or templates, they are shortcuts, that is, representations of and links to something else. I apparently came into the middle of your discussion. I never do right-click on my desktop to create a new Word document. I start my documents from within Word or using existing templates. Rule 1: Base your documents on templates, not other documents. Rule 2: Keep your styles in the templates you are using. If you use multiple templates, you will have to update multiple templates to keep the styles consistent between them. I use multiple templates but generally one template for one purpose. One letterhead template, one reports template, one memo template, on fax template etc. The styles in these different templates are different. I use documents based on Normal.dot for scratch paper and to make labels (or to make some kind of document I don't have a template to use as a pattern). Rule 3: Only one normal.dot template per user. If you are the only user on your computer and you do not run different versions of Word on that computer, there should be only one normal.dot template. For more on the different kinds of templates and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. You can make a shortcut from the normal.dot template to your desktop and use that to create new documents based on normal.dot if you want. The same is true of other templates. This takes a double-click. It is possible to have multiple templates that keep the same styles but from your questions I don't think you have the degree of Word expertise (yet) to attempt this. It isn't straightforward and bends Word's rules. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Thanks. How about this solution, to ensure consistency (and eliminate the need for updating two templates)? I copied the Start Menu's Word shortcut (which points to the program itself: "Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard") and pasted it into my C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates folder, and renamed it winword8.doc. (I named the original winword8.doc something else for the time being.) I would guess that this will force a right-click-generated .doc file to always have the current Normal style, as found in Normal.dot, not in a particular file, right? Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Charles Kenyon" Date: 5/24/2004 1:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Because that is the nature of the relationship for styles between documents and templates. You should save your windword8.doc as a template (using SaveAs from within Word) and put a link to that template on your desktop. You can then double-click on in (or right-click-New) for a new document. If you make changes in the styles of such a document and instruct it to save the changes to the template it will (to the winword.dot template, not normal.dot). For more on the different kinds of templates and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Steve: Thanks. I verified the registry entry (it's as you stated) and located my winword8.doc. When I opened winword8.doc directly from the desktop, it generated a .doc file in the "old" Normal style. I therefore went into Organizer and overwrote all the styles from Normal.dot into winword8.doc and saved it. Now right-click-generated .doc files are created with the proper Normal style. My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Thanks again. Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Steve Yandl" Date: 5/22/2004 5:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: At the Start | Run line, type "regedit" without the quotes and press Enter. Navigate to the registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.doc\Word.Document.8\ShellNew (note, I' running Word 2003 so "Word.Document.8" might be a different number value on your system). See what the data for the value "FileName" is given as. On my system, I find "winword8.doc which is located in C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates where I believe it acts as the template when I opt to create a new document in the manner you describe. Either you have a pointer to the wrong template or the template in your templates folder has a problem. Steve "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... WinXP Word 2000 When I create a .doc file using Right Click New New Microsoft Word document from a folder on the desktop, the newly created file opens with the wrong Normal style formatting. Many of the formats (default typesize and some paragraph formatting) appear to be from an earlier version of my Normal style. Using debug.print in VBA, I verified that the attached template was Normal.dot and that its path was that of the correct folder. The attached template and path of a new document created within Word itself (with my current Normal style formatting) were exactly the same. Can the Right Click feature be updated to create a document that contains my Normal style current formatting? (And where is this feature getting my old Normal style information from?) Thanks. Jay |
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Good luck.
"HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Charles: So far, my solution seems to work fine. For example, I opened a fresh document (not using right-click), changed the Normal style to blue font, and "Added to template" (Normal.dot) this new Normal style. Now, when I generate a document with right-click, it has this new Normal style, so the contrived winword8.doc (actually a link) must be working. Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Charles Kenyon" Date: 5/24/2004 6:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: I am uncertain what this will do but am fairly certain it will not do what you want. Shortcuts are not documents or templates, they are shortcuts, that is, representations of and links to something else. I apparently came into the middle of your discussion. I never do right-click on my desktop to create a new Word document. I start my documents from within Word or using existing templates. Rule 1: Base your documents on templates, not other documents. Rule 2: Keep your styles in the templates you are using. If you use multiple templates, you will have to update multiple templates to keep the styles consistent between them. I use multiple templates but generally one template for one purpose. One letterhead template, one reports template, one memo template, on fax template etc. The styles in these different templates are different. I use documents based on Normal.dot for scratch paper and to make labels (or to make some kind of document I don't have a template to use as a pattern). Rule 3: Only one normal.dot template per user. If you are the only user on your computer and you do not run different versions of Word on that computer, there should be only one normal.dot template. For more on the different kinds of templates and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. You can make a shortcut from the normal.dot template to your desktop and use that to create new documents based on normal.dot if you want. The same is true of other templates. This takes a double-click. It is possible to have multiple templates that keep the same styles but from your questions I don't think you have the degree of Word expertise (yet) to attempt this. It isn't straightforward and bends Word's rules. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Thanks. How about this solution, to ensure consistency (and eliminate the need for updating two templates)? I copied the Start Menu's Word shortcut (which points to the program itself: "Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Standard") and pasted it into my C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates folder, and renamed it winword8.doc. (I named the original winword8.doc something else for the time being.) I would guess that this will force a right-click-generated .doc file to always have the current Normal style, as found in Normal.dot, not in a particular file, right? Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Charles Kenyon" Date: 5/24/2004 1:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Because that is the nature of the relationship for styles between documents and templates. You should save your windword8.doc as a template (using SaveAs from within Word) and put a link to that template on your desktop. You can then double-click on in (or right-click-New) for a new document. If you make changes in the styles of such a document and instruct it to save the changes to the template it will (to the winword.dot template, not normal.dot). For more on the different kinds of templates and locations of templates folders see http://addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... Steve: Thanks. I verified the registry entry (it's as you stated) and located my winword8.doc. When I opened winword8.doc directly from the desktop, it generated a .doc file in the "old" Normal style. I therefore went into Organizer and overwrote all the styles from Normal.dot into winword8.doc and saved it. Now right-click-generated .doc files are created with the proper Normal style. My question now is: Do you have any idea why winword8.doc does not keep up with (or at least in this case, did not keep up with) changes to my Normal.dot? Thanks again. Jay Subject: Right-click-created .doc file has wrong Normal template From: "Steve Yandl" Date: 5/22/2004 5:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: At the Start | Run line, type "regedit" without the quotes and press Enter. Navigate to the registry key HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.doc\Word.Document.8\ShellNew (note, I' running Word 2003 so "Word.Document.8" might be a different number value on your system). See what the data for the value "FileName" is given as. On my system, I find "winword8.doc which is located in C:\Documents and Settings\{your ID}\Templates where I believe it acts as the template when I opt to create a new document in the manner you describe. Either you have a pointer to the wrong template or the template in your templates folder has a problem. Steve "HONYAKUKA" wrote in message ... WinXP Word 2000 When I create a .doc file using Right Click New New Microsoft Word document from a folder on the desktop, the newly created file opens with the wrong Normal style formatting. Many of the formats (default typesize and some paragraph formatting) appear to be from an earlier version of my Normal style. Using debug.print in VBA, I verified that the attached template was Normal.dot and that its path was that of the correct folder. The attached template and path of a new document created within Word itself (with my current Normal style formatting) were exactly the same. Can the Right Click feature be updated to create a document that contains my Normal style current formatting? (And where is this feature getting my old Normal style information from?) Thanks. Jay |
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