Office 2007 Ribbons

"Jeff R" Jeff wrote in message
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Why did i buy Word 2007? Good question. I bought it because i thought
Microsoft would not throw out user control but would increase it.

So why not use the TRIAL version first?

Yep, hindsight is 20/20. I have a small business. My computer crashed. I
needed something NOW. No one's fault that I was taken by surprise and needed
to be up and running in minimum amount of time. My own fault for trusting
Microsoft. Never again.
Jeff R

"Gordon" wrote:

"Jeff R" Jeff wrote in message
...
Why did i buy Word 2007? Good question. I bought it because i thought
Microsoft would not throw out user control but would increase it.

So why not use the TRIAL version first?

Hi Jeff,

If it's a retail Office 2007 product you may may want to check the link below to see if you may be able to get a refund on Office
2007 from Microsoft
http://microsoft.com/mscorp/productrefund/refund.mspx

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"Jeff R" wrote in message ...
Yep, hindsight is 20/20. I have a small business. My computer crashed. I
needed something NOW. No one's fault that I was taken by surprise and needed
to be up and running in minimum amount of time. My own fault for trusting
Microsoft. Never again.
Jeff R
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

"Required to use MS products at work"

That sums up the problem - I HAVE to use Office at work. Fortunately, our IT
department is holding off on upgrading to Office 2007 (as well as Vista and
especially any post-2003 server products).

There are probably millions of people working at jobs where Office is
installed and required to be used by their employer. I use WordPerfect at
home, a 10-yr-old version which is still better than any version of Word I've
ever had to use - nothing beats the convenience of revealing codes and
dragging that pesky font or formatting change button out of your document to
fix it.

Most people do pretty basic stuff with Word or Excel and the 97 version will
handle anything they require. That doesn't do much for Microsoft's sales, and
they've found that tossing in new features doesn't help sales very much, so
they are trying a new interface to boost their profit margins.

Unfortunately for Microsoft, the average office worker doesn't want to waste
their time learning a new interface to do the same old documents they've been
doing for years, nor do their managers want to waste time and money on
training for new interfaces. Microsoft would have fared better if they had
tossed in an emoticon menu for e-mail editing and a dozen "wacky new fonts"
for next-gen users.

The bottom line is: "I didn't purchase it, my unsuspecting employer did!"

Kevin

note - I work in an IT department and our boss did buy a few copies for IT
to test and play with. The final verdict, not going to deploy it until
service pack 3, IFF Microsoft sees the light and adds an option for classic
menus. If we have to learn something new to stay current, might as well make
it Open Office and save the company some cash.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

And I wonder why people purchase Office 2007 after reading all about the "horrid" ribbon and then come here to complain loudly, rather than use the version that works for them? I should know better by now, I guess.

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After furious head scratching, Jeff R asked:

| I know I'm on here a year after you posted, but I HATE Word 2007. I
| hate that the ribbons aren't customizable or that I have to do
| serious work-arounds or buy some sort of 3rd party product to change
| them. If I want decent-sized screen buttons (such as n the ribbons),
| then my screen is littered with all sorts of commands that I don't
| want, never use, or use exceedingly rarely, while the cammands that I
| use all the time are buried or I have to put them on the Quick bar --
| so that they are not with ribbon commands with which I would normally
| group them. For example, I frequently use Character Scaling, which i
| normally set next to the other text editing commands (like Bold,
| Italics, etc.). But I can't do that because I can't modify the
| useless ribbon. So my option is to make my own tiny Quick menu and
| always minimize the ribbons. Stupid stupid stupid. I like that
| Microsoft in their tutorial for Word 2007 waste my time by pointing
| out that I am free to choose between 3 color schemes for my Word
| windows.
| The bottom line is that I have this new super-charged product, and
| mainly I have to waste time finding work-arounds because it can't do
| what the older version did. I really really hate having to waste time
| because the design team didn't consider the way I use a computer.
| Jeff R -- Winter Haven, FL
|
| "RickB" wrote:
|
|| With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is
|| there a way to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just
|| spent 2 hours looking in PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used
|| several times a day in 2003. I understand the Ribbons to be for the
|| 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the 20%.
||
|| thanks,
|| RickB

Milly, unfortunately many of us have 2007 forced upon us by our IT
department. I am lucky in that due to some specific software requirements I
retain administrative privelages and have been able to dual-install Office
2k3, but most of my coworkers are out of luck in that regard. The loss of
productivity around here during the transition has been painful, to say the
least.

Jim

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

And I wonder why people purchase Office 2007 after reading all about the "horrid" ribbon and then come here to complain loudly, rather than use the version that works for them? I should know better by now, I guess.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Jeff R asked:

| I know I'm on here a year after you posted, but I HATE Word 2007. I
| hate that the ribbons aren't customizable or that I have to do
| serious work-arounds or buy some sort of 3rd party product to change
| them. If I want decent-sized screen buttons (such as n the ribbons),
| then my screen is littered with all sorts of commands that I don't
| want, never use, or use exceedingly rarely, while the cammands that I
| use all the time are buried or I have to put them on the Quick bar --
| so that they are not with ribbon commands with which I would normally
| group them. For example, I frequently use Character Scaling, which i
| normally set next to the other text editing commands (like Bold,
| Italics, etc.). But I can't do that because I can't modify the
| useless ribbon. So my option is to make my own tiny Quick menu and
| always minimize the ribbons. Stupid stupid stupid. I like that
| Microsoft in their tutorial for Word 2007 waste my time by pointing
| out that I am free to choose between 3 color schemes for my Word
| windows.
| The bottom line is that I have this new super-charged product, and
| mainly I have to waste time finding work-arounds because it can't do
| what the older version did. I really really hate having to waste time
| because the design team didn't consider the way I use a computer.
| Jeff R -- Winter Haven, FL
|
| "RickB" wrote:
|
|| With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is
|| there a way to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just
|| spent 2 hours looking in PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used
|| several times a day in 2003. I understand the Ribbons to be for the
|| 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the 20%.
||
|| thanks,
|| RickB

I can't stand this ribbon (excel for dummies and the greater good version) I
can't even edit a bottom image or assign a macro to a button using a simple
right click anymore. This was a total waste of my money and time. Why are we
being forced fed this worthless ribbon stuff when all I need is to get back
to having Excel my way as I paid for? I want my classic customizable tool
bars and functions back so I can get back to work. Let the common folks
wonder aimlessly in the pretty ribbons.

Kurt

"RickB" wrote:

With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is there a way
to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just spent 2 hours looking in
PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used several times a day in 2003. I
understand the Ribbons to be for the 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the
20%.

thanks,
RickB

Try this link for an Add-On:

http://dw.com.com/redir?edId=3&siteId=4&oId=3000-18483_4-10637184&ontId=18483_4&spi=ca8ce47486251af8383c1da 88963710e&lop=link&tag=tdw_dltext&ltype=dl_elite_d lnow&pid=11110773&mfgId=6254316&merId=6254316&pgui d=m6kYFwoPjAIAADLhMj0AAABs&destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fdo wnload.cnet.com%2F3001-18483_4-10637184.html%3Fspi%3Dca8ce47486251af8383c1da88963 710e
OR
http://download.cnet.com/Classic-Menu-for-Office-2007/3000-18483_4-10637184.html

hth


Kurt wrote:

I can't stand this ribbon (excel for dummies and the greater good version) I
can't even edit a bottom image or assign a macro to a button using a simple
right click anymore. This was a total waste of my money and time. Why are we
being forced fed this worthless ribbon stuff when all I need is to get back
to having Excel my way as I paid for? I want my classic customizable tool
bars and functions back so I can get back to work. Let the common folks
wonder aimlessly in the pretty ribbons.

Kurt

"RickB" wrote:



With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is there a way
to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just spent 2 hours looking in
PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used several times a day in 2003. I
understand the Ribbons to be for the 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the
20%.

thanks,
RickB

Just installed the add in pack for the old menu system in office 2007, it is
great, Goodbye to the Ribbon. My productivty has doubled.

Link is below

http://download.cnet.com/3001-18483_...2f609e00aecef9

"Kurt" wrote:

I can't stand this ribbon (excel for dummies and the greater good version) I
can't even edit a bottom image or assign a macro to a button using a simple
right click anymore. This was a total waste of my money and time. Why are we
being forced fed this worthless ribbon stuff when all I need is to get back
to having Excel my way as I paid for? I want my classic customizable tool
bars and functions back so I can get back to work. Let the common folks
wonder aimlessly in the pretty ribbons.

Kurt

"RickB" wrote:

With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is there a way
to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just spent 2 hours looking in
PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used several times a day in 2003. I
understand the Ribbons to be for the 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the
20%.

thanks,
RickB

You can download free Office (Classic) menu addins from below site.

http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive.com/MenuAddins.aspx


For Excel with new features of Excel-2007:
http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive....ssic_Menu.aspx



Regards,
Shailesh Shah
http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive.com/
If You Can't Excel with Talent, Triumph with Effort.

Free Addins Office Menu-2003 for Office-2007
http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive.com/MenuAddins.aspx

Free Exshail Classic Menu for Excel-2007
http://shahshaileshs.web.officelive....ssic_Menu.aspx







"SES77" wrote in message
...
Just installed the add in pack for the old menu system in office 2007, it
is
great, Goodbye to the Ribbon. My productivty has doubled.

Link is below

http://download.cnet.com/3001-18483_...2f609e00aecef9

"Kurt" wrote:

I can't stand this ribbon (excel for dummies and the greater good
version) I
can't even edit a bottom image or assign a macro to a button using a
simple
right click anymore. This was a total waste of my money and time. Why are
we
being forced fed this worthless ribbon stuff when all I need is to get
back
to having Excel my way as I paid for? I want my classic customizable tool
bars and functions back so I can get back to work. Let the common folks
wonder aimlessly in the pretty ribbons.

Kurt

"RickB" wrote:

With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is there a
way
to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just spent 2 hours
looking in
PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used several times a day in 2003. I
understand the Ribbons to be for the 80% people. Problem is, I'm one
of the
20%.

thanks,
RickB

Going back to the old 97-2003 style menus decreases mine. YMMV.

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Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
ALWAYS post your Outlook version.
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After furious head scratching, SES77 asked:

| Just installed the add in pack for the old menu system in office
| 2007, it is great, Goodbye to the Ribbon. My productivty has doubled.
|
| Link is below
|
|
http://download.cnet.com/3001-18483_...2f609e00aecef9
|
| "Kurt" wrote:
|
|| I can't stand this ribbon (excel for dummies and the greater good
|| version) I can't even edit a bottom image or assign a macro to a
|| button using a simple right click anymore. This was a total waste of
|| my money and time. Why are we being forced fed this worthless ribbon
|| stuff when all I need is to get back to having Excel my way as I
|| paid for? I want my classic customizable tool bars and functions
|| back so I can get back to work. Let the common folks wonder
|| aimlessly in the pretty ribbons.
||
|| Kurt
||
|| "RickB" wrote:
||
||| With all due respect to the new Office 2007 "Ribbon" menues, is
||| there a way to show "classic" toolbars like Office 2003? I just
||| spent 2 hours looking in PowerPoint 2007 for a feature I used
||| several times a day in 2003. I understand the Ribbons to be for
||| the 80% people. Problem is, I'm one of the 20%.
|||
||| thanks,
||| RickB